2Tokens Podcast

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Alex Bausch sits down with Meindert Jansberg, co-founder of EnergyBlocks (formerly Assetblocks), to explore how blockchain technology is being used to open up clean energy investments to a broader audience. EnergyBlocks offers tokenized green bonds that provide a 6.5% annual return, with a fully digital and automated onboarding, investment, and reporting process. Though powered by blockchain, the platform is designed for simplicity—making it easy for retail investors to participate without dealing with crypto directly.Meindert explains how their offerings are MiFID-compliant, legally protected, and currently available to European investors, with a minimum investment starting at €5,000. The company is also preparing to launch an equity product, offering potentially higher returns and a deeper connection to project performance.Alex and Meindert also discuss the future of energy tokenization, including the concept of tracking and settling energy usage via blockchain, the regulatory challenges of turning kilowatt hours into tokens, and the exciting prospects for tokenized energy storage in batteries. It’s a candid look at the practical, legal, and technical layers behind real-world asset tokenization.To learn more or to invest, visit: www.energyblocks.nl Investor portal: www.myenergyblocks.nl (EU citizens only)participants:Alex Bausch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbausch/Meindert Jansberg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meindertjansberg/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

In this episode host Jonny Fry sits down with Elsa Madrolle, General Manager for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at VerifyVASP, to explore the complex and rapidly evolving world of crypto regulation and digital assets.Elsa shares her journey from a traditional finance background—most notably at CME Group—to becoming a leader in blockchain compliance. Their conversation delves into the significance of the FATF Travel Rule and how VerifyVASP supports virtual asset service providers in securely and compliantly exchanging sensitive information. With the rise of regulations like MiCA and DORA in the EU, Elsa explains how these frameworks are shaping the future of crypto services and what that means for institutions and startups alike.The episode also covers the growing relevance of zero-knowledge proofs, the challenges posed by global regulatory fragmentation, and why Asia remains a hotbed for fintech innovation. Elsa highlights how digital asset tokenization is transforming traditional financial products and why global exchanges are seeking out new ways to stay compliant while maintaining user privacy.Looking ahead to 2025, the conversation turns to the opportunities and pressures facing the digital asset space, particularly for smaller firms navigating increased compliance burdens, and the role M&A might play in reshaping the market.Participants:Elsa Madrolle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elsa-madrolle-7b35501/Jonny Fry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyfry/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

In this episode, Jonny Fry and Alex Bausch sit down with Martijn Siebrand from ABN AMRO to unpack what’s really happening in the world of blockchain, tokenization, and digital assets. Martijn shares his takeaways and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how one of Europe’s biggest banks is exploring the future of finance.The conversation covers everything from tokenizing bonds and driving green finance projects to what it could mean to digitize loan portfolios. It’s a fascinating look at how traditional banks are starting to embrace blockchain technology and rethink the way financial services work.They also dive into the latest around European regulation, stablecoins, and the growing interest from institutional players in digital assets. If you want to understand how blockchain is moving from buzzword to real-world impact, especially in the banking world, this episode is for you.Packed with insights, stories, and plenty of big-picture thinking, Jonny, Alex, and Martijn break down complex topics in a way that’s easy to follow, whether you’re deep in the crypto space or just curious about where finance is headed.Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry from TeamBlockchain explores the cutting-edge world of asset tokenization with two industry experts: Philipp Pieper from Swarm and Erich Schnoeckel from 2Tokens.The conversation revolves around the evolution of tokenization from the "wild west" of 2016-2017 to today's emerging regulatory landscape. Philipp shares insights into Swarm's innovative approach to tokenizing real-world assets, including a gold token offering in partnership with Brinks. The discussion explores the potential impact of MiCA regulation in Europe and potential regulatory shifts in the United States.The episode highlights emerging opportunities for tokenization across various sectors, including green energy, carbon markets, invoice financing, and community-based assets like concert tickets. The experts emphasize the importance of building trust, simplifying complex technologies, and creating user-friendly infrastructure that makes blockchain almost invisible to the end-user.Looking ahead to 2025, everyone in the episode is optimistic about the continued growth of tokenization, focusing on bringing the massive $2.2 quadrillion of traditional assets into the digital realm. They discuss the critical need for transparency, community involvement, and technological simplification to drive widespread adoption of tokenized assets.The conversation provides a comprehensive look at how blockchain technology is transforming asset ownership, making it more accessible, fractional, and transparent for investors and businesses alike.Participants:Jonny Fry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyfry/?originalSubdomain=ukPhilipp Pieper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipppieper/Erich Schnoeckel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erichschnoeckel/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

In this episode, Jonny Fry (TeamBlockchain) sits down with Alex Bausch (2Tokens) to explore the real-world adoption of tokenization and blockchain technology. They discuss how 2Tokens has supported industries like finance, energy, and logistics in leveraging digital assets to solve funding challenges—without the hype of early ICOs.From the Port of Rotterdam’s tokenized bills of lading to regulatory sandboxes and crowdfunding innovations, Alex and Jonny break down how blockchain is transforming traditional financial systems. They also highlight the 2Tokens masterclasses, which provide hands-on education for professionals looking to implement tokenization in their businesses.All in all, this episode offers valuable insights into the next wave of blockchain-powered finance.Participants: Alex Bausch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbausch/Jonny Fry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyfry/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

In this episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we dive into the commercial applications of blockchain technology, particularly in the supply chain industry. We're joined by Aljosja from Doc Lab and Juliun from Stability Protocol. The conversation is led by Jonny Fry, CEO of TeamBlockchain. Together they discuss how blockchain can enable the digital transfer of ownership for critical trade documents like bills of lading, inventory receipts, and certificates of origin. We explore the unique properties of blockchain that make it well-suited for these use cases, such as transparency, security, and reduced costs. The conversation also covers the legal and technological challenges involved in transitioning from paper-based to digital trade documents, as well as the potential for integrating blockchain with IoT and AI to enhance supply chain visibility and efficiency. Whether you're a supply chain professional, a blockchain enthusiast, or simply curious about the real-world applications of this emerging technology, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to learn how blockchain is transforming the way global trade and logistics operate.Participants: Juliun Brabon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliun/Aljosja Beije: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aljosjabeije/?originalSubdomain=nlJonny Fry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyfry/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

We’ve made it to 100 episodes, and what better way to celebrate than with an in-depth discussion on the future of blockchain and tokenization? In this special episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we bring together industry experts to explore key trends shaping the space.We've asked the experts in our community the following questions: 👉 How are business going to use blockchain to improve their operations? 👉 What trends do you think will influence the adoption of tokenization in 2025?👉 Why, or why not should companies embrace tokenization/blockchain to unlock the value?👉 What are your personal goals for 2025 to stimulate the usage of blockchain technology?Some of the answers include:✅ The rise of tokenization in finance – How major players like BlackRock and State Street are leveraging tokenized funds to enhance asset transfers.✅ Tokenization’s role in energy & carbon credits – Unlocking new efficiencies and sustainability solutions.✅ Zero-knowledge proofs & regulatory clarity – How privacy-focused technologies and clearer regulations will drive blockchain adoption.✅ Stablecoins & the payments revolution – Why decentralized finance is transforming global transactions.✅ AI, automation & the future of work – The impact of emerging technologies on businesses and economies.We also outline key action items, including continued work on the energy working group project, collaboration with the Ethereum Foundation, and exploring new tokenization use cases by 2025.Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, our host Erich Schnoeckel sits down with industry leaders Jan Dijkstra from Greenivity and Robert van Mölken of ExoBlock to discuss the potential of tokenizing renewable energy certificates (RECs). Together, they explore how blockchain and decentralized technology can bring new levels of transparency, trust, and efficiency to the renewable energy market while empowering global communities.Key topics covered include:🌍 What are RECs, SRECs, and GOs? – Learn how renewable energy certificates work, their origins from initiatives like the Kyoto Protocol, and their role in promoting the use of green energy.⚡ Tokenization and Trust – Discover how tokenizing RECs ensures their authenticity, combats greenwashing, and introduces traceability through blockchain technology.📈 Global REC Markets – A breakdown of how REC markets operate in the US, Europe, and Africa, highlighting challenges like centralized systems, pricing disparities, and regulatory differences.🔗 Decentralization and Innovation – Explore how decentralizing REC trading can empower energy communities, reduce intermediaries, and create fairer markets for both large and small-scale producers.🌞 Scaling Sustainability in Emerging Markets – A look at opportunities in regions like Africa, where abundant solar energy and community-driven initiatives could benefit from tokenized energy systems.This episode also addresses the technical and financial challenges of implementing decentralized exchanges for RECs, the role of calibrated IoT sensors in creating trust, and the potential impact on global carbon reduction goals.Participants:Erich Schnoeckel https://www.linkedin.com/in/erichschnoeckel/Jan Dijkstra https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-dijkstra-547a232/Robert van Mölken https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertvanmolken/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

This episode of the 2Tokens podcast features an in-depth discussion on the energy sector and the role of new platforms and technologies. The speakers include Jos Roling, captain of the 2Tokens Energy working group, Kennard Brandenburgh, CCO of Distro Energy, and Edgar Kampers, CEO of Hypha Energy, which specializes in the governance of energy hubs and communities. This week's discussion covers topics such as the approach to optimizing energy usage by connecting to real-time markets and changing physical behavior, and the importance of involving end users in local energy production and consumption. The interaction between energy management systems and platforms like Distro Energy is also discussed, as well as the data privacy and asset ownership considerations for energy communities. Hypha Energy's work on developing target operating models and governance structures for these communities is also highlighted. This Episode provides insights into the evolving energy landscape, the role of new platforms and technologies, and the shift towards more decentralized, community-driven energy systems. You can expect to learn about the challenges and opportunities in this space, as well as the future ambitions of the companies involved.Participants:Kennard C. Brandenburgh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kcbrandenburgh/Edgar Kampers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edgarkampers/Jos Röling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josroling/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/

This episode of the 2Tokens podcast features a discussion on using web3 and blockchain technology to drive customer engagement and build unique communities. The participants include Wouter Kloosterman, founder and CEO of Authic Labs, and Jasper Verbeet, co-founder and CTO of Byont Labs.The conversation covers a range of topics, including Authic Labs' new loyalty application that incorporates web3 elements, the challenges of onboarding users to web3, and examples of successful projects that leverage NFTs and tokenized assets to engage communities.Key highlights include:- Strategies for making web3 technology accessible to mainstream users without overwhelming them with technical details- Use cases for tokenizing physical assets like watches and wine to create permanent records of ownership and enable secondary markets- How companies are building unique communities around tokenized assets - The potential for blockchain to serve as a backend infrastructure while the focus remains on customer engagement and loyaltyThe discussion provides insights into the evolving role of web3 in enhancing customer experiences and fostering engaged communities, moving beyond the hype to focus on practical applications.ParticipantsErich Schnoeckel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erichschnoeckel/Jasper Verbeet: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasperverbeet/ Wouter Kloosterman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wouter-kloosterman-0a492abb/Do you want to join one of the use cases? Contact us via info@2tokens.org Read more on our blog 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/news Follow us on LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/company/2tokens/mycompany/?viewAsMember=trueTwitter 👉 https://twitter.com/2tokens_org?s=20 Website 👉 https://www.2tokens.org/