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What Happens In Between

mercurial process of creating something meaningful, between taking your first steps to develop your idea and mastery. Each episode, the conversation centers on the guest’s process of developing or deepening relationship to creation. Join Athena Sayaka for weekly installments and learn how others are navigating the unsexy parts of creating a platform.


artists, and creators who have a burning desire to impact their world, but don’t necessarily have all the answers yet. Come along with us as we discuss the plans, the missteps, and the feelings of moving blindly forwardIn each episode, you’ll find key takeaways, and the understanding/reminder that you are not alone in your struggle.


Each interview focuses on the space between, whether hearing from an emerging creator or an established expert, the conversation is always focused on process.



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Last Episode Date: 1 May 2024

Total Episodes: 76

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1 May 2024
Cultural Worker x Transplant Survivor x Agender with Walela Nehanda

Episode Summary: In this week’s episode of What Happens In Between, I sit down with Walela Nehanda, a cultural worker, transplant survivor, and agender writer who created their debut book, Bless the Blood - A Cancer Memoir as an archive for Black, Young, and Disabled ...

53 min
17 April 2024
Black Woman x Free Spirit with Shavon Swain

Episode Summary: In this week’s episode of What Happens In Between, I sit down with Shavon Swain, a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker (LICSW) with over 10 years of experience working in the mental health field. Shavon helps us understand that the layers of c...

58 min
3 April 2024
Poetic x Empathy Driven Curiosity with Xenia Viray

Episode Summary: In this week’s episode of What Happens In Between, I sit down with Xenia Viray, Imagination Healer, Multidimensional Artist, and Community Weaver focused on facilitating workshops and writing. Xenia expands our perspective of relationship dynamics, in...

48 min
20 March 2024
Black x Multiple AuDHD x Creative Activist with Ben-Oní

*CORRECTION: Neuroexpansive is a term coined and trademarked by Ngozi Alston.Episode Summary:In this episode of What Happens In Between, I sit down with Ben-Oní, a neuroexpansive clinical psych doctoral student, orator, writer, and Black disability justice activist. Ben-On...

48 min
6 March 2024
Community Curator with OlaRonke Akinmowo

In this week’s episode of What Happens In Between, I sit down with Ola Akinmowo, the Founder, Curator, and Creator of The Free Black Women's Library: a Black feminist literary hub and community care space that features a collection of over 5000 books written by Black women...

58 min
21 February 2024
Shifting Narratives x Black Adventuring with Courtney Lanctot of The Unpopular Black

In this week’s episode of What Happens In Between, I sit down with Courtney Lanctot, the founder of The Unpopular Black, a platform built to inspire and educate the Black community to adventure the American outdoors. Courtney’s work serves as both representation and a sp...

53 min
7 February 2024
Biracial x Partially Blind x Introvert with Karyn Paige

Episode SummaryWelcome to Season Three of What Happens in Between, which will focus on multiplicity and how we develop the rich, internal narratives of who we are. In this week’s episode, I sit down with Karyn Paige, a certified human design practitioner — and self-procl...

49 min
31 January 2024
Season 3 Trailer

mercurial process of creating something beautiful. Join Athena for biweekly explorations of the layered thinking, feeling, and living process — where complexities come untied, yet aren’t seen as unhinged. Season 3’s focus is Multiplicity and how we develop the interna...

1 min
22 June 2022
Season 2 Recap

Athena discusses the best way to stay in touch while you wait for Season 3 and shares key takeaways from each episode.Listen to the private podcast HEREFollow Us:InstagramWebsite Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

4 min
15 June 2022
How Focusing On The Feelings (Instead Of The Outcome) Creates Lasting Joy with Shirin Eskandani

Welcome to this week’s episode of What Happens in Between where Shirin Eskandani, a certified life coach and alchemist, busts the myth about building your dream life. It’s easy to constantly look to the next big thing to finally make you feel fulfilled. But the truth is,...

48 min
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