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Cup o Joe - A Metals Podcast

Cup o Joe - A Metals Podcast

Hosted by Ryerson

Episodes

60

Latest episode

Aug 2026

Language

EN

About the show

Welcome to Cup o’ Joe, your go-to podcast for a fun and informative look at the dynamic world of metals! In each episode, we bring the latest factors influencing the price and availability of metals, led by the Director of Risk Management and Commodities Hedging at Ryerson, Nick Webb, and hosted by Mike Carrozzo.

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August 13, 2026Episode 5916 min

The AI Boom Has a Metals Problem

In this episode of Cup O’ Joe, Mike and Nick look at what the rapid buildout of AI infrastructure and data centers means for the metals supply chain. These projects can require huge quantities of steel, aluminum, stainless and copper—and that demand can emerge quickly, creating challenges for availability and sourcing.The conversation explores how hyperscale data center investment is becoming a meaningful new source of metals demand, why the size and speed of these projects can catch the supply chain off guard, and what happens when that demand collides with markets that are already tight.In this episode:• Just how much metal goes into building data centers• Why AI infrastructure is creating new demand for steel, aluminum, stainless and copper• How massive projects can seemingly appear overnight and disrupt availability• Why the metals supply chain may struggle to respond quickly to new AI-driven demand• What the continued data center buildout could mean for metals buyersThe bottom line: The infrastructure behind AI is physical—and building it requires a lot of metal. As investment accelerates, data centers are becoming a demand force the metals industry can’t ignore.

August 12, 2026Episode 6021 min

Melt vs. Smelt: Why Your Metal’s Origin Matters Even More Today

Where was your aluminum made? It sounds like a simple question—but the answer depends on what you mean by “made.”In this episode of Cup O’ Joe, Angie Gomez joins Mike and Nick to break down the important differences between where aluminum is smelted, melted and manufactured—and why those distinctions are becoming increasingly important for metals buyers.The conversation follows aluminum from raw material to finished product and explains why a product manufactured domestically may still contain aluminum that was originally smelted somewhere else. With tariffs, trade policy and sourcing requirements putting greater scrutiny on metal origin, knowing where material comes from—and being able to trace it through the supply chain—matters more than ever.Angie also discusses the challenges created by limited domestic primary aluminum production and why buyers serving government, defense and other origin-sensitive applications need to pay particularly close attention to documentation and traceability.The bottom line: “Made in the USA” doesn’t necessarily tell you where the metal began its journey. Understanding the difference between melt, smelt and manufacture can be critical when sourcing aluminum in today’s market.

August 11, 2026Episode 5816 min

Does Scrap Still Matter? The New Math Behind Steel Prices

Scrap prices have historically been one of the key signals for where steel prices are headed. But right now, that relationship isn’t behaving the way many buyers would expect.In this episode of Cup O’ Joe, Mike and Nick dig into the new math behind steel pricing. While scrap has remained relatively stable, finished steel prices continue to move higher as tariffs, tight domestic supply and limited mill availability exert more influence on the market.The conversation explores why the traditional correlation between scrap and steel has weakened, how tariffs may be creating a new floor under domestic pricing, and why some mills are limiting—or even declining to quote—new spot business.Mike and Nick also look at the contrast between carbon steel and stainless, where market conditions remain comparatively balanced.The big question: If scrap is no longer driving the market the way it once did, what should steel buyers be watching instead?

August 10, 2026Episode 5722 min

Is AI Boom Masking Manufacturing Weakness?

Manufacturing indicators are showing signs of strength—but is AI making the picture look better than it really is?In this episode Mike and Nick look beneath the headline manufacturing numbers and examine the outsized role AI and data center investment is playing in the economy.With billions pouring into AI infrastructure and hyperscale data centers, capital spending is booming in one corner of the market. Outside of AI, however, the picture is considerably softer. So how much of today’s manufacturing momentum is being driven by a concentrated wave of AI investment—and what happens if that spending slows?Mike and Nick discuss the disconnect between AI-related and non-AI capital spending, what current manufacturing indicators are really telling us, and why the unprecedented data center buildout could be obscuring weakness elsewhere in the industrial economy.

July 13, 2026Episode 564 min

Special Episode: USMCA Update: What It Could Mean for Steel & Aluminum

Could the future of USMCA keep steel and aluminum tariffs in place? In this excerpt from Cup o' Joe, Nick Webb discusses the latest trade developments, what they could mean for metal pricing, and why buyers should pay attention to what's happening next.

July 9, 2026Episode 5510 min

The Copper Correction and Other Listener Questions Answered_mixdown.mp3

Copper, nickel, stainless steel, and audience questions wrap up this month's Cup O' Joe. Nick and Mike discuss what's happening across several key commodity markets, answer viewer questions, and share what they're watching as the metals market heads into the second half of 2026.From copper demand and nickel pricing to stainless trends and the broader manufacturing outlook, this episode covers the topics every industrial buyer should keep an eye on.Topics covered: Copper  Nickel  Stainless steel  Manufacturing  Metals outlook  Audience Q&A

July 8, 2026Episode 5416 min

Trump's New Tariffs: What Metal Buyers Need to Know

Tariffs are back in the spotlight—and they're once again reshaping the metals market.In this episode, Nick and Mike discuss the latest tariff announcements, how they could impact steel and aluminum pricing, and what manufacturers should be watching as trade policy continues to evolve.Whether you source domestically or internationally, this conversation provides valuable context for navigating today's rapidly changing marketplace.Topics covered: Steel tariffs  Aluminum tariffs  Trade policy  Imports  Manufacturing  Market outlook

July 7, 2026Episode 5313 min

Manufacturing Is Still Growing... So Why Are Metals Getting Cheaper?

Manufacturing activity continues to expand, yet several metal prices have started moving lower. So what's really happening?Nick and Mike explore the latest PMI data, freight trends, inflation, global supply chains, and why today's metals market isn't following the traditional playbook. If you've been wondering whether manufacturing is slowing—or simply becoming more balanced—this conversation breaks it all down.Topics covered: Manufacturing PMI  Industrial economy  Inflation  Freight  Supply chains  Steel & aluminum demand

July 6, 2026Episode 5215 min

The Great Reset? Why Aluminum Just Had Its Biggest Sell-Off Since 2008

After months of record-breaking prices, aluminum has suddenly reversed course. In this episode of Cup O' Joe, Nick explains what's driving the largest monthly decline in aluminum prices since the 2008 financial crisis—and whether buyers should expect the trend to continue.Nick and Mike discuss the factors behind the correction, how tariffs and imports are influencing the market, and what manufacturers should be watching as the second half of the year unfolds.Topics covered: Aluminum prices  Midwest Premium  Tariffs  Supply & demand  Manufacturing outlook  Metals market trends

July 3, 2026Episode 5118 min

Special Episode: The Mount Rushmores of American Metal

In celebration of America's 250th birthday, Mike and Nick put a fun twist on one of the country's most iconic traditions: creating their own Mount Rushmores of American metal landmarks.From engineering marvels like the Gateway Arch, Golden Gate Bridge, and Empire State Building to unexpected choices such as Cloud Gate ("The Bean"), the Brooklyn Bridge, the original Chicago Ferris Wheel, the Space Needle, and even the Hoover Dam, they each make the case for the four landmarks they believe best represent the impact of steel and metal on America's history.Along the way, they share fascinating facts about the engineering, materials, and construction behind each landmark, compare the enormous amount of metal used in these structures to today's AI data centers, and invite viewers to debate their own picks in search of the ultimate Mount Rushmore of American Metal.It's part history lesson, part friendly debate, and a celebration of the metal that helped build America.

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