Breaking the Binary

Hosted by Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer

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Aug 2024

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Breaking the Binary is a podcast from Women and Gender Diverse People in Technology hosted by Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer, dedicated to highlighting the experiences of women and gender-diverse individuals in the tech industry. Each episode features a new guest who shares their journey through the tech space, from getting started, to what they’ve learned along the way and all the ups and downs throughout. With a mission to provide a platform for underrepresented voices in the industry, the podcast aims to inspire listeners to pursue their passions in technology, promote diversity and inclusion in the field and have a little fun along the way.

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August 12, 2024Episode 81 hr 1 min

Why gender inclusion? Pronouns, language, and believing women

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," Sarah and Arden dive deep into the importance of gender diversity in the workplace and beyond. Our discussion covers critical topics such as the distinction between sex and gender, and the true meaning of gender diversity—it's more than just including women. We explore the significance of using the correct pronouns and how language plays a powerful role in reinforcing social positions. We'll also discuss practical approaches for fostering a more inclusive environment, including gender-neutral terms for addressing groups, and why it's crucial to treat women and gender-diverse individuals with respect by genuinely listening to their experiences. We challenge the conventional approach of questioning why women aren’t applying to your organisation, instead flipping the narrative to consider what your organisation offers women and gender-diverse people, and why they would want to work for you. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Resources: https://immi.se/intercultural/article/view/11149-Balamuralietal-sp https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-dance-connection/202102/are-you-girl-lady-or-woman-why-language-matters https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/05/the-authority-gap-by-mary-ann-sieghart-review-why-women-are-still-taken-less-seriously-than-men-and-what-we-can-do-about-it

July 29, 2024Episode 71 hr 5 min

Confidence & Competence with Teddy

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," we chat Confidence and competence with Teddy. Teddy’s background is diverse, covering multiple roles at a fast-paced privately owned SaaS company in Newcastle. The article that’s the foundation of this discussion is ‘Why do so many incompetent men become leaders?’ By Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, published in 2013. We discuss what makes someone competent and how gender actually influences your perceived competence. We talk about the balance between self promotion and being authentic. The benefits of an equal society are brushed on, how Teddy looks for mentors, or decides it’s time to move on and leading to your values. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to the discussion today: https://hbr.org/2013/08/why-do-so-many-incompetent-men?utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=domcontent_bussoc&utm_term=Non-Brand&tpcc=domcontent_bussoc&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAi6uvBhADEiwAWiyRdtuQ5uJAUATSOxro8wRz4Y5PM5ZWClDY_TpQoY3Y7w1kGfCp2S18_xoC4J0QAvD_BwE https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomaspremuzic/2020/05/31/why-do-many-competent-people-fail-to-become-leaders/?sh=28ba1c1d8fc4 https://www.forbes.com/sites/joefolkman/2021/07/15/dont-fake-it-till-you-make-it-match--confidence-to-competence/?sh=787ac3723a94 https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellevate/2019/09/05/inspiration-for-the-timid-confidence-does-not-equal-competence/?sh=45fadfd89167 https://hbr.org/2019/03/to-seem-more-competent-be-more-confident https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/confidence-competence-which-wins-out-julia-ruane/ https://www.thedesignthinkers.com/thinking/confidence-is-not-competence https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/05/the-authority-gap-by-mary-ann-sieghart-review-why-women-are-still-taken-less-seriously-than-men-and-what-we-can-do-about-it https://www.amazon.com.au/Authority-Gap-women-still-seriously-ebook/dp/B08JGM3KGL

July 15, 2024Episode 61 hr 3 min

Tech PR and Impact with Sheena Martin

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," we delve into PR for Tech and the media's impact on the reach of tech. Joined by Sheena Martin who throughout her career has has worked extensively at the intersection of research, innovation, education and communications. Her work has a global footprint, having appeared in outlets including The Australian, The Guardian, BBC, TIME Magazine, Reuters, National Geographic and The Discovery Channel. We cover the importance of PR in translating complex technology and innovations and communicating the impact to the public. We also discuss; setting big goals, crisis media, diversity of those quoted in media and much more. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online.

June 10, 2024Episode 51 hr 2 min

Identity, success and being an expert with Dr Jessica Allen

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," we delve into identity, success and being an expert with Dr. Jessica Allen. Dr Jessica Allen is currently a Senior Lecturer in Chemical and Renewable Energy Engineering at the University of Newcastle. Her research focuses on developing technology that can use renewable electricity for manufacturing green products from steel and aluminium to carbon and fuels like hydrogen and ammonia. Dr Allen is an engineer, a proud Novocastrian and mum of two (three if you include the dog…) who enjoys mountain biking and tap dancing. We talk about the question asked to kids “what do you want to be when you grow up?”. How building an identity as an adult is often about more than work, having multiple careers and focusing our energy on what bring us value and what problems we want to solve in the world. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to this episodes discussion: https://www.forbes.com/sites/85broads/2011/04/14/why-is-it-that-women-are-seen-as-less-competent/?sh=7164ab97394d https://hbr.org/2007/07/the-making-of-an-expert https://tomsmith585.medium.com/why-i-hate-asking-kids-what-will-you-be-when-you-grow-up-e464b831d6f3 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/smarter-living/stop-asking-kids-what-they-want-to-be-when-they-grow-up.html https://shedefined.com.au/career/why-your-job-doesnt-define-your-identity/ https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1502567112

May 27, 2024Episode 452 min

Feeling like an Imposter with Annie Chayko

In this episode of 'Breaking the Binary,' we delve into the often unspoken struggles of feeling like an imposter in the workplace. Join us as we sit down with Annie Chayko, the Engineering Service Manager for the locally built RAN Minehunter in-service-support at Thales, Carrington. Annie shares her journey from the early days of her career to her current role, providing an honest and vulnerable conversation about the challenges she’s come across, often as the only woman in an engineering space. We talk about how feeling like an imposter is often a natural result of the environment we are in, especially in man dominated spaces; spaces that aren’t designed for women or gender-diverse people. We hope you’re encouraged to lean into what makes you special and know that your experiences, especially the hard ones, are an asset to you and make you who you are. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to the discussion: https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/16/impostor-syndrome-class-unfairness https://www.glamour.com/story/impostor-syndrome-isnt-a-syndrome-its-a-scheme https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/02/13/the-dubious-rise-of-impostor-syndrome

May 13, 2024Episode 31 hr 19 min

Diversity as a Strategic Tool with Claire Quigley

Welcome back to Breaking the Binary, we sit down with special guest Claire Quigley, Founder and Director of Launchpad9, to explore how diversity serves as a powerful tool for driving organisational success. We delve into the fundamental definitions of diversity, and discuss the importance of diversity in fostering better outcomes and the critical role of diverse leadership in organisational performance. Despite evidence supporting the benefits of gender diversity, the conversation shifts to why there remains a significant gender gap in corporate leadership and what actionable steps can be taken to address it. We also explore strategies for holding managers accountable for promoting diversity and making inclusive hiring decisions, as well as ways employees can drive inclusion up to leadership levels. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to the discussion today: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesinsights/2020/01/15/diversity-confirmed-to-boost-innovation-and-financial-results/?sh=28caf904c4a6 https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2020/11/16/diversity-isnt-an-outcome-its-a-strategy-for-business-success/?sh=42ffde7644d5 https://hbr.org/2004/09/diversity-as-strategy https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbusinesscouncil/2023/08/16/the-power-of-diversity-and-inclusion-driving-innovation-and-success/?sh=1a02787b2505

April 30, 2024Episode 255 min

Sponsorship with Annie Lacombe

Welcome back to Breaking the Binary, brought to you by Coded Diversity. In this episode, hosts Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer delve into the vital topic of sponsorship and mentorship in the tech and engineering industries. Joined by special guest Annie Lacombe, Engineering and Safety Manager at MGA Thermal, they explore the nuanced differences between sponsorship and mentorship and discuss their impacts on career progression, particularly for women in male-dominated fields. Drawing on Annie's extensive experience in the manufacturing industry, the conversation highlights the necessity of sponsorship for women's career advancement and the role of both men and women in fostering a more equitable workplace. Tune in for insightful discussions on building trust, providing constructive feedback, overcoming fear of success, and amplifying the visibility of women in technology. Plus, discover actionable strategies for organisations to support diverse talent and hold managers accountable. Don't miss out on this enriching episode packed with valuable insights and practical advice. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. --- Articles that contributed to the discussion today: ⁠https://hbr.org/2019/08/a-lack-of-sponsorship-is-keeping-women-from-advancing-into-leadership⁠ ⁠https://time.com/charter/6304775/why-more-men-should-become-sponsors-for-women/⁠ ⁠ https://www.forbes.com/sites/joanmichelson2/2023/05/31/how-to-advance-womens-careers-with-sponsorships/?sh=418ee5f8738e⁠ ⁠ https://hbr.org/2021/06/dont-just-mentor-women-and-people-of-color-sponsor-them⁠ ⁠ https://hbr.org/2023/01/women-get-nicer-feedback-and-it-holds-them-back⁠ --- See our website: https://codeddiversity.org Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codeddiversity

April 22, 2024Episode 138 min

Let's get chatty - season 2 kick-off!

Welcome back to Breaking the Breaking the Binary, your favourite podcast delving into the world of diversity and inclusion in the tech industry! Join us, your hosts, Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer, as we kick off Season 2. From the recording studio in Newcastle, Australia, on the traditional lands of the Awabakal people, we bring you up to speed on what’s been happening since the last season and unveil our perhaps ambitious plans for 2024. In this episode, we dive into updates on the podcast, and plans for this season. We want to know your questions! DM us with your professional dilemmas, suggestions for topics, guest speaker recommendations, even put your own hand up and let us know if you’re keen to be on the podcast. We get into why we started our exciting new non-profit organisation, Coded Diversity, and chat about upcoming meetups in Sydney, the benefits of sponsoring these events, and our event at the upcoming /NEW conference. With a lovely chunk of unstructured banter, we also share our favourite podcast episodes recorded so far, personal goals for the year, and random fun facts. So, whether you’re a seasoned listener or tuning in for the first time, grab your headphones and join the conversation! Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s website and social media channels for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. https://codeddiversity.org/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ https://www.instagram.com/codeddiversity/

January 24, 2024Episode 121 hr 14 min

Setting yourself up for leadership - WGDPTech Panel Event Special

The Women and Gender Diverse People in Tech are ending the year of wonderful monthly events with a bang - putting together our first-panel event! As voted by our members (on Slack and Linkedin, give us a follow ❤️), our topic for the night will be; how to set yourself up for leadership!We’re super excited to have some exceptional women leaders on this panel including Beck Sheperd, Cathy Lill and Linda Apostolidis!Everyone is welcome to this event, regardless of gender so share it with your friends. Through these speaker events, we aim to share experiences and knowledge, that's how we learn, and that's how we can improve the community for everyone. --- See our website: https://codeddiversity.org Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-techFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codeddiversity

September 27, 2023Episode 1132 min

Season 1 Wrap Up

It's the final episode of the season! In this podcast, we recap what we’ve achieved through this year, reflect on some of our favourite moments and look towards what next year holds for us. We also bust the myth of “rope learning” versus “rote learning”, how we’ve grown into our roles and the results of our personal life energy audits. Send us a DM of who you'd like to see on season 2! Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/