Compliance into the Weeds

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What happens when two compliance aficionados get together to talk all things compliance, risk management and ERM? You get Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance and Matt Kelly, the Coolest Guy in Compliance, going into the weeds of a topic each week. Each week, you can take a deep dive with two of the top writers, thinkers and prognosticators in compliance. 

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August 12, 202628 min

Ted Lasso, Culture and Compliance

The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly celebrate the return of Ted Lasso for Season 4.   Tom and Matt begin with why Ted Lasso resonates with compliance officers as a study of workplace dynamics, leadership, and building a culture of trust. They highlight how Ted focuses on coaching people and shaping club-wide culture through “thousands of imperceptible moments,” culminating in “total football,” where shared expectations and mutual support enable improvisation and performance. They connect this to compliance goals of embedding ethics so employees can handle new situations on the fly, and to Jim Collins’ “level five” leadership and humility, illustrated by Ted renaming Trent Crimm’s book from “The Ted Lasso Way” to “The Richmond Way.” They also link the show to the military OODA loop (observe, orient, decide, act) as a model for empowered decision-making within clear objectives and boundaries, and preview Season 4’s shift to Ted coaching a women’s team. Key Highlights ·      Ted Lasso Returns Season Four ·      Culture and Trust at Richmond ·      Total Football and Compliance ·      The Richmond Way Leadership Lesson ·      Level Five Humility ·      OODA Loop Meets Compliance  Resources Matt in Radical Compliance Tom   Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn  A multi-award winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of a Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcast and a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, Communicator and w3 Award, all for podcast excellence.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

August 5, 202626 min

FinCEN’s $125MM UBS AML Order: A Culture and Resourcing Failure

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a newly issued FinCEN consent order sanctioning UBS Financial Services, the U.S. broker-dealer subsidiary of UBS. It is a $125 million penalty, the largest FinCEN fine against a broker-dealer, for extensive anti-money laundering failures. They highlight weak transaction monitoring and suspicious activity reporting (SAR) processes, poor customer due diligence, inadequate wire-transfer data collection, and data governance gaps that led to under-reporting and hindered FinCEN’s ability to build a complete money-laundering picture. The order notes UBS failed to monitor more than 50,000 foreign-currency wires totaling over $10 billion and did not disclose ongoing deficiencies discovered after a 2018 $14 million FinCEN action requiring fixes by 2021, with problems traceable back to 2004 and not addressed until 2023. They frame the matter as a tone-at-the-top and resourcing failure, compare it to other enforcement actions (including a recent SEC fine against Merrill Lynch), and suggest a future deeper dive after reviewing the full order. Key highlights: What UBS Got Wrong Scale Of The Failures Board Oversight and Resourcing Data Governance Breakdown SARs, Metrics, and AI Talk Takeaways and Next Steps Resources: ⁠USB Consent Order⁠  Tom   ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠ ⁠Twitter⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠ A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a ⁠Top 10 Business Law Podcast⁠, and ⁠a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast⁠. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, Communicator, and W3 Award, all for podcast excellence.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 29, 202626 min

Scoular Company FCPA Settlement: Cartel Links, Border Trade Risks, and Compliance Lessons

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the recent FCPA resolution with the Scoular Company. Both Tom and Matt have blogged on this matter, so check out the Resources link below for additional discussions. The recent FCPA enforcement action against Scoular Company involved a $10.2 million payment and a three-year deferred prosecution agreement over bribes by third-party customs brokers to Mexican border officials to expedite cross-border shipments. DOJ emphasized alleged cartel connections, including a strong statement from the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas, which raised questions about expanded local U.S. attorney involvement and how cartel or potential FTO designations could heighten trade and compliance risks. The company received no voluntary self-disclosure credit but got a 25% discount, with remediation cited (including dropping brokers and strengthening tone at the top). They highlight off-channel WhatsApp use, the lack of released key documents (DPA, statement of facts, criminal information), and practical compliance takeaways on third-party oversight, data analytics, and risk assessments. Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom in FCPA Compliance and Ethics Blog Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 15, 202628 min

The Slaughter Ruling, Regulatory Volatility and a Healthcare Compliance Fraud Case

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the June 29 Supreme Court decision in Trump v. Slaughter. This decision upheld the president’s power to fire independent agency commissioners at will (with a carve-out for the Federal Reserve), overturning long-standing protections from Humphrey’s Executor. Kelly argues the ruling will politicize and degrade regulatory agencies, deter qualified minority-party commissioners, increase rulemaking volatility, and shift power away from Congress toward courts as rules are challenged. As an example, they cite the SEC’s proposal to allow semi-annual rather than quarterly reporting, which drew about 80,000 comments, with roughly 99% opposed, yet they predict it may proceed and later be reversed, creating compliance burdens. They then cover Georgia author Jean Wilson, sentenced to 10 years for a $66 million Medicare fraud scheme while writing healthcare compliance books. Key highlights: The Slaughter Ruling Regulatory Volatility Ahead Who Will Serve as Commissioners Fed Carve-out and Court Power Compliance Impact and No Easy Answers Healthcare Compliance Fraud Story (Or is it from The Onion?)  Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 1, 202626 min

Survey Finds Widespread Retaliation Against Compliance Officers

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the recently released Radical Compliance, Case IQ, and Compliance Week-sponsored survey of more than 325 compliance professionals quantifying retaliation against compliance officers. Matt reports that 70% say they have suffered retaliation (79% including those unsure), 67% experienced it more than once, and women report slightly higher rates than men. Common retaliation includes exclusion from meetings (64%), being badmouthed (59.5%), and unwanted role changes (49%), while 28% report being fired. Fear is significant: 36% are uncomfortable raising concerns at their current employer, and 48% have been stopped from doing so at some point. Among those reporting retaliation to management, the responses were poor: 53% saw no action, 21% saw investigations without a remedy, and only 4% felt management supported them. Few go to regulators or sue, though two-thirds of the small group who sued after firing reported satisfactory outcomes. They suggest structural protections such as disclosure of CCO departures, contract/termination safeguards like those in Indian banking rules, and updates to DOJ guidance. Key highlights: Headline Findings Key Stats Breakdown Types of Retaliation Career Impact Stories Protection Ideas Human Toll and Caveats Resources Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

June 24, 202627 min

Bosch and the Foreign Direct Product Rule: Lessons from the Export Controls and NSD Settlement

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the recent Bosch export controls enforcement action involving two German subsidiaries that sold about $72 million in advanced microsensors and software to Huawei from 2020 to late 2024 Their actions violate U.S. export controls tied to the Foreign Direct Product Rule and 2020 “footnote one” restrictions. Although Bosch voluntarily self-disclosed, cooperated, remediated, disgorged profits, and received a DOJ criminal Declination, BIS imposed a $36.1 million civil penalty, citing fundamental compliance failures: an understaffed and underqualified export controls function, confusion between the de minimis rule and the foreign direct product rule (which has no de minimis exception), and mishandling repeated external warnings from business partners and suppliers. They highlight internal control and communication breakdowns (including external signals) and the need to build specialized export/sanctions compliance capacity, noting BIS issued a compliance framework in 2020 and offers training. Key highlights: Bosch case overview Understaffed compliance fallout Ignored partner warnings Declination and remediation COSO signals and controls Building export compliance muscle Resources Matt in Radical Compliance Tom in the FCPA Compliance Blog: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, and Part 5 posts on Thursday, June 25. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

June 17, 202620 min

OFAC’s Warning Shot: FTI Consulting Fined for Indirect Dealings with Sanctioned Bank

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a recent OFAC enforcement action fining FTI Consulting $1.05 million for a sanctions violation involving indirect dealings with Russia’s state-owned VTB Bank. FTI provided economic analysis for VTB in litigation, but, knowing VTB was sanctioned, used a law firm as an intermediary to invoice and receive payment, which OFAC said does not avoid liability because prohibitions apply to indirect transactions as well as direct ones. OFAC doubled the base penalty of $525,000 explicitly to promote future compliance by similarly situated companies, signaling strong disapproval of “middleman” structures. The case also involved unpaid invoices that became an impermissible extension of credit to a sanctioned entity, highlighting the need for rigorous contract and payment-term review beyond basic sanctions screening and for dedicated sanctions expertise. Key highlights: Introducing the OFAC Case Middleman Billing Scheme Why Screening Misses Indirect Risk Did Compliance Approve It? OFAC Expectations and Capability Penalty Doubled Warning Shot Unpaid Invoices as Credit Extension Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred the Davey, Communicator, and W3 Awards, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

June 3, 202623 min

Why the Compliance Job Market Feels Frozen

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it in greater depth. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss a recent slowdown in compliance and internal audit hiring, with more layoffs and fewer job openings over the last several months. Matt attributes the “frozen” market to broader economic uncertainty, tariffs, the war in Iran, which is driving higher energy costs, and erratic regulatory enforcement, all of which, combined with executives’ indecision about AI’s costs and impact, lead companies and employees to avoid change. They note structural competition at senior levels due to a larger, more experienced talent pool and the limited number of top roles, while acknowledging opportunities in compliance-adjacent paths such as HR, legal, governance, and integrity functions, depending on experience and credentials. Matt suggests focusing on interpersonal and cross-functional skills AI can’t replace and highlights continued demand in trade compliance, whistleblowers, and anti-fraud/False Claims Act work. Key highlights: Compliance Job Market Shift Why Hiring Feels Frozen AI and Executive Uncertainty Talent Supply and Senior Roles Career Moves and Branding Where Hiring Still Happens Resources: Matt in Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 27, 202623 min

An SEC Rollback and a Tribute to Barney Frank

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss SEC Chair Paul Atkins’ proposals to overhaul filer categories and sharply reduce corporate reporting and governance obligations, including SOX 404B internal control testing and Dodd-Frank say-on-pay votes, alongside a companion proposal to allow semi-annual instead of quarterly reporting. Matt explains the shift to only two categories, raising the large accelerated filer threshold to $2B market cap, eliminating smaller reporting company status, and leaving roughly 80% of public companies as non-accelerated filers with reduced disclosures (e.g., two years of audited financials). They note a five-year IPO grace period, dubbed the “Elon exemption”, that could cover large new issuers such as SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic. They warn of weakened investor protection, reduced enforcement, and significant impacts on compliance and culture. The episode closes with reflections on Barney Frank’s intellect, style, and Dodd-Frank legacy. Key highlights: Atkins Rollback Overview New Filer Categories and Elon Exemption Investor Protection Fallout Compliance Culture Impacts Remembering Barney Frank Resources: Matt on Radical Compliance Tom in Compliance Week Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 13, 202626 min

The DOJ Trainwreck and the Rising Risk Calculus for Compliance and Self-Disclosure

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore it more fully. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss how internal dysfunction at the U.S. Department of Justice is creating uncertainty for corporate compliance teams and corporations more generally. Focusing on a reported turf battle between the long-standing Fraud Section in the Criminal Division, established in 1955 and central to FCPA enforcement and compliance guidance, and a newly created national Fraud Division, which was initially framed as targeting government benefits fraud. They argue that the reorganization could drain expertise, reduce future DOJ guidance, and distort enforcement into politically selective actions, citing IBM’s $17 million settlement, an EEOC case involving The New York Times and Smartmatic, and Smartmatic’s experience. They also highlight DOJ staffing losses with a net 20% fewer lawyers, loss of experienced attorneys, reliance on inexperienced hires and bonuses, and warn that the volatility may chill voluntary self-disclosure despite DOJ messaging encouraging it. Key highlights: DOJ Train Wreck Overview Fraud Section vs Fraud Division Political Enforcement Reality Self-Disclosure Gets Riskier What Companies Should Do Now Resources: Matt on Radical Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been conferred a Davey, a Communicator Award, and a W3 Award, all for podcast excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ted Lasso, Culture and Compliance

FinCEN’s $125MM UBS AML Order: A Culture and Resourcing Failure

Scoular Company FCPA Settlement: Cartel Links, Border Trade Risks, and Compliance Lessons

The Slaughter Ruling, Regulatory Volatility and a Healthcare Compliance Fraud Case

Survey Finds Widespread Retaliation Against Compliance Officers

Bosch and the Foreign Direct Product Rule: Lessons from the Export Controls and NSD Settlement

OFAC’s Warning Shot: FTI Consulting Fined for Indirect Dealings with Sanctioned Bank

Why the Compliance Job Market Feels Frozen

An SEC Rollback and a Tribute to Barney Frank

The DOJ Trainwreck and the Rising Risk Calculus for Compliance and Self-Disclosure

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