What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath

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Jun 2026

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Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do.

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June 16, 2026Episode 7338 min

An Airline Pilot

Shooting cat-three landings in the fog, using the “voice of God” on unruly passengers, and declaring Mayday after an engine fire with Paul Drusch, a commercial airline pilot. Why does the pilot’s paycheck start with the parking brake? And what does “sterile cockpit” mean? (Spoiler: it doesn’t mean “clean.”)WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

June 9, 202617 min

(Bonus) From StoryCorps: "Sideliners"

Athletes get all the glory, but there are countless people around them making the games happen - from referees making judgments, to vendors in the stands hawking snacks and beer. In this episode from The StoryCorps Podcast, drawn from our archive of the largest single collection of human voices ever recorded, you’ll hear from the people on the sidelines.WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

June 2, 2026Episode 7240 min

A Clinical Ethicist

Untangling who gets to speak for a dying patient, weighing a treatment's benefits against its burdens, and searching for clarity in the grayest corners of healthcare with Esther Berkowitz, a clinical ethicist. What is the "dignity of risk"? And how do you know which "version" of a person to trust?WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

May 19, 2026Episode 7135 min

A Correctional Officer

Grinding through 16-hour shifts, standing behind inmates (never in front), and trying to stay human in an inhuman environment with Bill Farrell, a correctional officer in Massachusetts. What happens when an officer gets "frozen"? And why does the sound of scuffling sneakers stop him in his tracks?LINKS & REFERENCESBill was the co-creator of a short documentary about the physical and mental toll of being a correctional officer. It's called "Behind The Wall".WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

May 5, 2026Episode 7035 min

A Custom Harvester

Harvesting five million bushels of wheat and corn from Texas to Montana, outrunning hailstorms that decimate a year's income in 20 minutes, and running a multimillion-dollar convoy of equipment down the highway with Josh Beckley, a third-generation custom harvester from Kansas. Why do farmers outsource the harvesting of their own crops? And what happens when you drive a combine into a ditch?WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

April 21, 2026Episode 6937 min

A Funeral Director

Guiding grieving families through arrangement meetings, orchestrating meaningful memorial services within days, and preparing bodies for viewing with Heather Hill, a funeral director in North Carolina. What's different about doing makeup on a dead person? And what is it like to field a death call?LINKS & REFERENCESHeather writes about her work on her website.She's a funeral director at Renaissance Funeral Home in Raleigh, North Carolina."The Future is Female" - American Funeral Director on the surge of women graduating from mortuary school WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

April 7, 2026Episode 6837 min

An Aerospace Engineer

Landing the Perseverance rover on Mars, working in clean rooms to minimize the microbial bug count, and slogging through hundreds of engineering trade-offs with Swati Mohan, an aerospace engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. What are the "seven minutes of terror"? And is there evidence of past life on Mars?LINKS & REFERENCES:Watch Swati voice the landing of Perseverance in 2021.Swati's official NASA bioMore about the Perseverance roverSwati Mohan spoke with us in a personal capacity. The views expressed in this episode are her own and do not represent the views of NASA, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, or any other organization.WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

March 24, 2026Episode 6734 min

A Diplomat

Defusing a crisis after an ambassador hinted at a preemptive strike on Russia, delivering demarches in multiple languages, and surviving the frantic evacuation of the Kabul embassy with John Johnson, a retired diplomat who spent more than twenty years in the US Foreign Service. Do diplomats still send "cables" in the 21st century? And what does "not/not" mean?WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

March 10, 2026Episode 6630 min

A Lineman

Wiring a neighborhood back to life after a tornado, coveting the work of helicopter linemen in Faraday suits, and surviving the collapse of a rotten utility pole with Elden Rivas, a journeyman lineman in Houston, Texas. What is the one sound on the crew radio that stops every lineman cold? And why does a squirrel on a transformer mean easy money?WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

February 24, 2026Episode 6530 min

A Health Inspector

Suspending the licenses of unsafe restaurant operators, hunting down the origins of foodborne illness outbreaks, and eliciting truthful answers from anxious managers with Justin Dwyer, a health inspector in Peoria, Illinois. What happens when a restaurant locks the door on an inspector? And why should you never wash your Thanksgiving turkey?LINKS & REFERENCESUpstream: The Quest to Solve Problems Before They Happen by Dan Heath. You can find the audiobook at Audible, Spotify, and Apple Books.The Poison Squad by Deborah BlumThe Jungle by Upton SinclairUSDA: To Wash Or Not to Wash Your TurkeyWANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back catalogue.GOT A COMMENT OR SUGGESTION? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES: Email us at partnerships@whatitslike.comWANT TO BE ON THE SHOW? Leave us a voicemail at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions:1. What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?2. What’s a specific story you tell your friends that happened on the job? It could be funny, sad, anxiety-making, pride-inducing or otherwise.We can’t respond to every message, but we do listen to all of them! We’ll follow up if it's a good fit.

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