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Whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, Business Builders is dedicated to helping you grow your business and yourself through real-world insights and peer learning. Our mission is to inspire Business Builders like you to invest in self-development, sharpen your skills, and become more effective leaders. Hosted by passionate and experienced Business Builders, Brenton Gowland and Ron Tomlian, we believe that the journey of growth never stops. Join us as we explore how to become the best leaders and business builders we can be—together.

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March 19, 2026Episode 8159 min

What’s at Stake for South Australia’s Future

What’s really at stake for South Australia’s future?In this Business Builders session, Damian Percy sits down with South Australian Treasurer Tom Koutsantonis to unpack the key forces shaping the state’s next decade, including energy, infrastructure, housing, migration, and workforce capability.Recorded live in front of a Business Builders audience, this is a practical and candid discussion about opportunity, constraints, and what needs to happen next.🔍 In this episode, we explore:✅ The scale of upcoming investment across energy, defence, and industry✅ Why workforce and skills shortages may be the biggest constraint to growth✅ The realities of housing affordability and supply✅ The role of migration in shaping economic outcomes✅ How government and business intersect in driving progress🎤 Speakers:Hon. Tom Koutsantonis MP, Treasurer of South AustraliaDamian Percy, Co-Founder, Business Builders💡 Key Insights“South Australia has a once in a generation opportunity, but opportunity means nothing if we don’t have the capacity to deliver it.”“The biggest constraint on growth right now isn’t demand, it’s people. We simply don’t have enough skilled workers.”“You can attract investment, but if people can’t find housing, the system starts to break down very quickly.”“The next four years will determine whether South Australia captures this moment or misses it.”🎥 Filmed and recorded by our sponsor:Click Films - https://www.clickfilms.com.au

January 18, 2026Episode 8042 min

Fitness Capacity Beats Weight

Being skinny does not mean being fit. And for business owners and leaders, mistaking weight for health can quietly undermine long-term performance, decision-making, and independence.In this episode of the Business Builders Podcast, Brenton Gowland and Ron review and unpack a powerful live presentation from exercise physiologist Max Martin, recorded at an in-person Business Builders event. Presented in front of a live audience, the session challenges common assumptions about health, ageing, and performance, particularly for busy professionals who believe looking “healthy enough” is good enough.The discussion explores why fitness capacity, not body weight, is one of the strongest predictors of how long and how well we live. From cardiovascular fitness and VO2 max to strength, balance, and cognitive capacity, the episode reveals why being “skinny but unfit” can carry serious long-term risks that are often overlooked.A key theme is the relationship between physical fitness and brain health. Max explains how cardiovascular fitness and strength training play a role in reducing the risk of cognitive decline and dementia, reframing exercise as a long-term investment in mental clarity, independence, and decision-making ability.This is not about aesthetics or chasing a gym body. It is about building the physical and cognitive capacity required to sustain energy, clarity, and leadership over decades, not just quarters.In this episode, you will learn:Why weight is a poor proxy for real health and longevityWhat fitness capacity actually means and why it matters for performanceHow VO2 max links to mortality, cognition, and resilienceThe connection between physical fitness, brain health, and dementia riskWhy “skinny but unfit” can be more dangerous than people realiseHow strength, balance, and cardio protect independence as you ageWhat business owners should prioritise when time and energy are limitedIf you care about long-term performance, better decisions, and remaining effective well into the future, this episode will challenge how you think about health.Featured presentation: Max Martin, Exercise PhysiologistHosts: Brenton Gowland and Ron

October 11, 2025Episode 7941 min

How to Make Government Listen: Small Business Can Drive Real Change

What does it really take to make government listen?In this episode, we sit down with Simone Douglas — publican, business advocate, and founder of the Business Owners Collective — to unpack how small business owners can influence government decisions, shape better policy, and drive change that matters.From rallying hundreds of hospitality operators during COVID to getting real reform on the political radar, Simone shows how small business can have a powerful voice — when it’s used strategically and collectively.🔍 What You’ll LearnHow to get government’s attention — and why facts matter more than frustration.The importance of building a “tribe” — why collective voices carry weight.How to engage media effectively — developing relationships that amplify your story.Turning emotion into influence — staying calm, credible, and solution-focused.Inside story: How Simone’s $33 chicken parmi went viral and changed public perception.Real-world advocacy tips — how to meet with ministers, frame your argument, and offer workable solutions.🗣️ Key Quotes“You can make change happen — but you do have to get the attention of the people in power.” – Simone Douglas“If you’re emotional, it’s very difficult to be heard. The people you’re speaking to will react to your emotion, not your argument.” – Simone Douglas“Go to government with solutions, not complaints.” – Ron Tomlian“You’re never powerless. Politicians work for us — whether they realise it or not.” – Simone DouglasIf you found this episode useful, hit Subscribe for more conversations that help business owners rethink how they operate, connect, and grow.

July 27, 2025Episode 7824 min

How to Network: The Only Two Networking Tactics You Need

Most networking advice focuses on how to start a conversation. But what do you do after that?In this episode, Brenton and Ron reveal the only two networking tactics you’ll ever need — and neither involves collecting business cards or giving your elevator pitch.The secret?👉 Find alignment👉 Do things togetherThese two principles are at the heart of every strong business relationship. Whether you're nurturing your current network or expanding into new circles, this episode breaks down how to make your networking activities feel more natural, valuable, and effective.You’ll learn:How to spot when someone is truly aligned with your goals and valuesWhy doing things with others (even menial tasks) builds connectionConversation starters that are actually interestingHow introverts can network on their own termsA practical, no-fluff approach to turning events into opportunitiesThis episode is about how to network in a way that is sure to build strong connections.🔗 Subscribe to Business Builders for more real-world insights on building relationships and growing a business that matters.

May 20, 2025Episode 7732 min

Leaders Don’t Have The Luxury To Do Nothing

In this candid conversation, Cameron Johnston shares the raw reality of building a business up from four people to a diversified group that includes more than 100 staff across five businesses and the challenges he's faced along the way.From failing his first attempt at payroll to driving trucks with critical payloads across Australia during a crisis, Cameron has learned the hard way what it means to carry the weight of leadership and the necessity of delegation. We talk about the moments that defined his journey, from facing near-collapse, letting go of control, hiring a CEO, and the power of surrounding yourself with good people.Whether you're scaling a business, managing a team, or simply feeling stuck — Cameron’s story will inspire you to keep moving, even when standing still feels like the easy option.What You'll Learn:Why leaders can’t afford to wait for the perfect moment to actHow Cameron transitioned from corporate life to business ownershipWhat to do when you’re at rock bottom — and still have to leadThe tough truth about employing people (the good and the bad)How delegation, trust, and a bit of strategic ignorance can set you freeWhy comparison is toxic, and your business journey must be your ownThe surprising power of peer groups and speaking honestlyThe personal side of leadership: burnout, balance, and bringing your family alongAbout Cameron Johnston:Cameron is a seasoned entrepreneur and founder of the Rowlands Group, a collective of businesses with a focus on design, manufacturing, urban infrastructure and asset management. With over 25 years of experience, Cameron brings honesty, humility, and humour to the often-over-glamorised world of business leadership.He’s also a host of Business Builders and a firm believer in giving back by sharing the lessons he learned the hard way.

April 1, 2025Episode 7620 min

How to Network: Planning Your Networking in Just Two Steps

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by networking—or not sure where to start—this episode breaks it down into two simple but powerful steps: nurture your network and fill your network. That’s it.Brenton Gowland and Ron Tomlian walk through how to structure your networking activities using a framework inspired by Dunbar’s Number. From your tight-knit inner circle to your wider connections, you’ll learn how to identify who’s in your network, who’s missing, and how to maintain meaningful contact with the people who matter most.👥 What You’ll Learn:The two core activities that drive meaningful networkingHow to apply Dunbar’s Number to structure your networkThe difference between your core, close, active, and engaged networksWhy nurturing your existing connections is more valuable than constantly seeking new onesThe importance of cadence — and how to schedule relationship-building into your calendarPractical ways to stay top-of-mind with your network (without it feeling transactional)How to spot new opportunities to connect, far beyond traditional networking events🔑 Key Idea:Networking is not a random act — it’s a discipline. Nurture your relationships. Fill the gaps. Repeat.

March 6, 2025Episode 7530 min

Mini Networking Masterclass

I wish someone had taught me this Mini-Networking Masterclass when I started out.... Networking is the most powerful tool for career growth, business success, and new opportunities, yet most people do it wrong. If you’ve ever left a networking event feeling like a used car salesman or wondering if all this effort is actually getting you anywhere, you’re not alone.In this 25-minute masterclass, we’ll break down:✅ The #1 mistake most people make in networking (and how to avoid it)✅ The Networking Framework that actually works (Dunbar’s Number)✅ How to build relationships that bring real value (without being salesy)✅ Why most professionals network without a clear purpose—and how to fix it✅ The “Give, Give, Give, Ask” principle that will transform your approach🚀 Key Takeaways:If you don’t have a networking plan, you’re wasting your efforts.It’s not just about meeting people—it’s about building long-term relationships.Your existing network is the most valuable tool you have.Stop thinking transactional—start thinking strategic!👉 If you found this episode valuable, hit subscribe and drop a comment with your biggest networking challenge!#Networking #BusinessGrowth #Masterclass #CareerSuccess

February 11, 2025Episode 7431 min

Think You Can’t Succeed? This Film Director Proves You Can!

In this episode of Business Builders, we sit down with Australian film director Matthew Holmes to uncover the remarkable similarities between filmmaking and building a successful business. From overcoming setbacks like floods on set to navigating an evolving film industry, Matthew shares his incredible journey of risk-taking, resilience, and never giving up on his dreams.Discover how this director made four successful films, including The Legend of Ben Hall and the upcoming Fear Below, by thinking outside the box and creating opportunities where none seemed possible. His advice isn’t just for filmmakers—it’s for anyone chasing success in business, startups, or creative industries.💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: 1️⃣ Why resilience and risk-taking are crucial for success in both business and filmmaking 2️⃣ How Matthew Holmes built a successful career in a highly competitive film industry 3️⃣ The secrets to motivating and managing large teams through collaboration 4️⃣ The importance of thinking outside the box to overcome resource constraints 5️⃣ How to pitch your ideas effectively and attract investors to support your vision 6️⃣ The seismic shifts in the film industry and what they mean for creators and businesses today.Stay tuned for our next episode, where we’ll dive into planning your networking strategy based on your network map.✨ Key Takeaways and Practical Advice: • Resilience and Risk-Taking Are Essential for Success• Think Outside the Box to Create Opportunities• Success Requires Persistence and Vision• Collaboration Is Key to Building Great Projects• You Don’t Need Everything to Be Perfect to Start• Master the Art of Pitching• Industry Is Changing—Adapt or Get Left Behind• Creative Leadership Requires Motivation and Vision• Attracting Investors Requires More Than a Good Idea📙 Here's what's in this video - enjoy!00:00 - Introduction Introduction and episode overview00:25 - Matthew Holmes’ story: From passion projects to feature films01:23 - Shocking film industry statistics and the odds of success03:51 - The entrepreneurial mindset: What keeps Matthew motivated07:53 - Navigating changes in the film industry business model13:46 - How to lead and motivate teams in high-pressure environments14:52 - Taking big financial risks and finding innovative ways to finish projects18:13 - Balancing passion and financial reality in business21:52 - Mastering the art of the elevator pitch23:02 - The impact of AI on the film industry and creative work27:55 - Final advice: Never give up, and attract opportunities by taking action🎙️ Follow us for more Business Builders goodness• YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BusinessBuildersNetwork• Podcast - https://businessbuilders.buzzsprout.com• LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/10370740👥 Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn• Brenton Gowland - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentongowland• Ron Tomlian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rontomlianbusinessmentor🌟 Partner Highlights:Adapt_CO: Helping companies transform through marketing. https://adaptco.com.au/📢 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe!Thank you for tuning in—remember to KEEP ON BUILDING! 💪

January 9, 2025Episode 7314 min

How to Network: Map Your Business Network in 3 Easy Steps

Welcome to 2025! In this episode we discuss the essential process of mapping your network. Learn why mapping your network is like building a treasure map to uncover meaningful connections and opportunities. Whether you’re aiming to strengthen existing relationships or strategically grow your network, this episode provides actionable insights to get started. We’ll cover: Why mapping your network is a vital first step in understanding and managing your connections. How to use Dunbar’s number to categorise your network into core, close, active, and extended circles. Tools and techniques for visually mapping your network using spreadsheets, CRM systems, or tactile methods like whiteboards. The importance of distinguishing between personal and business categories to build a comprehensive map. Tips on reflecting and taking your time to determine where connections fit in your network. Stay tuned for our next episode, where we’ll dive into planning your networking strategy based on your network map. Key Takeaways: Mapping your network is crucial to understanding your current position and identifying opportunities for growth. Use Dunbar’s number to categorise your network into manageable groups. Choose a mapping method that works best for you, whether digital or tactile. Reflect on your connections to determine their relevance to your goals. Your network map becomes the foundation for strategic networking planning. Action Item: Start mapping your network today! Set up your categories and circles, and begin placing your connections in the appropriate spots. Take your time and reflect on each connection's relevance to your goals.

December 21, 2024Episode 7221 min

Resolutions Fail: Vision Boards Inspire!

In this episode, we discuss why New Year’s resolutions often fail and propose an alternative approach for setting and achieving goals: vision boards. Backed by neuroscience, vision boards provide a visual, engaging, and effective way to focus on your goals and manifest your dreams. Tune in as Brenton and Ron explore the benefits of visualisation, the science behind it, and practical steps to create your own vision board for 2025. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why New Year’s resolutions fail and how vision boards can help. • The neuroscience behind visualisation and the reticular activating system. • How vision boards support goal setting and manifestation. • Step-by-step guide to creating a vision board that works for you. • Tools and methods for creating both physical and digital vision boards. • Tips for involving family or teams to align goals and foster collaboration. • The importance of reviewing and updating your vision board regularly. Key Highlights: • Neuroscience Benefits: Discover how vision boards engage the reticular activating system to filter information and keep your goals in focus. • Practical Steps: Learn how to define timeframes, categories, and goals before curating images and ideas for your board. • Digital vs. Physical: Explore tools like Canva, Miro, and PowerPoint for digital boards or enjoy the tactile experience of crafting physical boards with magazines. • Family & Team Involvement: Get tips on using vision boards as a collaborative tool to align personal, family, or team goals. • Daily Habit Formation: Understand how consistent exposure to your vision board reinforces your goals. Tools Mentioned: • Canva (it has a free tool for creating vision boards) • Miro (storyboarding software with collaborative features) • Pinterest and Microsoft PowerPoint Challenge for Listeners: Join Brenton and Ron in replacing New Year’s resolutions with a vision board this year. Dedicate just 2-3 hours during the holiday break to create a board that inspires you daily. Share your vision board journey with us, and let’s make 2025 your best year yet! Join the Conversation: Subscribe to the Business Builders Podcast and follow us for more actionable insights to help you network with purpose and grow your career. Follow us for more Business Builders Goodness: YouTube - ⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@BusinessBuildersNetwork⁠⁠ LinkedIn Group - ⁠⁠⁠Business Builders Network⁠⁠ Website - ⁠⁠⁠businessbuilders.au⁠⁠ Connect with our hosts on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠Brenton Gowland⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Ron Tomlian⁠⁠⁠ Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Business Builders Podcast. Until next time, KEEP ON BUILDING!