Beyond the Numbers

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Starting to explore the appraisal profession and want expert insight? Or are you measuring your appraisal career in decades now? Either way, this podcast is for you! I’m Julie Molendorp Floyd, MNAA, the Appraisal Curriculum Developer at McKissock. Join me with an expert guest each week as we dive into the topics that matter most to appraisers, from industry and education news to marketing and tax insights to help you run your business. And yes, we share war stories too!

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June 5, 2026Episode 614 min

Human Judgement in an AI World: Why Appraisers Matter More Than Ever

Send us Fan MailWelcome back to Beyond the Numbers with McKissock Appraisal! As automation, AI, and appraisal waivers continue to reshape the valuation landscape, where does the human appraiser fit in? In this episode, Kevin Hecht shares key insights from his recent presentation at the ACTS Conference, exploring why appraisers remain a critical force in protecting market stability. Discover the concept of the appraiser as a "macroeconomic stabilizer," learn why human judgment still outperforms algorithms in complex valuation scenarios, and hear how appraisers can position themselves as trusted market experts in an increasingly automated world.

April 13, 2026Episode 549 min

Bridging the Gap: How Appraisers, Agents, and Policy Shape the Future of Valuation

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Beyond the Numbers, Kevin Hecht sits down with Keisha Wilkinson, Senior Policy Representative for Valuation at the National Association of Realtors (NAR), to unpack one of the most important—and often misunderstood—relationships in real estate: appraisers and agents.With over a decade of experience at Fannie Mae and now working on the front lines of policy and advocacy, Keisha shares how valuation policy is shaped, how legislation impacts appraisers, and why communication between professionals is more critical than ever.From breaking down common misconceptions (yes, agents can talk to appraisers) to exploring major legislative efforts like the Appraisal Industry Improvement Act and Appraisal Modernization Act, this conversation dives into the real forces driving change in the industry.

March 27, 2026Episode 429 min

The Future of Appraisal: AI, Data, and the New Valuation Landscape

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Beyond the Numbers, Kevin Hecht sits down with Simon Blackburn, founder and CEO of MtgeFi, to unpack the future of the appraisal profession amid rapid industry change. From UAD 3.6 and hybrid appraisals to the growing role of data, AI, and mortgage-backed securities, Simon shares why appraisers remain essential—and where new opportunities are emerging.Tune in to hear practical insights on adapting your mindset, expanding your services beyond traditional appraisals, and positioning yourself for long-term success in a data-driven valuation landscape.

March 13, 2026Episode 336 min

What's Next for Appraisers? Malinda Griffin Explains!

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Beyond the Numbers with McKissock Appraisal, Kevin Hecht sits down with veteran appraiser and National Association of Appraisers President Malinda Griffin for a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of the appraisal profession. Drawing on more than three decades of experience, Malinda shares how she entered the industry, how the profession has changed over time, and why building a strong professional network is essential for long-term success. The discussion explores major industry shifts—from the rise of AMCs and new technology to the upcoming UAD/URAR 3.6 changes—while emphasizing why human judgment will always remain at the heart of valuation. Malinda also highlights opportunities beyond traditional lending work, including probate, divorce, and tax appeal assignments, and offers practical advice for appraisers looking to grow their careers while staying adaptable in a changing profession.

February 27, 2026Episode 232 min

From Clipboard to Change-Maker: Julie Floyd on Shaping the Appraisal Profession

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Beyond the Numbers, Kevin sits down with Julie Molendorp Floyd—Vice President of Regulatory Affairs and Dean of Students at RSDS Appraisal—for a candid conversation about risk, regulation, mentorship, and the future of the appraisal profession.They also explore innovative pathways into the profession, including RSDS’s Appraisal U practicum model, and discuss why curiosity—not fear—is the right response to shifts like UAD 3.6. Whether you’re just entering the field or decades into your career, this episode offers perspective, encouragement, and a forward-looking view of where appraisal is headed.

February 13, 2026Episode 125 min

An Appraiser's Introduction to 2026

Send us Fan Mail2026 is shaping up to be a pivotal year for real estate appraisers. In this episode of Beyond the Numbers, Kevin Hecht breaks down the biggest changes impacting the profession—from the rollout of UAD 3.6 and new mandatory education requirements to shifting market conditions and emerging technology. Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed or energized by what’s ahead, this episode offers a clear roadmap to help you adapt, stay competitive, and thrive in a rapidly evolving appraisal landscape.

November 7, 2025Episode 4940 min

Thriving Through Change: Mentorship, AI, and the Future of Appraisal

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Beyond the Numbers with McKissock Appraisal, Kevin Hecht sits down with Tim Anderson from The Appraiser’s Advocate for a candid conversation on how appraisers can not only survive but thrive in a rapidly changing profession. With decades of experience and a sharp wit, Tim shares his thoughts on the new URAR, the skills every modern appraiser needs, and how to successfully transition into private work. They also explore the evolving role of artificial intelligence in appraisal—what it can (and can’t) replace—and the critical importance of mentorship in developing the next generation of appraisers. Whether you’re a seasoned professional or just starting out, this episode is packed with practical insight, humor, and perspective from one of the industry’s most respected voices.

October 24, 2025Episode 4829 min

Beyond Borders: Inside the World of International Valuation with Bruce & Ben Greenberg

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Beyond the Numbers with McKissock Appraisal, Kevin Hecht sits down with Bruce and Ben Greenberg of Four Corners Evaluations—a duo whose work spans nearly 70 countries and countless valuation challenges. From tequila-fueled beginnings in Mexico to massive projects across the globe, the Greenbergs share remarkable stories of appraising embassies, navigating political unrest, and shaping valuation standards in emerging markets.Discover how trust, cultural understanding, and a global network have helped them thrive in the complex world of international real estate. Whether you're an appraiser curious about opportunities abroad or simply fascinated by how valuation transcends borders, this episode offers a rare look at what it takes to succeed on a worldwide scale.

October 10, 2025Episode 4745 min

AI, Abundance, and Appraisal: A Conversation with Roy Meyer

Send us Fan MailWelcome back to Beyond the Numbers with McKissock Appraisal! In this episode, we explore how artificial intelligence is transforming the appraisal profession—and what it means for the future of abundance in the industry. Roy Meyer, co-founder of VUVU Global, joins us to discuss how appraisers can leverage AI tools to work smarter, not harder, while maintaining the human expertise that drives accurate valuation. From automation to opportunity, we’ll uncover how embracing technology can empower appraisers to focus on what they do best: critical thinking, analysis, and professional judgment.

June 27, 202527 min

Work Smarter, Not Harder: How Freedom Appraise is Empowering Appraisers

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Beyond the Numbers, Kevin Hecht sits down with Andy Arledge—appraiser, software developer, and founder of Freedom Appraise—to explore how technology can empower, not replace, today’s working appraisers. Andy shares how his decades-long journey through real estate, property management, and appraisal led to the creation of Appraiser Genie and the all-in-one cloud-based platform, Freedom of Appraise. Learn how the software enables appraisers to complete nearly finished reports in the field in under ten minutes—while maintaining full control over comps, adjustments, and narrative. Discover how tools like built-in AI photo analysis, nationwide MLS access, and mobile reporting are streamlining workflows, improving support for adjustments, and keeping appraisers competitive in a fast-changing industry. Whether you’re tech-savvy or tech-wary, this conversation offers real solutions to help you work smarter, stay independent, and meet the growing demand for faster turn times.