
Activate your Allyship Featuring Flo Kesselheim and CJ Shank
Join the Women in Seed Production Network for a special episode of the WiSPER Loud podcast. In this episode our hosts lead a candid panel discussion with guests Flo Kesselheim and CJ Shank focused on navigating the journey of allyship. CJ defines allyship as intentionally leveraging one's privilege and access to support others, famously simplified by his daughter’s advice. The conversation explores common pitfalls, such as passive allyship and the "shame loop" caused by personal privilege, while emphasizing the importance of advocating for all marginalized groups. To show up consistently, the guests suggest practical tactics like intentionally directing the spotlight toward others' ideas, and Flo talks about practicing the concept of "take space, make space." The panel also provides guidance on handling feedback with grace when allyship falls short, encouraging listeners to move past guilt by asking colleagues what success looks like in the future. Finally, listeners are challenged to activate their allyship today by seeking out diverse perspectives through new media and directly asking their teams for feedback on how they are showing up. You don’t want to miss this extraordinary conversation!













