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Trust and Trade

Trust and Trade

Hosted by American Bar Association, Antitrust Law Section

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61

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Jun 2026

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Deep dives into the worlds of competition, privacy, and consumer protection from a rotating panel of experts.

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June 15, 2026Episode 6035 min

#60 Impact of U.S. Trade Policy on Investment in Canada

When President Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada, one of its biggest trading partners, it kicked off a series of back-and-forth tariffs between the two countries. As a result of the ensuing uncertainty, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has emphasized the importance of reducing Canada's reliance on the United States as a trading partner, announcing a new trade deal with China during a recent visit to Beijing. Does this signal a shift in the Canada-U.S. trade relationship, and create new opportunities for Chinese companies looking to do business in Canada? Canada's former Chief Trade Negotiator Steve Verheul and Blakes' Brian Facey join host Anant Raut to discuss developments in Canada's trade relationship with the U.S., and how this impacts foreign direct investment in Canada. With special guests: Brian A. Facey, Partner, Blake, Cassels & Graydon LLP and Steve Verheul, Principal, GT & Company Hosted by: Anant Raut

May 25, 2026Episode 5944 min

#59 Mergernomics: Killer Acquisitions

What exactly do we mean by the term "killer acquisitions," and how are those deals analyzed any differently by antitrust enforcers? In this episode, host Anant Raut talks to economist Dr. Ethel Fonseca of RBB Economics and antitrust attorney Danny Mader of Hogan Lovells LLP about how potential "killer acquisitions" get reviewed by competition agencies, using real-world examples such as Sabre/Farelogix, Visa/Plaid, and Facebook/Instagram. They explore the complexities of merger analysis, the nuances of potential competition, and how the same deal can have different outcomes in the US and the UK. With special guests: Dr. Ethel Fonseca, Partner, RBB Economics and Daniel Mader, Senior Associate, Hogan Lovells LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut

April 6, 2026Episode 5820 min

#58 Mergernomics: How Tariffs Redefine Product Markets

How do tariffs redefine product markets? In this episode, economist Dr. Craig Malam and antitrust expert Carla Hine join host Anant Raut to discuss the effect of the Trump Administration's tariff-centric trade policy on how we determine the edges of a product market and what constitutes a substitutable product. Panelists then talk about what economists and defense counsel should take into account when the size and duration of a tariff can change with a social media post. With special guests: Dr. Craig Malam, Partner, Edgeworth Economics and Carla Hine, Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut

March 9, 2026Episode 5745 min

#57 Mergernomics: Extending Market Power

Enforcers and policymakers have raised concerns that dominant firms like Google, Microsoft, NVIDIA, and Meta are extending their market power into AI by taking stakes in some of the most promising startups. In this episode, economist Dr. Elizabeth Wang and antitrust litigator Daniel Culley join me to discuss how economists measure the risk that a dominant firm could acquire its way into dominance in another market, as well as how to spot flaws in those projections. With special guests: Daniel Culley, Partner, Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP and Dr. Elizabeth Wang, Partner and Head of the China Practice, Econic Partners, LLC Hosted by: Anant Raut

February 9, 2026Episode 5639 min

#56 The Resurgence of Private Antitrust Litigation in the Asia Pacific

What's behind the rise of private antitrust litigation in the Asia Pacific? Host Anant Raut talks to experts Kirsten Webb and Toshiaki Tada about the resurgence of follow-on cartel litigation in Japan and abuse of a dominant position cases in Australia. They also discuss the impact of Big Tech litigation, the complexities of proving damages, and the propensity towards settlements. Listen to learn more about how these trends could completely invert global litigation strategy for private plaintiffs! With special guests: Kirsten Webb, Partner, Clayton Utz and Toshiaki Tada, Partner, Hibiya Sogo Law Office Hosted by: Anant Raut

January 26, 2026Episode 5542 min

#55 Foreign Investment in the EU

The rules for foreign investment in Europe are changing. In this episode of Trust and Trade, Bryan Cave LLP's Christine Graham and AmCham EU's Andrew Hill join host Anant Raut to talk about the reasons behind the revisions - protecting critical assets and technologies, a need for uniformity across member states - and walk listeners through the intricate steps of the European legislative process. What do the changes mean, to whom will they apply, and when do they go into effect? Tune in to learn these answers and gain many more insights into the evolving legal framework that will dramatically impact cross-border transactions! With special guests: Christine Graham, Partner, Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner LLP and Andrew Hill, Senior Policy Advisor, AmCham EU Related Links: European Commission factsheet on changes to foreign investment screening,  Hosted by: Anant Raut

December 22, 2025Episode 5437 min

#54 Mergernomics: Efficiencies

In this latest episode in our Mergernomics series, we examine how attorneys and economists try to quantify the benefits of a merger, aka "efficiencies." Antitrust expert Brazil's Paula Camara and economist Silvia Faga de Almeida join host Anant Raut to discuss why efficiencies sometimes lower prices and why they sometimes don't, how economists measure them, which ones enforcers will accept and why, and how shifting policy priorities, such as protecting rather than firing employees, has changed what even counts as one.   With special guests: Silvia Faga de Almeida, Founding Partner, Ecoa Consultoria Economica and Paula Camara, Partner, Mattos Filho     Hosted by: Anant Raut

November 24, 2025Episode 5343 min

#53 Michael Jordan v NASCAR

Why is Michael Jordan's racing team suing NASCAR? MJ's 23XI team and Bob Jenkins' Front Row have been locked in a heated antitrust lawsuit with NASCAR over the charter system at the heart of the Cup Series, with the case set to go to trial on Dec 1, 2025. Brooklyn Law School Professor Jodi Balsam joins host Anant Raut and co-host Sathya Gosselin to talk about the history of NASCAR, the legal issues that remain to be decided, and how this monumental showdown between two of the biggest names in sports, in one of the biggest sports in the country, is likely to end. With special guest: Professor Jodi Balsam, Brooklyn Law School Hosted by: Anant Raut and Sathya Gosselin

October 27, 2025Episode 5239 min

#52 Regulating AI, Ep. 4: South Korea

How is South Korea reshaping AI regulation? In this episode, D&A's Yaera Jeon joins hosts Anant Raut, Rory Macmillan, and Nina Jayne Carroll to unpack South Korea's new AI Framework Act, the first comprehensive national AI regulation in Asia. They talk about its competing policy goals, broad extraterritorial reach, and compliance obligations for high-impact AI systems. They also discuss the government's recent guidance on the Act and whether it weakens the impact of the new regulations. With special guest: Yaera Jeon, Partner, D&A LLC Hosted by: Anant Raut, Rory Macmillan, and Nina Jayne Carroll

September 29, 2025Episode 5146 min

#51 What Makes a Price Illegal?

What makes the price charged by a digital platform illegal? Host Anant Raut talks to antitrust economists Tasneem Chipty and Michael Katz about the legality of high and low prices, cross-platform network effects, and contentious practices like predatory pricing and bundled discounts. Learn how antitrust law looks at MFNs, "free" online services, and two-sided markets in this spellbinding episode! With special guests: Dr. Tasneem Chipty, Founder, Chipty Economics LLC and Dr. Michael Katz, Professor Emeritus, Haas School of Business University of California Berkeley Hosted by: Anant Raut

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