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Talking about business, family, life, purpose and building habits to create the life you want. Deeply personal, emotive and powerful interviews with amazing people who have discovered and are living the REAL meaning of success. People who have the mindset of living a life that is bigger than them, creating a legacy and leaving the world in a better place.

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June 14, 2026Episode 391 hr 29 min

Live Life Peacefully: A Mother's Impossible Choice

At 10 years old, Karina lost her dad in a sudden accident with no support and no roadmap. Decades later, she would face something unimaginably worse — the loss of her daughter Sophie to a drowning accident, complicated by epilepsy and a seizure that came without warning on a Sunday afternoon while Karina was at the supermarket.What followed is one of the most extraordinary stories of grief, purpose, and deliberate resilience you will ever hear. Within hours of Sophie being declared brain dead, Karina chose to donate Sophie's organs — a decision made in 30 seconds that went on to save at least 10 lives. She then channelled every ounce of that loss into building something that would outlast her pain: The Sophie Effect, a children's grief program; a mentoring network for bereaved parents; speaking engagements from the Sunshine Coast Lightning netball team to 800-person forums; and eventually, a solo trek to Everest Base Camp carrying Sophie's ashes — nearly dying on the mountain before scattering them at the summit.This episode is raw, deeply honest, and filled with real strategies for surviving the unsurvivable. Karina doesn't just talk about grief — she shows you what it looks like to choose your way through it, one controlled decision at a time.00:00 Accident Aftermath Tease03:03 Podcast Welcome Intro03:55 Karina Background Legacy08:19 Epilepsy Early Seizures12:07 Pool Day Turns Tragic16:29 Hospital ICU Reality22:28 Brain Death Decision23:38 Organ Donation Choice31:13 Celebrating Sophies Life33:21 Living Life Peacefully38:37 Pushing Limits Everest40:31 Dangerous Roads Alone46:54 Bridges Panic Breakthrough50:52 Mindful Trek Beginnings51:22 Sacred Waters Lesson52:34 Unprocessed Grief Opens53:47 Monastery Tears Shift55:04 Altitude Sickness Fight57:30 Base Camp Farewell Ritual58:39 Donate Life Awareness01:01:37 Hospital Scare Aftermath01:04:34 Mentoring Through Grief01:06:38 Practical Dark Day Tools01:08:47 Letting Go Of Blame01:12:55 Senses And Control01:18:53 The Sophie Effect Mission01:21:25 Programs Awards Legacy01:26:05 Work Speaking New Projects01:29:12 Choice Legacy Closing

June 7, 2026Episode 401 hr 18 min

Eating Disorders Stole My Daughters. Here's What I Did

What if everything you thought you knew about eating disorders was wrong? In this powerful episode, Kingsley Colley sits down with Mark Forbes — co-founder of NDeD (Australia's first integrated eating disorder residential, day program, and accommodation village) — to unpack one of the most misunderstood mental health conditions affecting millions of people worldwide.Mark shares his deeply personal journey raising two daughters with eating disorders, the genetic science behind why it happens, and how a father's heartbreak became a world-first model of care. From the role of the MTHFR gene to groundbreaking research with North Carolina University, this episode will completely reshape the way you think about eating disorders — and the families fighting through them.Whether you're a parent feeling lost and guilty, someone personally navigating an eating disorder, or simply someone who wants to understand better, this episode is essential listening.Topics covered: eating disorder recovery, genetic predisposition to eating disorders, residential treatment Australia, NDeD charity, family impact of eating disorders, mental health support, lived experience, eating disorder awarenessChapters:00:00 Welcome & introducing Mark Forbes and Ended 00:57 Building Australia's first eating disorder residential — a world-first model 03:00 Mark's personal story — two daughters, one mission 05:09 The genetics behind eating disorders — the MTHFR gene explained 07:30 Global research — mapping the full genome of eating disorders 08:30 How trauma pulls the trigger on a dormant genetic predisposition 09:46 "Genetics loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger" 11:45 The guilt and shame parents carry — and why it's misplaced 12:37 The emotional reality of the first diagnosis and a very lonely journey 15:42 What it actually feels like to have an eating disorder — the spider room analogy 17:06 How NDeD got its name — and the "Ed" story that started it all 20:00 A father's helplessness watching his child suffer 22:00 Why "just eat" is the worst thing you can say 26:00 The divide and conquer nature of eating disorders on families 32:00 Building a treatment team with lived experience at its core 40:00 What recovery actually looks like — and why it's never linear 50:00 Stage one — creating Australia's first eating disorder residential 58:00 Stage two — the step up/step down day program centre 01:03:00 Stage three — the short-term accommodation village opens April 1st 01:07:17 Community produce gardens, disadvantaged youth and 2.8 tonnes of donated food 01:09:36 The beautiful irony of people with eating disorders growing food for others 01:10:54 Baby steps, no pressure — how lived experience shapes the program 01:12:02 Finding privilege in a painful journey 01:15:58 Mark's life philosophy — letting the universe do the heavy lifting 01:17:24 How to contact Mark and Ended — website, phone & socials

May 24, 2026Episode 381 hr 32 min

The Boxer Who Survived Addiction, Prison & Himself

In this powerful episode, we sit down with Gavin Topp - former Australian boxing champion, top-12 world-ranked fighter, author, and men's coach. Gavin opens up about a life shaped by a rough upbringing, street fights, addiction, world-level boxing, and a profound spiritual turning point. He shares how all of it led him to his true mission: helping men discover their purpose, step into leadership, and build a life and legacy they're proud of.This one is raw, honest, and packed with wisdom for any man willing to do the real work.Guest BioGavin Topp is a former Australian boxing champion who competed at the top 12 in the world. He is the author of A Rite of Passage for the Modern Man and The Man Alive book, and the founder of the Fight Like a Pro boxing program and The Man Alive Experience — an online program helping men level up in their family, business, and faith.Gavin has been married to his wife Michelle since their teenage years. Together they have seven children. In 2023 they relocated to Malta for over two years as part of living a purposeful, adventurous family life.Key Topics CoveredThe three men inside every man — and which one you actually listen toHow Gavin's chaotic upbringing, loyalty wound, and street-fighting years led him to the boxing gymHis struggles with alcohol and drug addiction as a young fighterTraveling the world at 19 with no plan — Singapore, Thailand, Amsterdam, and beyondThe lowest points: criminality, a casino robbery, almost driving through plate-glass doorsA series of unexplained spiritual encounters that kept showing up throughout his lifeFighting for a Commonwealth title in Edmonton, Canada while completely exhaustedHis faith journey and the Easter church service that changed everythingWhy he built a boxing program for men who had never fought — and what it really taught themThe myth of toxic masculinity — and what actually defines a manThe importance of initiation, validation, and having the right men in your cornerLiving by oaths — alcohol-free for 30+ years, marriage, purpose, and legacyTaking his family to Malta for two years and what that taught him about legacyThe "lone wolf" fantasy and why community is essential for menHis three-step framework: know your purpose, develop for it, deploy into itQuotes from the Episode"There's three sorts of men inside every man. There's the man I tell you I am, there's the man I think I am, and then there's the guy who lives on the inside — and that's the guy you gotta make your friend.""There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. Either you've got a masculine man or you've got a toxic man. All that toxic is, is just a man who is undeveloped.""Environment is stronger than willpower — be very careful the environment you put yourself in.""A man is defined by the oaths he lives by.""Legacy is happening right now. Everyone's leaving a legacy, but is it the one you want?""You either know your purpose and you're pursuing it, or by default you end up pursuing somebody else's.""The lone wolf thing — it's a fantasy."Resources Mentionedgavintopp.com — Free resource: The 8 Biggest Mistakes Successful Men Are MakingThe Man Alive Experience — Gavin's online men's program (20-week purpose and mission clarity program)Fight Like a Pro — Gavin's boxing program for men who have never foughtA Rite of Passage for the Modern Man — Gavin's first book (read in 40 minutes; covers the 7 Pillars of Rite of Passage)The Man Alive — Gavin's second bookYouTube: GavinlancetoppInstagram: @gavinlancetopp

May 17, 2026Episode 371 hr 13 min

Her Mother's Last Words "I Don't Love You"

On the Tomorrow Is Not Today Podcast, Kingsley interviews Donna Martin, a Northern Ireland “Derry girl,” mom of three, burnout specialist, mentor, and speaker behind The Good Life Approach. Donna recounts growing up amid violence during The Troubles and being bullied after her mother left on Christmas Eve when she was four and a half, shaping years of feeling like an outsider, seeking identity through religion, then drink, drugs, and poor choices. Encouraged by two women, she pursued nursing, then faced severe antisocial harassment and death threats after buying a flat unknowingly near a drug den, leading to breakdown, bankruptcy, and a pivotal moment of spiritual guidance. After depression, a move to Australia, marriage, and further family traumas including a car accident, she refocused her work on burnout and teaches “pause, check, reset” to intentionally define and live one’s version of the good life for individuals and organizations.Chapters:00:00 Christmas Eve Abandonment00:47 Choosing the Good Life01:26 Meet Donna Martin03:11 Growing Up in Derry07:17 Mother Leaves Home12:08 Outsider and Bullying20:31 Teen Years Searching25:59 Rock Bottom Inside27:49 The Secret and Nursing30:14 Mentors Who Believed37:14 New Nurse New Nightmare39:20 Rave Outside Home41:24 Harassment Escalates43:23 Community Watch Backlash44:22 Threats And Escape45:41 Bankruptcy And Breakdown47:40 Bondi Park Sign49:42 Judge Sets Her Free53:18 From Trauma To Perth58:07 Coaching Catalyst59:10 Car Crash Reframes Work01:01:57 Burnout Signs Explained01:02:36 Pause Check Reset Method01:09:29 Programs And Who She Helps01:11:20 Legacy And ClosingConnect with DonnaDonna Martin - Burnout Specialist | Mentor | SpeakerHttps://instagram.com/thegoodlifeapproach Https://facebook.com/goodlifeapproachHttps://linkedin.com/in/thegoodlifeapproachHttps://youtube.com/@the-goodlife-approach

May 9, 2026Episode 361 hr 8 min

Why Good Girls Choose Abusers

On the Tomorrow Is Not Today Podcast, Kingsley interviews Caroline Clarke, an ex-police officer and trauma therapist who works with women worldwide who sense something is wrong in their lives or relationships but lack language for it. Clarke explains how early childhood (0–7) encodes a “blueprint” of people-pleasing and self-abandonment that can attract controlling partners, and shares vivid memories of protecting her mother during alcohol-fueled violence, creating hypervigilance and silence. She describes how the body stores trauma, recounting a panic response en route to a knife-point hostage call that later connected to a forgotten childhood knife incident, and discusses fight/flight/freeze, breathing, shaking, and asking “How old am I?” She outlines boundaries, red flags, emotional/coercive control, and rebuilding self-trust, plus her No More Silence foundation, her book Breaking the Good Girl Code, and her Miss Australia Legacy International mission.00:00 Childhood Terror Memory01:31 Meet Caroline Clark02:44 Breaking the Good Girl Code04:22 Blueprints From Early Years06:46 Three Year Old Protector11:03 Narcissistic Control And Survival14:00 Body Keeps The Score15:12 Police Panic And Flashback19:27 Grounding In The Moment21:30 Fight Flight Freeze Explained24:25 Anger Triggers In Public26:41 Deescalation And Trauma Roles29:50 Bravery And Police Insights33:06 Freeze Versus Fight Patterns35:13 Fight or Freeze Patterns36:01 Gender Roles and Conditioning36:49 Breaking Relationship Blueprints39:26 Her Story Emotional Abuse40:54 Empty Fridge Analogy43:09 Breadcrumb Cycles and Promises47:59 Red Flags and Loneliness50:48 Rebuilding Self Trust52:44 Boundaries in Dating56:51 Reparenting the Inner Child59:05 Parenting Through Trauma01:02:55 No More Silence Mission01:05:50 Legacy and Where to Find Her

May 3, 2026Episode 351 hr 24 min

She lost her daugher to s**cide. Here's how she survived

This episode of Tomorrows Not Today podcast, Eslana Lower, a Gold Coast nurse, midwife, mother, business owner, and author, shares the story of losing her 15-year-old daughter Riley to suicide on Nov 17, 2022, after Riley jumped from their 33rd-floor balcony while Eslana and Riley’s sisters were home. Eslana found her and describes the aftermath, including trauma, anger, and learning to “say yes” to grief and life. She explains how childhood abuse and neglect shaped her, how parenting taught her, and why vulnerability is strength, emphasising conscious communication to avoid shame. Eslana discusses resilience “born of gratitude,” the danger of self-isolation, and the need for connection and specialised support. She describes factors behind Riley’s death, including Snapchat-based bullying and alleged grooming by an older supervisor, and shares how her surviving daughters are thriving, finding community through youth group and church. She promotes her book, “Resilience After Great Loss: Learning to Live and Grieve Simultaneously,” and offers copies to those who can’t afford it.00:00 Riley Lost01:11 Podcast Welcome02:14 Vulnerability Strength03:32 Childhood Trauma06:18 Raising Open Kids09:05 Parenting Lessons12:05 Midwife Mindset Work14:58 Purpose After Loss17:12 The Day She Died19:25 Saying Yes to Grief20:58 Not a Victim26:10 Resilience and Gratitude31:13 Choices in Darkness37:51 Connection Over Isolation41:47 Help Through Technology43:02 Conscious Parenting Shift46:12 Fear Fight Or Flight49:21 Bullying Grooming Story56:04 Grief Kindness Lessons01:00:10 Thriving After Loss01:10:32 Girls Find Community01:17:03 Book Legacy Closing

April 26, 2026Episode 3457 min

Success Was Killing Her Slowly

What happens when success leaves you empty, angry, and barely holding your marriage together?In this episode of Tomorrow's Not Today, host Kingsley Colley sits down with Mariana Lennert — Brazilian-born feminine leadership mentor, entrepreneur, and founder of Empower Her — now based in Australia after a life-changing move 19 years ago.Mariana opens up about leaving a law career that no longer aligned with her soul, navigating motherhood as a single mum in a foreign country, building multiple businesses — and still hitting rock bottom with depression, panic attacks, an eating disorder, and a marriage on the brink of collapse.This is a raw, honest conversation about what it really takes to heal, lead, and live with purpose.In this episode you'll discover:Why high-achieving women often mask deep pain behind outward successHow childhood safety patterns fuel control, resentment, and relationship breakdownThe LSD experience in Brazil that convinced Mariana she was "here for something"Why small, courageous actions — not giant leaps — create lasting transformationHow to follow signs, build intentional legacy, and lead from authentic powerListen now if you're ready to stop surviving and start leading.Timestamps: 00:00 Breakup and New Start 01:08 Meet Mariana Lennert 03:02 From Brazil to Australia 04:25 Law Career Wake Up 06:56 Learning English Fast 08:05 Motherhood and New Marriage 10:30 Success but Depressed 13:51 Control and Resentment 17:07 Childhood Roots of Control 21:43 Healing and Asking Help 25:26 Turning Pain into Purpose 28:20 Helping Women Change 31:16 Courage Over Fear 32:59 Start Small Actions 35:10 Brazil Family Breakdown 36:55 Highway Wake Up Call 40:29 Purpose After Survival 44:21 Small Kindness Big Impact 48:36 Saying Yes To Signs 51:05 Service Over Self Doubt 53:58 Legacy And Leadership 55:44 Connect And Next Steps 56:26 Final Thanks And Wrap

April 19, 2026Episode 3353 min

She Shouldn’t Be Here… But She Is

On the Tomorrow’s Not Today podcast, Kingsley interviews Sally Jones about her lived experience of child abuse, complex PTSD, addiction risks, and the ongoing work of healing, and how she turned that trauma into a child protection education program after 20 years as a teacher. She describes gaps in school-based prevention, lack of repetition, unsustainable one-off visits, and outdated “stranger danger” messaging and argues kids need skills for real-life encounters with perpetrators, who may be family, peers, or anyone. Grounded in attachment theory, her online, interactive program teaches grooming behaviours, boundaries, and self-trust by noticing body signals, and includes “champions” (trusted adults) plus an in-program “switch” that alerts a designated school contact to support mandatory reporting. The conversation also addresses adult recognition of abuse, trauma’s effects on relationships and emotional regulation, imposter syndrome, and seeking professional help and trusted support.00:00 Trigger Warning and Reality01:29 Podcast Welcome and Purpose03:04 Why Schools Need Better Protection04:57 Attachment Theory and Safety06:21 Her Story Childhood Trauma08:15 Nursing Forensics and PTSD11:26 Choosing Change Drugs and Alcohol15:12 Moving to Australia and Healing16:55 Program Teaches Grooming and Boundaries19:35 Champions and The Safety Switch23:23 Trauma Informed Schools and Policy24:37 Adults Healing and Recognition28:03 Living With Trauma Daily29:00 Trauma Never Leaves30:55 Choosing Your Next Step31:25 One Small Action Daily32:05 Legacy And Overwhelm33:26 Beating Imposter Syndrome36:07 Trauma Informed Practice37:40 Tenacity And Setbacks39:25 Retraumatization And Memories40:26 Reach Out For Help44:20 Masking And Fear49:13 Understanding And Body Memory51:54 Create Life And Legacy

April 11, 2026Episode 321 hr 6 min

She Survived the Unspeakable

On the Tomorrow’s Not Today podcast, Kingsley interviews Kerrie Atherton—wife, mother, grandmother, jazz musician, mental health advocate, addiction counsellor, author, podcaster, board director with Mentoring Men Australia, and ambassador for Fearless PTSD—about how childhood trauma and addiction shaped her purpose. Kerrie describes growing up with alcoholism, bipolar disorder in her mother, early traumatic events, bullying by a teacher, sexual assault by a pedophile, later rape, substance misuse, suicidality, and a near-fatal overdose. At 18, after planning to end her life and hearing a voice telling her not to, she returned to Alcoholics Anonymous and has been sober for 44 years. She discusses acceptance, delusion/denial in addiction, “54” negative consequences across love, livelihood, liver, and law, and the need for families to detach without enabling. She founded Stories of Hope events, published three books featuring nearly 50 speakers, hosts Inspirational Humans, and offers coaching for burned-out leaders.00:00 Abuse and Fear01:12 Meet Kerry Atherton02:31 Many Hats and Mission04:49 Family Addiction Roots08:02 Childhood Trauma Begins10:05 Assault and No Justice11:48 Bullying and Breakdown12:50 Alcohol as Escape17:10 Spiral Toward Rock Bottom22:20 Turning Point to AA25:25 Recovery and New Purpose30:26 Acceptance and Practical Steps32:07 Pain Drives Change33:57 Rock Bottom Varies34:22 The 54 Consequences36:09 Four Ls Warning Signs39:00 Delusion And Denial40:21 High Functioning Secrets43:13 Helping Loved Ones44:27 Detach With Love48:19 Tough Love Boundaries52:17 Stories Of Hope Mission56:40 Leaders Under Pressure01:02:17 Programs And Resources01:04:15 Redefining Success

February 23, 2026Episode 316 min

You're not broken, you're being built

This spoken word metaphor of a seed becoming a flower to argue that what feels like an ending may be the beginning. It describes being buried in darkness and loneliness, then breaking through to light and encountering cycles of storms, heat, and wind that strengthen roots and growth. The pain of change, including “pruning” and shedding old protection, is framed as preparation rather than punishment, creating space for new buds and a greater purpose. The message emphasises trusting the process of life’s seasons, enduring hardship, and recognising that suffering can shape strength and beauty that impacts others—sometimes immediately, sometimes years later. It concludes that even the end of a season returns to the ground not in defeat but as nourishment for future generations, forming a lasting legacy.00:00 Buried or Planted? Reframing the “End”00:26 Life as a Seed: Alone in the Dark Soil01:11 The First Shoot: Pain, Shedding, and Breaking Through02:46 New World, New Tests: Storms After the Sunshine03:33 Heat, Wind, and Growing Stronger Through Pressure04:20 The Bud Opens: Realizing Everything Shaped You04:59 Trust the Seasons: Pruning as Preparation05:49 Your Beauty & Impact: The Legacy You Leave Behind