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Waters Wavelength

Waters Wavelength

Hosted by WatersTechnology

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Episodes

360

Latest episode

Oct 2026

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EN

About the show

Wei-Shen Wong and Anthony Malakian discuss the hottest financial technology topics in the capital markets every week.

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October 23, 202641 min

Episode 360: Innovation, regulation, and exposure

Tony and Shen discuss Tony’s latest column and a New Yorker article by Jill Lepore. The conversation then shifts to our varied levels of exposure to technology. https://www.waterstechnology.com/regulation/7953315/ai-regulation-whos-responsible-for-eliminating-gray-areas

October 8, 202620 min

Episode 359: GPU compute market and Sibos

Shen and Nyela chat about their recent two-part feature on the budding GPU compute market. Then, Nyela gives an overview of what went down at Sibos 2026, held in Miami. https://www.waterstechnology.com/trading-tech/7953251/the-gpu-compute-index-race-begins https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953259/gpu-compute-derivatives-are-put-to-the-test

September 10, 202648 min

Episode 358: Tradeweb’s Chris Bruner

To start on a somber note, this Friday will mark the 25th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on 9/11. WatersTechnology was hosting its first-ever event at Windows on the World at the top of the North Tower. Click here to read our memorial article: https://www.waterstechnology.com/comment/7874671/911-the-colleagues-we-lost-and-the-years-that-followed This week’s guest is Chris Bruner, chief product officer at Tradeweb. (0:00) – Tony vents about a recent PR incident (13:00) – Chris joins the podcast and explains why Tradeweb got into the prediction markets game. [This is Chris’ second time on the show. Here is his previous episode: https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7952471/waters-wavelength-ep-320-tradeweb%E2%80%99s-chris-bruner] (17:00) – Why is it a necessity to incorporate this data onto the Tradeweb platform, rather than the customer going directly to the prediction markets provider? (19:00) – How is this data different than sentiment data coming from, say, Reddit, X, or Facebook? (22:00) – What were some of the lessons learned along the way? [Hint: agentic AI enters the chat] (25:30) – What improvements need to be made around metadata and lineage to combine this new feed with existing datafeeds and services? (30:00) – Fixed income has been electronifying for quite some time now, but progress in certain areas remains slow. At the same time, though, in just a few years the market has gone from generative AI to agents starting to act autonomously. What unique challenges and opportunities does that rapid technological evolution present to fixed-income markets? (36:00) – For a chief product officer, how do you balance governance with being innovation-forward? (40:00) – What are some of the infrastructure hurdles related to overnight trading that people need to start thinking about now?

August 28, 202642 min

Episode 357: Off topic, on record

It’s the last week of August. Tony, Reb, and Shen get together to chat about movies, TV series, music, and books. Listeners, be warned: this episode contains profanity.

August 7, 202639 min

Episode 356: When software fails

Tony and Shen go through this story about Nasdaq’s trade surveillance software failing to send alerts. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953177/red-alert-how-nasdaqs-smarts-became-surveillance-blind-spot

July 2, 202638 min

Episode 355: Faculty’s David Bholat

This week’s guest is David Bholat, director for professional and financial services at Faculty. (0:00) – Shen talks about her recent trip to Vietnam (8:00) – David joins the podcast (10:30) – Pilot purgatory (15:30) – Focus on the integration quality (20:30) – Steps for successful production (25:00) – The right case may not be the sexiest (28:00) – What exactly are agents (35:00) – David’s hope for the future of financial services

June 19, 202635 min

Episode 354: Vibing on vibe coding

It’s just Tony and Shen this week. They discuss Tony’s latest feature about vibe coding. https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953113/vibe-coding-is-burning-us-out

June 4, 202639 min

Episode 353: ExeQution Analytics’s Cat Turley

This week’s guest is Cat Turley, CEO and founder of ExeQution Analytics. She joins the podcast to discuss the gap between investment data and trading alpha. (0:00) – Shen has a cold (5:30) – Cat joins the podcast (9:00) – Challenges in getting context from data (14:30) – Techs vs. traders vs. quants (18:30) – Minimizing day-to-day friction (22:00) – Macro and micro (28:30) – Measuring ROI (34:00) – Putting a process in place (36:00) – AI’s role

May 22, 202647 min

Episiode 352: Agentic workflows, AI bootcamps, regulation, and faves from Seoul

Tony catches Shen up on all the stories WatersTechnology published while she was on vacation. Stories mentioned: https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953074/symphony-introduces-agentic-workflows-to-core-platform https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953080/factsets-vectorization-service-aims-to-improve-agent-accuracy https://www.waterstechnology.com/regulation/7953083/ai-governance-rules-coming-soon-says-cftc-chair https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953077/bootcamps-and-peer-pressure-goldman-preps-staff-for-ai-future https://www.waterstechnology.com/data-management/7953000/genai-and-data-quality-converge-at-t-rowe-prices-data-lake-como?ref=header-search https://www.waterstechnology.com/emerging-technologies/7953079/defi-and-tradfi-firms-are-borrowing-each-others-benefits https://www.waterstechnology.com/regulation/7953050/hitting-the-great-wall-details-scarce-on-chinas-xinchuang-initiative

April 29, 202639 min

Episode 351: MarketAxess’s Lee and Alexandre

This week, Spencer Lee, head of products, Americas, and Julien Alexandre, global head of research at MarketAxess, join the podcast to discuss AI in fixed income trading. https://www.waterstechnology.com/market-access/technology/7950305/waters-wavelength-podcast-fixed-income-execution-innovation?ref=search https://www.marketaxess.com/explore/the-state-of-ai-survey-findings (0:00) – Tony recounts the NFL draft week (8:00) – Spencer and Julien join the podcast (11:30) – How AI is making sense of data coming from different sources (17:30) – Evolution of AI in fixed income (22:00) – Where AI has the most measurable impact (24:30) – How to trade and what to trade (30:00) – Agentic vs algo (33:30) – AI sentiment index

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