Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio. Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide. Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction. Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit. Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha. Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate. Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
Listen to episodes
60 recent
June 12, 202655 min
To Infinity and Mars
Show from 2026-06-12
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the market’s positive reaction to a ceasefire agreement involving Iran, the reopening prospects for the Strait of Hormuz, and the potential impact of lower oil prices on inflation and economic growth. The Prof also highlights the highly anticipated SpaceX IPO, the wealth creation it could generate for investors, and previews next week’s pivotal Federal Reserve meeting and comments expected from Kevin Warsh. (21:01) Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti, and Jeff Weniger to discuss competition in artificial intelligence between OpenAI and Anthropic, the economics of AI token usage, and the potential for lower AI costs over time. The group also explores government investment in strategic industries such as semiconductors and quantum computing, examines investor sentiment and thematic investing trends, and debates the broader implications of the SpaceX IPO, including wealth creation, index inclusion, and consumer spending impacts.
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
June 5, 20261 hr 2 min
Risk & Reward with Ben Carlson
Show from 2026-06-05
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the surprisingly strong jobs report, the implications for upcoming Federal Reserve policy, and continued strength in equity markets despite geopolitical tensions and questions around productivity gains from AI. Professor Siegel also comments on international diversification, the dominance of U.S. technology companies, and the disconnect between Wall Street performance and broader economic productivity. (19:23) Jeremy is joined by Ben Carlson to discuss his new book, Risk and Reward: How to Handle Market Volatility and Build Long-Term Wealth. The conversation covers investor behavior during bull and bear markets, the importance of diversification, lessons from Japan and international markets, concentration risk, systematic investing, trend-following strategies, and how investors can avoid common mistakes such as market timing while maintaining a long-term perspective.
Guest: I’m the Director of Institutional Asset Management at Ritholtz Wealth Management. We create detailed investment plans and manage portfolios for institutions and individuals to help them achieve their goals.
I’ve been managing institutional portfolios for my entire career. I started out with an institutional investment consulting firm developing portfolio strategies and creating investment plans for various foundations, endowments, pensions, hospitals, insurance companies and high net worth individuals. More recently, I was part of the portfolio management team for an investment office that managed a large endowment fund for a charitable organization.
I’m the author of four books about saving, investing and money.
In 2017, I was named to the Investment News 40 Under 40 list of top financial advisors.
Every Wednesday, you can listen to a new episode of my podcast Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben. Fortune named Animal Spirits to its list of Best Business Podcasts. Investopedia named Animal Spirits to its top 10 investing podcast list.
Wealth of Common Sense: https://awealthofcommonsense.com/my-book/
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
May 29, 202655 min
Strength Beneath the Noise
Show from 2026-05-29
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss easing oil prices, lower Treasury yields, AI-driven market strength, recent economic data, and why investors should compare stock earnings yields to real bond yields rather than nominal bond yields. Professor Siegel notes that growth remains positive with no signs of recession, while also highlighting stronger money supply growth and upcoming labor market data as key areas to watch. (16:45) Jeremy is joined by Jeffrey Roach, Jeff Weniger, Sam Rines, and Chris Gannatti to discuss the economic outlook, inflation expectations, Fed independence, and portfolio positioning. The group examines consumer spending trends, opportunities in international markets with a focus on India, the outlook for oil prices following the Strait of Hormuz disruption, and sector opportunities across technology, healthcare, and biotech. They also explore AI infrastructure demand, government investment in strategic technologies such as drones, semiconductors, and quantum computing, and the broader implications of AI on productivity, employment, and future market leadership.
Guest: Jeffrey Roach is Chief Economist for LPL Financial. Responsible for relating economic conditions with financial market outcomes, Jeffrey provides forward-looking views of global economic conditions and sets forecasts across various economic data series.
Jeffrey is also a member of LPL Research’s Strategic & Tactical Asset Allocation Committee (STAAC), which provides a united investment view across a comprehensive range of investing disciplines. He provides regular, compelling insights for financial advisors and enterprise clients, and communicates the firm's economic views via conference calls, webinars, LPL events, and media engagements.
Known for cutting-edge research across a career that spans over 20 years in investing and economics, Jeffrey maintains frequent contact with Federal Reserve economists, Wall Street analysts, and other leading global money managers. He’s an avid contributor to the financial press outside of LPL Financial and is a sought-after speaker.
Jeff Roach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyroachphd
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
May 22, 202647 min
India to Mars: Contrarian Opportunities in a Changing World
Show from 2026-05-22
Host Jeremy Schwartz is joined by Sam Rines, Jeff Weniger, Chris Gannatti and Jon Flynn to discuss geopolitical developments surrounding Iran negotiations, China’s growing pushback on ADRs and solar exports, and contrarian opportunities emerging in India, Europe and gold amid heavy investor outflows. The group also explores Nvidia’s latest earnings, the government’s new investments in quantum computing, and how expectations and capital flows are shaping the next phase of AI, commodities and infrastructure investing. (9:21) Jeremy continues with Chris, Jeff and Jon as they debate the rise of quantum computing, the strategic importance of rare earth metals and utilities, and the growing overlap between AI, energy and national security. The conversation also covers SpaceX’s upcoming IPO, private market enthusiasm surrounding AI and space, and how investors are beginning to think about the next generation of technological infrastructure and innovation.
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
May 15, 202644 min
China Summit Disappoints: Rated Minus 2 Out of 10
Show from 2026-05-15
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the market reaction to President Trump’s summit with China, with the Prof calling the outcome a disappointment due to tensions around Taiwan, limited progress on Iran and weaker-than-expected economic deals. Professor Siegel also highlights rising oil prices, higher long bond yields and the resilience of the U.S. economy despite growing geopolitical uncertainty and inflation pressures. (12:39) Jeremy continues with Samuel Rines, Jeff Weniger and Chris Gannatti to discuss rising global bond yields, the impact of Taiwan tensions on markets and the growing influence of AI-related trades across emerging markets and tech sectors. The group also examines opportunities in India, healthcare valuations and the ongoing quantum computing race, while debating whether the recent surge in AI and semiconductor names is becoming stretched. Sam closes by noting the surprising resilience of the U.S. economy and the possibility that stronger growth could justify higher long-term interest rates.
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
May 8, 202656 min
Paris, Tariffs, and S&P 8,000
Show from 2026-05-08
Host Jeff Weniger and Professor Siegel discuss a much stronger than expected jobs report, the implications for Fed policy and interest rates, and how resilient AI-driven earnings growth continues to support equity markets despite geopolitical uncertainty and elevated oil prices. The Prof also comments on valuations, the declining energy intensity of the economy, and why he would not stand in front of the current momentum-driven market environment. (13:13) Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines and Jeff Weniger to discuss the latest developments surrounding Iran, China trade negotiations, tariffs and commodity markets. The group also explores the long-term outlook for oil supply, the growing divergence between energy and technology stocks, and the resurgence in AI-driven software and infrastructure names. They finish with a discussion on how AI is augmenting productivity across industries, the parallels to past technological revolutions, and why software companies may ultimately benefit rather than suffer from the AI boom.
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
May 1, 202653 min
AI CapEx, Fed Dissent, and the Bull Market That Won’t Quit
Show from 2026-05-01
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the latest Fed meeting dynamics, highlighting the unusual dissents toward a neutral bias and what it signals about the direction of monetary policy, while also reviewing strong economic data including historically low jobless claims, resilient retail sales, and a solid GDP print. Siegel emphasizes continued market strength driven by robust earnings, steady consumer activity, and sustained AI-related capital expenditures, while cautioning that rising oil prices and gasoline costs could pose a psychological and economic risk if they continue climbing. (13:53) Jeremy continues with Chris Gannatti, Jeff Weniger, Sam Rines, and Michael Fridman to break down a pivotal week in earnings, focusing on the acceleration of AI investment, exceptional strength in semiconductors, and early signs of improving sentiment in beaten-down software names. The group explores major tech results including standout performance from hyperscalers like Google, evolving competition between GPUs and ASICs, and how shifting capex flows are influencing market leadership and valuation debates. They also discuss portfolio positioning shifts toward software, geopolitical considerations impacting defense and Asia, currency movements in Japan, and broader global opportunities, while reinforcing the view that strong earnings growth and improving market breadth continue to support overall equity momentum.
Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelfridman23/
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
April 24, 202636 min
Waiting for Signal
Show from 24/04/26
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss resilient equity markets amid geopolitical tensions, strong earnings with a high beat rate, and continued strength in AI-driven demand. The Prof highlights steady economic data, manageable oil price pressures, and expectations for a Fed pause with attention turning to future policy decisions and inflation risks. (12:57) Jeremy continues with Chris Gannatti, Jeff Weniger, and Sam Rines to break down a strong earnings season led by consumer spending resilience and semiconductor momentum, particularly Intel’s turnaround and AI-related demand. The group also explores mixed signals in labor markets, the impact of tariffs and tax refunds on consumption, and ongoing volatility in software stocks versus semiconductors, with debate over AI’s long-term impact on tech valuations and earnings growth.
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
April 17, 202638 min
New Highs and Low-lights
Show from 17/04/26
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss easing geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, declining oil prices, and the market’s positive reaction driven by liquidity and defense spending. The Prof emphasizes there are no signs of recession despite low consumer sentiment and highlights continued strength in employment and earnings expectations. (12:32) Jeremy continues with Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti, and Jeff Weniger to discuss the market implications of falling oil prices, global equity reactions, and opportunities in international markets like India and Korea. They explore earnings trends, valuation dynamics, and sector rebounds, while also անդր addressing developments in AI, quantum computing, and shifting narratives in commodities like gold and copper.
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
April 10, 202659 min
Behind the Charts
Show from 10/04/26
Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss rising concerns around inflation and the possibility of a Fed rate hike driven by a recent increase in money supply and persistent energy price pressures. The Prof notes that while CPI came in slightly better than expected, resilient consumer spending and rising oil-related costs could complicate the Fed’s path, keeping policy restrictive for longer. (13:43) Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti, Jeff Weniger, and MacroCharts to break down geopolitics, energy markets, and equity positioning. The group discusses the likelihood of a U.S.–Iran ceasefire, resilience in the U.S. consumer despite higher oil prices, and volatility in tech driven by AI competition and SaaS repricing. MacroCharts highlights a potential top in energy, a constructive outlook for equities driven by underinvestment and positioning, and emerging opportunities across commodities, international markets, and beaten-down sectors poised to join a broader market recovery.
MacroCharts: https://www.macrocharts.com/
WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Is this your show?
Claim this listing to keep it up to date, reach guests who want to pitch you, and manage bookings with Guestify.
