Canny Conversations Podcast by Safaraz Ali Social Entrepreneur, CEO of Pathway Group and proud Birmingham business leader, where he shares his insights and experiences on entrepreneurialism, having a growth mindset and getting the best out of people as well as useful information to help your grow your business, develop and build your team. Canny Conversations has now completed over 50 episodes making an impact on UK business Podcasts and demonstrating how sustainable business can benefit. In the third series Safaraz speaks with journalist Adrian Kibbler as well as some great guests sharing their thoughts and insights. In the fourth series Safaraz shares his own individual thoughts again. Canny conversations are intended to challenge and cannily captivate. Let us know if they do or otherwise! The topics covered in these conversations range from individual biographies & life stories to industry specific conversations as well as all things self development, enterprise & entrepreneurship and that’s just for starters. Previously we have received very good feedback on a number of our podcasts with topics such as; the importance of people, how to recruit them and get the best from them. It explores what makes a good leader and how to build strong teams within a winning culture. ‘Don’t expect to agree with everything but remain open and challenged. There is plenty to ‘chew on’ as Safaraz might say. Safaraz Ali is the author of Canny Bites books, the fourth book being the lates titled: ‘Successfully Scale Up or Exit Your Business’ which helps business owners and leaders know exactly what they need to consider when growing their business. It’s a workbook and a checklist for entrepreneurs to help put the foundations in place ensuring they have the right toolkits to make scaling an easier task. https://safaraz.co.uk/
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January 23, 2026Episode 14736 min
Andrew Hulbert FIWFM - Part 2
In the second half of Safaeaz's conversation with Andrew Holbert we dive deep into the world of public speaking, personal growth, and the journey of entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of stepping out of one’s comfort zone, particularly in the realm of public speaking. He highlights how speaking engagements, regardless of the audience size, can significantly enhance one’s confidence and skill set.Looking ahead, Andrew discusses his aspirations for the next five years, focusing on spending quality time with his children and continuing to invest in businesses. He also shares his passion for giving back, highlighting his commitment to blood donation and environmental initiatives, such as planting a forest.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-book/https://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
January 16, 2026Episode 14638 min
Andrew Hulbert FIWFM - Part 1
The Canny Conversations podcast welcomes Andrew Hulbert, a successful entrepreneur who built and sold a facilities management business for $100 million. Andrew discusses his journey from starting the company in his bedroom to managing a diverse senior leadership team and winning high-profile contracts. He emphasizes the importance of networking, personal branding, and writing to establish industry presence. Now in a reflective phase of life, Andrew is focused on family, voluntary work, and investing in other businesses. He also shares insights into the facilities management industry, his leadership style, and the significance of entrepreneurship. Additionally, Andrew highlights the evolving role of AI, particularly in prompt engineering, underscoring its potential impact on personal and professional growth.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-book/https://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
November 27, 2025Episode 14525 min
Lisa Davies - Director of Apprenticeship Development at Birmingham City University
What happens when higher education meets the dynamic world of apprenticeships?In this episode Safaraz is in conversation with Lisa Davies about her role as Business Development Director at Birmingham City University, where she is delivering employer led Apprenticeship recruitment and training solutions. They talk about the shifting landscape of apprenticeship funding, focusing on Level 7-degree apprenticeships and the impact of upcoming changes.With an institution housing over 30,000 students and more than 3,000 staff, Lisa navigates the complexities of adapting apprenticeship programs to meet the ever-shifting demands of industry and commerce. We also hear how BCU is positioning itself as a national leader in providing apprenticeship opportunities. https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-book/https://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
November 20, 2025Episode 14417 min
Danny Pardoe - Apprenticeship Growth Manager at Birmingham City University
Can apprenticeships be more than just a backup plan? Join us as we converse with Danny from Birmingham City University, who passionately argues for apprenticeships as a first-choice pathway. With Danny at the helm of apprenticeship programs, he sheds light on the transformative power of these initiatives, challenging outdated perceptions.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-bookhttps://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
November 10, 2025Episode 1431 hr 7 min
Kirstie Donnelly MBE, CEO at City & Guilds now part of PeopleCert discusses the sale and much more!
Kirsty Donnelly, CEO of City & Guilds, talks to Safaraz Ali about her remarkable journey as she takes the helm under the new ownership of PeopleCert.In this powerful episode of Canny Conversations, Safaraz Ali sits down with Kirstie Donnelly MBE, the Chief Executive Officer of City & Guilds, to explore a career shaped by transformation, vision, and values-driven leadership.Now leading City & Guilds through one of the most significant turning points in its 145-year history, Kirstie reflects on her remarkable journey - from navigating the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic to steering a bold new chapter through the acquisition by global certification leader PeopleCert. It’s a candid and timely conversation about what it takes to lead a legacy organisation through disruption, remain focused on mission, and adapt for the future of work.This episode is more than a leadership story - it’s a frontline account of how the UK’s most recognised awarding body is repositioning itself to meet the demands of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, embracing digital credentials, globalisation, and lifelong learning, while staying anchored in purpose and social mobility.Kirstie opens up about the pressures of leadership during the pandemic, the strategic reflections that led to the PeopleCert deal, and how she sees City & Guilds playing a renewed role in the global skills ecosystem. Her belief that “talent exists everywhere, but opportunity does not” is a theme that runs deeply throughout the episode - as does her call for system-wide reform, cross-sector collaboration, and courageous leadership.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-book/https://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
October 30, 2025Episode 14234 min
Lisa Capper MBE - CEO & Principal of Sandwell Colleges - Part 2
Welcome to the second half of Safaraz's conversation with Lisa Capper MBE, the CEO and Principal of Sandwell Colleges. In this episode, Lisa takes us behind the scenes of the Sector Work-Based Academy Programmes (SWAPS), revealing how these innovative initiatives are equipping adults with the skills needed to thrive in hospital settings and through collaboration with community organizations, schools, and employers, individuals are overcoming personal challenges and finding new pathways to success.Lisa also opens up about her passionate commitment to inclusive education, inspired by her son's experience with unilateral hearing loss. As the first female chair of the National Deaf Children's Society, Lisa shares her personal mission to create resources and support for children with disabilities.Finally, we learn the value of building high-performing teams through a culture of shared vision and alignment, where empowerment and development are key. https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-bookhttps://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
October 23, 2025Episode 14132 min
Lisa Capper MBE - CEO & Principal of Sandwell Colleges - Part 1
Welcome to Lisa Capper MBE, the inspiring CEO and principal of the Sandwell Colleges Group. Lisa takes us through her journey of leading the largest college network in the West Midlands, shedding light on how these institutions are pivotal in transforming lives in communities marked by high deprivation. She shares the innovative steps Sandwell Colleges are taking, like the introduction of T-levels, to prepare learners for a future entwined with AI and technology, making education a powerful catalyst for social mobility.Lisa highlights the remarkable milestones achieved by Sandwell College in student safety and diversity, earning top accolades for safeguarding and fostering an inclusive environment. With a large percentage of learners from black and ethnic minority backgrounds, Lisa talks to us about the college's commitment to diversity and its impactful 'swaps program,' which successfully integrates adults into NHS employment. These stories underscore the adaptability and community-focused ethos of Sandwell Colleges amidst the challenges of a competitive educational landscape.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-bookhttps://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
October 16, 2025Episode 14041 min
Mo Chaudry - Part 2: British Pakistani £170M Entrepreneur in conversation with Safaraz Ali
Welcome to this very special Canny Conversations podcast. We continue our break from our usual format to bring you the second half of Safaraz’s conversation with Mo Chaudry, British-Pakistani entrepreneur, investor, and philanthropist.Mo Talks about his connection to, and love of Stoke-on-Trent. He tells us about taking the risk of buying Water World in Staffordshire, even when the bank would not lend him the money and the deciding to sell just at the right time.Saf and Mo also touch his appearance on The Secret Millionaire TV show and finish their conversation with Mo’s thoughts on role models for business and life.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-book/https://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
October 9, 2025Episode 13940 min
Mo Chaudry - Part 1: British Pakistani £170M Entrepreneur in conversation with Safaraz Ali
We are delighted to welcome Mo Chaudry, a British-Pakistani entrepreneur, investor, and philanthropist. He is best known for having owned and transformed Waterworld in Stoke-on-Trent from 1999 until its sale in 2025. Mo is now focused on his roles at M Investment Group and Pulse Global, as well as his ongoing work in community development, mentoring, and philanthropy. His journey is one of vision, tenacity, and reinvention - from immigrant roots to building one of the UK’s most recognised leisure brands, and now stepping into a new phase. In this special episode, Mo Chaudry, the dynamic entrepreneur opens up to Safaraz about his career transition, shedding light on his involvement with Pulse, a global gym equipment company, and his embrace of tech investments. Through his experiences, Mo illustrates the power of passion and innovation in entrepreneurship, offering listeners a unique perspective on the courage it takes to embrace change and seize new opportunities. By moving away from a victim mentality and embracing accountability, Mo demonstrates how personal and professional growth can be unlocked. This episode is a testament to the mindset and attributes necessary to achieve one's goals, making it a must-listen for aspiring entrepreneurs.Mo's commitment to philanthropy and diversity underscores his inspiring journey. From supporting creative talents and Oscar-winning projects to establishing the Al Amir Foundation, Mo's active involvement in charitable endeavours shows his dedication to making a meaningful impact. We discuss his adventures in challenging bike rides and the M Club Foundation's mission to empower young people through sports. These stories highlight how Mo's hands-on approach to charity and his belief in the transformative power of sports create opportunities for young individuals to fulfil their potential, regardless of their backgrounds.https://www.linkedin.com/in/mochaudry/https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-book/https://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
October 2, 2025Episode 13831 min
Jon Hornagold - Apprenticeship Manager at Amey - Part 2
This week we hear the second half of Safaraz’s conversation with Jon Hornagold, the apprenticeship manager at Amey. They look at the differences between apprenticeships and degrees and how the different paths suit different people. It is all about having an alternative choice in training and education.https://cannyconversationspodcast.co.uk/https://safaraz.co.uk/https://cannybites.co.uk/buy-the-bookhttps://www.1386audio.com/have-a-listen
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