The [un]phased unedited podcast is an unabashed deep dive into the complicated nature of who’s in and who’s out -- in every industry. Hosted by Dr. Shaunna Payne Gold and Dr. Lisa Ingarfield, the [un]phased unedited podcast sheds the glossy, sexy, high production delivery to get down to the messy, uncomfortable, and fundamental conversations affecting human beings in all places and spaces. Join us as we think aloud together!. [un]phased is unedited and unfiltered allowing listeners to journey with the co-hosts as they discuss difficult topics
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June 16, 2026Episode 24647 min
Wildfire
The Drs. open this week's episode hot and unapologetic: a gender-reveal smoke bomb turned into a months-long inferno, a firefighter lost his life, and three companies suddenly write checks for more than $4 million. Then they pivot to the political tightrope -- authenticity vs. electability -- and ask whether moderates who vote with the sketchy are doing the right thing in the moment.Listen in for new language like "abromantic", the deeper implication of gender reveals around the globe, and the ethics of voting for a flawed candidate.Mentioned in the show:3 companies agree to over $4 million settlement after deadly California wildfire - CNNThe Democrats’ Platner Problem - Time'What else are we going to do?' Maine Democrats divided over Platner, some stick with him reluctantly – abc NewsYet More Damning Revelations About Graham Platner - The AtlanticThe Graham Platner Dilemma - The Powers That Be Daily Podcast
June 9, 2026Episode 24536 min
Adaptive Intelligence
In this episode, Dr. Shaunna and Dr. Lisa examine language in a new way. First, they look at Elsa Mehary's provocative Instagram reel regarding what it means to be a polymath—someone with a wide range of knowledge or learning—and ask a provocative question: Are you a polymath, or just Black? It's always a good time to examine what’s celebrated as “genius” in one space that may be dismissed as “survival” in another.Later, Shaunna and Lisa pivot to immigration policy, reflecting on Jonathan Blitzer’s Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here and his recent New Yorker piece on how executive actions are reshaping who gets to become -- AND STAY -- American. They connect the dots between adaptive intelligence and survival systems—whether in identity, migration, or belonging.Tune in for a layered conversation about pattern recognition, the politics of brilliance, and the powers that affect immigrants. Mentioned in the showFor the Nation's Birthday, Making it Harder to Become American – The New YorkerEveryone Who is Gone is Here – Jonathan Blitzer
June 2, 2026Episode 24451 min
The Odyssey
Before your listen, take your SAT...Spoiler Alert: If you plan to see The Odyssey this podcast has spoilers.Alert: This episode mentions how control manifests in faith communitiesThink: Hopefully, this episode will make you think! This week, we have a thoughtful, sometimes funny, but always honest conversation about why we believe what we believe — and who gets to tell us what’s true. We discuss social proof, and how it may be a low-key form of group think because millions of followers don't equal expertise.Then we move on to spiritual control, and how childhood faith patterns can follow us into adulthood. Anxiety, perfectionism, spiritual OCD and other symptoms can remind us of how spirituality can be used to control rather than to liberate.Finally, we talk about the overwhelming outrage that bubbles up when fictional characters are cast in ways that interrupt homogenous and exclusionary thinking. Lupita Nyong’o as Helen of Troy, Elliot Page as Achilles, and Quinta Brunson as Betty Boop are some of the most recent examples of how creative license can tick people off.Loved the conversation or want to keep the work going? Subscribe, leave a 5-star review, and tell a friend who needs to hear this. If this episode landed for you, share one insight on social and tag us — we’ll repost the best reflections.Mentioned in the showThe Hidden Wound: Intersecting Spiritual Abuse and Racial Trauma in African American Faith Communities – Black Crescent Wellness FoundationThe right’s outrage over Elliot Page’s casting in ‘The Odyssey’ obscures Achilles’ own queernessQuinta Brunson to Develop and Star in ‘Betty Boop’ Feature Film From Fleischer Studios and Fifth Chance Productions - VarietyThe Absurd Misunderstanding Fueling the Debate Over The Odyssey - The AtlanticWhy Can’t Elon Musk Shut Up about Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey - Vanity FairChristopher Nolan Has Been Dreaming of The Odyssey for More Than 20 Years - TimeThe Odyssey Trailer
May 26, 2026Episode 24346 min
Michael, Money, and Mayhem
Before your listen, take your SAT...Spoiler Alert: If you plan to see Michael, the movie, this podcast has several spoilers.Alert: This episode mentions a high-profile legal case. All acts are alleged while the case is pending. contenT Warning: We also discuss various forms of abuse. Although several movies and mini-series have come before, we were excited to reflect on the latest movie, Michael. It features Jaafar Jackson, nephew of the icon himself as well as many high profile African American stars. We take a sonic time-travel from Jackson 5 in the 1960s to the Bad tour of the 1980s. We also pose some serious questions about what constitutes abuse.Then, we turn to a jaw-dropping legal settlement between the government and the…government. The president of these DIVIDED States of America has created an anti-weaponization fund of 1.8 Billion (with a B) dollars to address alleged "lawfare" by the Biden Administration -- making us revisit the definition of gaslighting as part of the optics and mechanics of political theater.If you liked this episode, subscribe, leave a rating, and tell a friend who loves movies and messy headlines. Mentioned in the showNia Long, Colman Domingo and Jaafar Jackson On ‘Michael’ Biopic and Jackson Legacy - ForbesMaking Michael – EssenceThey Don’t Make Celebrities Like Michael Jackson Anymore – Jemele Hill, The AtlanticJustice Dept. Sets Up $1.8 Billion Fund That Could Funnel Money to Trump Allies - NYTDOJ rolls out nearly $1.8B ‘anti-weaponization fund’ as part of Trump’s IRS settlement - PoliticoJudge questions legal basis for Trump's $10 billion case against IRS – NBC News
May 19, 2026Episode 24250 min
The Obamalisk
In this week's episode, the hosts touch on the notion of jawboning as a means of political coercion and the Obama Presidential Center - the 8-story, 225-foot-tall museum tower designed for community in ways that the other presidential centers have not accomplished. Lastly, the Drs deep dive into the theory of colorblindness using the Voting Rights Act as a backdrop. It can make intuitive sense to people, but the Drs argue it actually perpetuates inequality.Mentioned in the showThe ‘Obamalisk’ Rises on Chicago’s South Side - NYTWelcome to the Obama FoundationRacial Color Blindness: Emergence, Practice, and Implications – The Association of Psychological ScienceVoters Can Be Disenfranchised Now – Adam Serwer, The AtlanticJohn Roberts Believes in an America That Doesn’t Exist – Jamelle Bouie, NYT Opinion
May 12, 2026Episode 24151 min
RIP VRA
In yet another week of U.S. damage reporting, Dr. Lisa and Dr. Shaunna discuss the recent gutting of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. First, we talk about the appropriately timed colloquialism, "86". Then Justice Kagan gives a scathing dissent to the 6-3 SCOTUS decision in Louisiana v. Callais that effectively signs off on the disenfranchisement of Black citizens through recent nationwide battles around gerrymandering.On a final lighthearted note, there are new Oscars rules regarding AI performances and AI-authored screenplays as the industry tries to keep up with technology as it speeds ahead.Mentioned in the ShowAsk George: Where Does the Term “86’d” Come From? – St Louis MagazineHow the Supreme Court Demolished the Voting Rights Act – The New YorkerVoters Can Be Disenfranchised Now – The AtlanticBreaking: SCOTUS Deals Another Blow to Multi Racial Democracy – Strict Scrutiny podcastLouisiana v. Callais Opinion - SCOTUS
May 5, 2026Episode 24056 min
Who Loses?
In this episode, we explore the concept of "collective effervescence" -- the shared emotional release people feel during major moments -- using the splashdown of Artemis II, religious worship, and sports as examples.Then we turn to youth sports and the growing cost barriers. Despite the collective cheers, dads have holes in their shoes and moms are wearing the same bras they wore during the first Obama administration to give kids access. Senator Cory Booker sounds the alarm regarding equitable access to play.Our second phase is on political strategy and the role of centrism. We question what will happen if we appeal to the political "middle" at the expense of marginalized voices and what it looks like to be fluent in nuance, curiosity, and dialogue rather than ideology alone. Together, we wrestle with questions of compromise, consensus, and community—asking how societies can pursue shared wins without continually placing the heaviest losses on those with the least power.Mentioned in showHow Youth Sports Became a Magnet for Private Equity - StoutThe Focus Group Podcast - The BulwarkAmerica's Divisions: Getting on Our Nerves (with Jessica Tarlov) – The Focus Group Podcast
April 28, 2026Episode 23947 min
Solopreneurship
As a prelude to National Small Business Week, Dr. Lisa puts Dr. Shaunna in the hot seat. We know that U.S. entrepreneurs and small business owners make major contributions to local economy and beyond, yet we rarely take stock of the additional challenges for women and people of color as entrepreneurs. In this unique episode, we take the time to celebrate the 10th Anniversary of Gold Enterprises with an impromptu interview on the highs and lows of solopreneurship.Also, read more about Gold Enterprises the Golden Years: 10 Business Lessons in 10 Years bundle!Purchase today at: Gold Enterprises, LLC
April 21, 2026Episode 23844 min
Strong Black Women and the Supreme Court
This week, we have a tight, candid conversation about the Superwoman Syndrome, the Strong Black Woman Schema and Actively Black, as well as medical speech and the Supreme Court.Ahhh, some Black women are not here for the perennial weight of being superwomen, strong, or magical! We discuss the wildly popular athleisure clothing brand "Actively Black" and address a split opinion for and against their "Black Women are Superheroes Collection." Then, we touch upon SCOTUS’s pending birthright citizenship decision and their Chiles v. Salazar decision on state conversion therapy bans and medical-speech regulation. If this episode lands for you, share it, rate it, and tell a friend who needs to hear this conversation.Mentioned in the show:Unveiling the Strong Black Woman Schema-Evolution and Impact: A Systematic Review – Clinical Nursing ResearchChiles v. Salazar (2026) – Supreme Court opinionChiles v. Salazar Explainer – The Trevor ProjectThe Dangers of Conversion Therapy – The Trevor Project
April 14, 2026Episode 23747 min
Space Scam
In this episode, we start with the Word of the Week: Toxic Productivity and how it fuels (see what we did there?) workplace burnout through the American grind culture. Then we discuss the Artemis II mission, especially how it's equally awe-inspiring and anxiety-inducing. (Challenger kids, unite!). Finally, we discuss System 1 and System 2 thinking, including who's most vulnerable to scams, shortcuts, and shiny promises.This episode is part space‑nerd wonder, part sociological deep dive, and part “wait…why are we like this?” conversation. Equal parts humor, honesty, and hard questions—just how we like it.🎧 Listen if you’ve ever:- Held your breath during a rocket launch- Wondered why exhaustion is praised as a personality trait- Fallen down a cult‑podcast rabbit holeQuestioned whether your instincts are protecting you or limiting you- No scripts. No polish. Just curiosity, caution, and commentary.Mentioned in the showBeyond the grind: Toxic productivity and how it sabotages your well-being - Harvard HealthArtemis II lunar fly by pictures - NASAWe choose our cults everyday - The Atlantic (2021)Amanda Montell - Cultish
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