52. Brandon and Jess Jackson on The Practice of Proximity
In this week's episode, Grace and Andrew sit down with Jess and Brandon Jackson, Co-Pastors of On Ramps Covenant Church, who live in the Lowell neighborhood they serve. They discuss why physical proximity is the most radical act a leader can perform and what their neighbors have taught them about resilience, faith, and joy. This episode explores the vital shift from trying to "fix" a community from the outside to living with it from the inside. They also tackle the tough choices between pursuing scale versus depth, and how to carry the weight of seeing suffering up close. Brandon Jackson is the Co-Lead Pastor of On Ramps Covenant Church in Fresno’s Lowell neighborhood, where he serves alongside his wife, Jess. Together, they are passionate about following Jesus, loving their neighborhood well, and helping create pathways for spiritual growth, leadership development, and community transformation. Brandon especially loves investing in the next generation and building relationships that help people grow into all God has for them. Jess Jackson is the co pastor of On Ramps Covenant Church. She’s passionate about building Jesus-centered communities marked by shared life, justice and deep belonging. Her heart is to see people encounter God in real transformative ways, locally and globally. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices




