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If you’re in the ASC industry, then you’re in the right place. Every episode, our hosts will recap the important news and data impacting ASCs, and share an interesting conversation we had with an expert from the industry. Check back often for new episodes!

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August 18, 202633 min

What the NO PAIN Act Means for ASCs

Here's what to expect on this week's episode. 🎙️ Terry Ross, Group President, Prevention & Recovery at Enovis, joins us to break down what the NO PAIN Act means for ASCs. He explains how the law creates a Medicare reimbursement pathway for qualifying opioid-sparing treatments and what centers should know about clinical evidence, implementation, and reimbursement. In this week's news recap, we cover new bipartisan legislation focused on Medicare ASC payments, what recent HCA and Tenet results reveal about case mix, and Anthem's moderate-sedation reimbursement changes. Resources Mentioned Guest Discussion Enovis NOPAIN Act Resources CMS: Non-Opioid Treatments for Pain Relief Study: The Use of Cold Therapy Following Arthroscopic Rotator Cuff Repair News Recap Outpatient Surgery Access Act of 2026 Tenet Healthcare: Second Quarter 2026 Results HCA Healthcare: Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call Anthem: Moderate Sedation Reimbursement Policy Brought to you by HST Pathways.

August 7, 202643 min

How ASCs Can Use AI to Turn Data Into Action

Here's what to expect on this week's episode. 🎙️ Matthew Obenhaus is SVP of Design & Engineering at NueHealth, where his work spans product development, artificial intelligence, and direct surgery center operations. Matt joins us for the next installment of our Trust the Data series to explain how ASCs can move beyond high-level dashboards and use artificial intelligence to turn their data into practical action. We discuss how AI can help surgery centers analyze physician utilization, block time, projected revenue, case profitability, payer performance, and supply costs. Matt also explains how ASC teams can create repeatable workflows without traditional coding skills, identify potential data-quality issues, and reach useful insights faster. Just as importantly, Matt shares why accurate data and human validation remain essential before presenting findings to physicians or board members. We also cover protecting PHI, establishing clear standards for AI use, and creating appropriate governance around these tools. In our news segment, we cover a new forecast projecting significant ASC volume growth over the next decade, preview the return of HST Connect, and share a heartwarming story about a pediatric surgeon helping children feel like superheroes before surgery. Resources Mentioned: Matthew Obenhaus and NueHealth https://www.nuehealth.com/insights/leadership/matt-obenhaus/ Vizient Forecasts Continued Growth in ASC Volume https://www.ascfocus.org/ascfocus/news/digital-debut/202607-vizient-forcasts-continued-growth-in-asc-volume HST Connect https://www.hstpathways.com/connect/ Helping Children Feel Like Superheroes Before Surgery https://www.businessinsider.com/superhero-costumes-help-kids-before-surgery-2026-8 Brought to you by HST Pathways.

July 31, 202617 min

Six Emerging Trends Shaping ASC Performance

Here's what to expect on this week's episode. 🎙️ We’re kicking off a short series called Trust the Data by sharing an excerpt from a recent webinar we hosted for our referral partners. During the presentation, Ryan walks through findings from HST’s most recent State of the ASC Industry Report. The report brings together three years of benchmarking data from 682 surgery centers across 45 states and nearly 4.8 million cases. The presentation explores six emerging trends shaping ASC performance, including uneven revenue cycle improvement, underused operating room capacity, patient collection leakage, gaps in accounts receivable follow-up, the efficiency of smaller centers, and the impact of specialty mix on growth and profitability. After the presentation, Ryan covers CMS’s proposed 2.4% average ASC payment update for 2027 and explains why high-volume procedures could still receive lower reimbursement. He also looks at congressional proposals that could bring new price transparency requirements directly to surgery centers. The episode closes with the uplifting story of three young heart transplant patients whose friendship helped carry them through nearly yearlong hospital stays. Resources Mentioned: 2026 State of the ASC Industry Report: https://www.hstpathways.com/resources/surgery-center-industry-report/ ASCA Analysis of the 2027 Proposed Payment Rule: https://www.ascassociation.org/asca/news-and-publications/news/2026/2027-proposed-payment-rule ASC Price Transparency Coverage: https://www.beckersasc.com/asc-news/senate-committee-advances-price-transparency-bill/ Patients Deserve Price Tags Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2355/text House Energy and Commerce Committee Announcement: https://energycommerce.house.gov/posts/the-house-committee-on-energy-and-commerce-advances-17-bills-to-the-full-house-of-representatives The Power of Friendship Helps Three Young Patients Through Heart Transplants: https://www.aha.org/tellingthehospitalstory/stories/power-friendship-helps-three-young-texas-childrens-hospital-patients-through-heart-transplants Brought to you by HST Pathways.

June 18, 202639 min

How ASCs Can Reduce Anesthesia Subsidy Pressure

Here's what to expect on this week's episode. 🎙️ Dr. Brian Cohen, practicing anesthesiologist and founding member and administrative chief of Miami Anesthesia Services, and Lee Kortmansky, Site Administrator at Physician Outpatient Surgery Center, join Grant Duncan to discuss one of the biggest issues facing ASCs right now: anesthesia subsidies and coverage. They break down how anesthesia costs often reveal deeper operational issues around scheduling, OR utilization, staffing models, room flipping, surgeon relationships, patient collections, and case profitability. Lee also shares how his center worked with Dr. Cohen’s team to reduce anesthesia subsidy exposure by nearly $300,000. In our data segment, we connect the conversation to our 2026 SOTI report and highlight what ASC leaders can learn from block utilization, cancellation rates, patient collections, and case profitability benchmarks. Resources Mentioned: 2026 State of the ASC Industry Report: https://www.hstpathways.com/resources/surgery-center-industry-report/ Brought to you by HST Pathways.

May 27, 202626 min

What Lenders Want to See Before You Expand

Eric Gonzales and Alexandra DeHart are healthcare banking leaders at Columbia Bank, where they work with healthcare organizations on financing, growth, and capital planning. Eric and Alexandra join us this week to break down how ASC leaders should think about funding growth. They walk through the key differences between debt and equity, what ownership and control trade-offs come with each path, and which financial metrics lenders care about most — including EBITDA, revenue growth, leverage, fixed charge coverage, payor mix, stabilization, and quality of financial reporting. In our data segment, we’re connecting the conversation back to HST’s 2026 State of the ASC Industry Report. We’ll look at how operational and financial metrics like net collection rate, OR utilization, cancellation rates, specialty mix, and case profitability can help ASC leaders build a stronger, more bankable growth story before pursuing expansion, adding physicians, or taking on new capital. Resources Mentioned: HST’s 2026 State of the ASC Industry Report Brought to you by HST Pathways.

May 5, 202623 min

Using Quality Data to Improve ASC Operations

Quality data can be one of the most powerful tools an ASC has to improve both safety and operations. In this episode, Nina Goins, Executive Director of the ASC Quality Collaboration, explains how centers can use benchmarking data to uncover deeper operational issues, strengthen payer and board conversations, and build a stronger culture of quality. She also shares why measures like wrong-site events and unplanned hospital transfers matter so much, how ASCQC’s Safety and Quality Assessment can help centers benchmark best practices, and why a simple daily safety huddle can make a meaningful difference. In our news recap, we’ll cover the latest wave of ASC development, Leapfrog’s expansion of public ASC quality reporting, new research showing how outpatient surgery growth is creating uneven access across communities, and why anesthesia remains one of the biggest operational risks to ASC growth. Brought to you by HST Pathways

April 14, 202630 min

Should You Make That Investment?

Sean Hartzell is a Managing Director at VMG Health, where he advises healthcare organizations on strategy and capital planning. Sean joins us this week to break down how ASC leaders should think about funding growth. He walks through the key differences between debt and equity, how to calculate the “true” cost of major investments beyond the upfront price, and what factors can make or break a new initiative. In our data segment, we’re talking all about spine. Spine is being called one of the fastest-growing ASC service lines, driven by a combination of CMS policy changes, payer pressure, and continued advancements in minimally invasive techniques. We’re going to spend the episode focusing specifically on spine ASCs and the potential opportunity for growth based on data-driven insights. Resources Mentioned: HST’s Specialty Data Report: Spine Brought to you by HST Pathways.

March 17, 202632 min

How ASC Sale-Leasebacks Work

Jon Vick is the Founder and Principal of ASC Realty Advisors, where he has spent decades advising physicians and ASC operators on healthcare real estate strategy. Jon joins us this week to explain how ASC sale-leasebacks work and why they are becoming an increasingly relevant strategy for physician owners. He walks through how centers can use sale-leasebacks to fund de novo projects, expansions, and renovations without taking on additional debt, while also addressing common concerns around control and long-term value. In our data segment, we’re discussing OR block utilization and showing how increased usage can generate millions in revenue. We’ll use real podiatry stats as an example, but the same concept and tips apply to any specialty. Resources Mentioned: https://www.hstpathways.com/specialty-data/podiatry Contact Jon + his team: https://www.ascrealtyadvisors.com/about/leadership/ Brought to you by HST Pathways.

March 3, 202633 min

Inside the ASC Deal Process: From LOI to Close

Stephanie Tarry brings more than three decades of experience in the ASC industry. Now with Physician Transaction Advisors, she works closely with physician groups to evaluate partnership opportunities and guide them through the transaction process from start to finish. In this episode, she breaks down how ASC transactions actually unfold, from early readiness and confidential information memorandums to letters of intent, quality of earnings, and closing. In our data segment, we’re breaking down Case Share by Age Group from HST’s demographic benchmarking report. If you’re not tracking your age mix, you may be missing a key component of what is truly driving demand and financial performance at your ASC. There is a direct correlation between age and specialty, which means there is a secondary correlation between your patient’s age and potential revenue. Resources Mentioned: https://www.hstpathways.com/specialty-data/asc-demographic-data Brought to you by HST Pathways.

February 24, 202636 min

The Power Shift After CON Reform

Dr. Leo Spector, MD, MBA, is the CEO of OrthoCarolina, where he leads strategy across a growing network of ASCs while continuing to practice as a spine surgeon. With decades of experience navigating joint ventures and certificate-of-need restrictions, Dr. Spector brings a physician-leader perspective on what it takes to successfully own and operate ASCs today. In this episode, he shares OrthoCarolina’s journey from hospital joint ventures to wholly owned surgery centers, how CON reform is reshaping growth opportunities, and what independent groups should consider as they evaluate their ownership options. In our news recap, we’ll cover five ways CMS is continuing to impact the ASC industry, two HCA medical centers that sold, cybersecurity concerns around generative AI, and how Amazon's same-day delivery can help your ASC with patient outcomes. One other note: our other host, Alex Larralde, unfortunately, needed to step away from HST so she could help with personal family needs full-time. That means this will be the last episode she’s included in. I’m sure she’d appreciate a kind message from you if you’re up to it. Resources Mentioned: 5 CMS moves shaping the ASC industry Montecito Buys Two HCA Medical Centers How the generative AI boom changes healthcare cybersecurity Amazon Pharmacy to expand same-day delivery to 4,500 cities Brought to you by HST Pathways.