Building Brand Gravity: Attracting People Into Your Orbit

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Building Brand Gravity: Attracting People Into Your Orbit, is a podcast for communicators across industries looking to gain an inside view into business influence. Each episode will feature a down-to-earth conversation with leading communications professionals, to share what they’re hearing and what they’re saying, in real time. Welcome to Building Brand Gravity!

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June 16, 202651 min

Why Good Leadership Is No Longer Good Enough

Good leaders were trained for stable times. The problem is the times are no longer stable, and “good” is no longer good enough.Anne Green sits down with David Grossman, founder and CEO of The Grossman Group and author of the new book The Heart Work of Modern Leadership: 6 Differentiators of Exceptional Leaders. Drawing on research conducted with The Harris Poll, David unpacks the three invisible gaps tied to “good leadership” that are quietly undermining engagement, trust, and business results today. They get into why gratitude is one of the top differentiators of exceptional leaders, why psychological safety is really a listening challenge with deeper roots, and how to communicate with context when you do not have all the answers. The conversation closes with David's case for retiring the term "soft skills" and treating them as what they actually are: the hardest skills in modern leadership and core to the “human moat” that AI is unlikely to cross.In this episode:Why "good" leaders are uniquely vulnerable in a moment of constant changeKey distinctions between “good” and “exceptional” leadershipThe three invisible gaps The Harris Poll research uncovered and what they revealWhy gratitude is a top differentiator of exceptional leadershipHow leading with both heart and head builds teams that are high performance and highly human

June 2, 202654 min

Know Where You Stand and Stand There

In a crisis, facts sometimes win arguments. But trust wins you the benefit of the doubt, and the benefit of the doubt is what saves you when the story moves faster than the facts.Anne Green sits down with Bradley Akubuiro, partner at Bully Pulpit International and author of the new book Faster, Messier, Tougher: Crisis Communication Strategies in an Era of Populism, AI, and Distrust. Bradley unpacks why the operating environment for leaders has fundamentally changed, how to tell the difference between an issue and a true crisis, and why conviction pays while waffling costs everything. They get into the framework he uses to help clients decide when to lean in, when to stay quiet, and how to match engagement to the actual level of risk in front of them. Bradley and Anne discuss his counsel to leaders to “figure out where you stand and then actually stand there,” so corporate values mean something when they are put to the test. The conversation closes with three practical takeaways for leaders navigating a moment where speed beats polish and resilience is built long before the crisis arrives.In this episode:Why trust and truth are different currencies, and why trust matters more under pressureHow to grade risk and decide whether an issue is actually your story to ownThe case for consistency over volume when standing in your valuesWhy employees are either your greatest ambassadors or your most credible detractors

May 19, 202655 min

Lessons from Three CEOs on Leading Over the Long Haul

The agencies performing best right now are not always the biggest or the most specialized. They are the ones figuring out how to evolve alongside their clients, lead with conviction, and build something that lasts. And that includes actively reflecting on the lessons of leadership learned along the way.Anne Green sits down with Beth Cleveland, CEO of Praytell, and Laura Tomasetti, CEO and founder of 360PR+, to mark their shared recognition on PRWeek's 2026 Women of Distinction list. The three trade lessons learned across decades of leadership – from what feels familiar versus what feels genuinely new in the agency world right now to the rise of AI as a value-creating catalyst. They share stories of the mentors who shaped them, why "walk around" leadership still matters in a hybrid world, and how celebrating small wins is critical for teams in danger of burning out on constant change. The conversation closes with practical leadership advice for anyone earlier in their career, including the case for active listening, leaning into your authentic strengths, and not traveling “too light” when it comes to maintaining the relationships you build along the way.In this episode:Why the best agencies today are operating partners, not just service providersHow to balance the pace of change with sustainable, healthy team cultureWhat active listening, authenticity, and curiosity unlock for emerging leadersThe case for thinking like a counselor early in your career, not just an executor

May 7, 202646 min

How to Close the Business Confidence Gap

Doing the work is not enough anymore. Companies have to prove it, explain it, and make it visible, or it will not land with the people who matter.Steve Halsey sits down with Dr. Rochelle Ford, CEO of the Page Society, to dig into the latest Page and Harris Poll Confidence in Business Index. Rochelle breaks down why the confidence curve is breaking globally, how only 29 percent of consumers see both the action and the context they need to trust companies, and why the economic story has become the most important narrative battleground for 2026. They get into the generational divide on issues like mental health, the rise of generative AI as a primary information source, and what it takes to build a content foundation that AI engines will actually surface. The conversation closes with a four-step plan for communicators and a candid look at where the profession is heading in a moment of full transformation.In this episode:Why action and context together are the only way to rebuild confidence in businessHow search and generative AI are merging and what that means for getting your story foundWhy mental health and economic impact are now table stakes for reaching younger audiencesA four-step plan for owning your narrative, calibrating by generation, and modernizing your channel mix

April 28, 202643 min

AI as a Leadership Test

AI isn’t the disruption. It’s the pressure test.In this first mailbag episode of 2026, Anne Green and Steve Halsey revisit the predictions, questions, and themes shaping the year so far, and what they reveal about leadership, value, and alignment inside organizations.From narrative as an operating system to the limits of “human in the loop,” the conversation challenges conventional thinking on productivity, pricing, and what it really takes to lead in a compressive moment where volatility, trust, and technology are colliding.The takeaway: this isn’t about adapting to AI. It’s about whether your organization is built to withstand what AI is now exposing.In this episode:Why this is a compressive moment, not just disruptionHow AI is exposing gaps in leadership, narrative, and alignmentWhy “human as architect” beats “human in the loop”What it really takes to move from hours to value in a compressed world

April 7, 202630 min

What Agency Leaders Need to Get Right Now

While AI’s impact and opportunity are top of mind for all integrated communications and PR agency executives, there is a wider disruption happening across agency business models, talent systems, and trust. The firms that evolve with and win in this next chapter will be the ones that make time to relentlessly learn, define value clearly, and keep human capabilities at the forefront – even as they are augmented by technology.Anne Green and Steve Halsey open with takeaways from a recent AI summit they hosted for PROI Worldwide’s Americas region, including what the group is seeing around AI adoption, change management, and the shift from hours and outputs to impact. Then Anne is joined by Kim Sample, President of the PR Council, for a wide-angle conversation on where the industry is headed and what leaders should be thinking about and doing next – including why growth is uneven, why a learning mindset is a critical differentiator in this current moment of change, and advice for both [AG1] agency and corporate-side communications leaders. They also dig into the need for industry leaders to forge a clearer vision for the future of AI and work in our field, stronger ethics and bias guardrails, and the continued centrality of the trusted advisor relationship between agencies and clients.In this episode:What the PROI AI summit revealed about uneven adoption and the “muddy middle” of real integrationAreas where PR and integrated marketing communications leaders must be focused todayManaging through a time of great change in the agency sector – and for client partners tooWhy value-based pricing models focused on impact, not just “time and materials,” are becoming the strategic unlock for agenciesCareer advice that raises relevance fast, from understanding client business fundamentals to reading the numbers behind the story

March 5, 202631 min

Your Narrative Is Your Operating System

In an era of AI acceleration, channel fragmentation, and constant crisis, brands don’t fail because they lack tools. They fail because their narrative systems are outdated.In this episode, Anne Green and Steve Halsey unpack a core premise they have been pressure-testing with clients and inside their own business: narrative is not just what you say about the business, it is how the business runs. They make the concept tangible with real-world examples of how strategy fractures when teams optimize for different instincts, and how a strong narrative can make an organization more coherent, legible, and resilient. They also explore how AI increases speed, volume, and risk, and why it can either amplify misalignment or reinforce coherence depending on whether the narrative is truly embedded. The conversation closes with a practical gut-check leaders can use to see if their narrative operating system needs an upgrade.In this episode:What it means to treat narrative as infrastructure, not messagingWhy AI does not replace leadership clarity, it exposes whether or not you have itHow crisis reveals your real operating system, not your strategy or playbookThree questions to help leaders pressure-test decision-making, AI use, and readiness under pressure.

February 19, 202652 min

Rethinking Productivity in the Age of AI

Productivity is not just about speed and output. In a world of burnout, constant pings, and emergent AI, the real advantage is learning how to do less better.Anne Green welcomes author, public speaker and creativity catalyst Natalie Nixon back to Building Brand Gravity to unpack her new book, Move. Think. Rest. along with the big question it asks: how can we understand “productivity” differently? Natalie traces how industrial era assumptions around productivity still shape modern work, then offers a more human operating system that integrates movement, reflection, and rest as inputs to higher quality thinking. They talk about why rest is not a reward but risk mitigation, how leaders can build cultures that make space for creativity, and why we are not in a tech revolution so much as a human one. The conversation gets practical on what needs to change inside organizations, from meeting norms and attention habits, to value based pricing and small prototypes that help systems evolve.In this episode:Why “do less better” is a productivity upgrade, not a step backThe MTR (Move. Think. Rest.) Framework and how it supports better judgment, focus, and creativityWhy rest creates operational resilience, plus micro breaks and sabbaticals that workWhy it’s critical to start moving from billable hours to contracts based on value and outcomes, and how using prototypes and asking better questions can help us get there

February 5, 202656 min

The AI Strategy Agencies Should Build Now

AI is just a new tool. It a shift in how work gets done, how brands show up, and how agencies prove value.Anne Green sits down with Aaron Kwittken, Partner and Global Head of AI + Innovation at FGS Global, to trace arc from agency builder to SaaS pioneer to enterprise AI operator. Aaron breaks down why the agentic revolution changes the game, how multi-model systems and “second screen” workflows reduce friction, and why adoption velocity matter more than the tech itself. They get practical about what is make-or-break in 2026from moving beyond hourly pricing to outcomes, to procurement pressure in-house agency. The conversation closes on what must stay human, where AI can accelerate the work, and how leaders can build the operating system for modern communications.In this episode:Why agentic workflows and second screen habits unlock real ROIThe agency business model reset, from hours and outputs to outcomesHow to build an AI stack that is multi-model, governed, and client-readyWhat still requires human judgment, especially crisis, counsel, and trust-building

January 6, 202636 min

12 predictions that will shape 2026

Predictions are everywhere, but the real question is what is changing underneath them. In 2026, the pressure is stacking, the signals are getting noisier, and leaders will be judged on clarity and trust.Anne Green and Steve Halsey share their 2026 predictions and use them as a way to talk through the forces reshaping how brands operate and communicate. They cover the volatility “pressure stack,” the trust crisis of synthetic reality, and why AI is moving from experimentation to standard operating practice, with discipline becoming the differentiator. They also dig into cross sector signals leaders cannot ignore, including the ripple effects of GLP-1s and the growing role of external validation in B2B. The episode lands on two clear leadership shifts: invest in the human side of AI transformation, and treat corporate narrative like an operating system, not a campaign.In this episode:12 predictions for 2026 across AI, trust, narrative, healthcare stress, and volatilityWhy synthetic content and compressed news cycles raise the bar for proof and credibilityWhat AI standardization really means, plus the people gap leaders keep underfundingThe case for narrative as an operating system that keeps your story coherent over time