Episode 204: Holding It Together Is Not The Job with guest, Maria Wade
Send us Fan Mail Your best leaders can look calm and still be in trouble. When uncertainty stops being a short-term disruption and becomes the water everyone swims in, “stay strong and push through” turns into isolation, second-guessing, and a constant fight with their own internal signals. That’s the heart of our conversation with executive coach and coaching supervisor Maria Wade, author of “Holding It Together Is Not the Job: Coaching Leaders in Prolonged Organizational Chaos.” We dig into what changes when the world moves from complicated to complex to chaotic and why senior leadership challenges stop being technical problems you can solve with more expertise. Maria shares how coaches can use presence and interoception, the felt sense of what’s happening inside the body, as real data in a session. We talk about why the goal isn’t to calm a client down, but to help them get accurate information from a system they’ve learned to override, and how neuroscience on constructed emotions informs a more careful, respectful approach. From there, we zoom out to the identity shift leaders face after promotion: more autonomy, fewer guardrails, and often less honest support. We explore vulnerability with boundaries, breaking isolation without oversharing, and bringing the system into the room through psychological safety and accountability. Maria also points listeners to a practical Chaos Guide and explains how her leadership integrity framework connects inner awareness, relationships, and the larger organizational system. If you coach executives, lead teams, or work inside fast-changing organizations, you’ll walk away with language and practical moves for staying grounded while everything shifts. Subscribe, share this with a fellow coach or leader, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Watch the full interview by clicking here . Read the full article here . Learn more about Maria here . * Gift – When Holding It Together Stops Working: A Field Guide for Coaching Leaders Through Prolonged Chaos. A free four-page companion to my Choice feature, written for coaches who work with senior leaders when a crisis stops being a moment and becomes the weather. It lays out four moves for those long engagements: reading the body in the room before you trust the briefing, noticing when a leader is solving the right problems at the wrong level, finding the isolation hiding inside hard-won autonomy, and coaching the identity underneath the performance. It closes with five questions to ask yourself before your next session, because you cannot ask a leader to stop performing composure while you perform it back at them. Download it free at chaosguide.mariawade.us . Grab your free issue of choice Magazine here - https://choice-online.com/















