Third Alarm Cowboys Podcast

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Teaching what it takes to be a successful firefighter on and off the job. Having real life conversations about topics that most people refuse to talk about. Thirdalarmcowboys.com Paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys

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October 20, 202646 min

#138 Building a Business to Ace Your Test- feat. Justin Turner TestresQ

https://www.thirdalarmcowboys.com/podcast Testresq.com. Promo Code- Thirdalarm Protein- https://1stphorm.com/?a_aid=thirdalarmcowboys Leadership and Management book- VIPER Improvement Fire/EMS Department - Dr. David Hupp Cigars- https://paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys/ The conversation features Heath Meredith interviewing Justin, a firefighter and ER nurse, about his journey in the fire department and the development of his platform, Test Rescue, aimed at aiding firefighters in their promotional exams. They discuss the challenges of studying for exams, the need for a comprehensive learning platform, and Justin's background in the military and nursing. The conversation explores the challenges and goals of individuals in the fire service, particularly focusing on the continuous need for certifications and the development of a test preparation platform designed to assist users in their professional advancement. Takeaways Comprehensive study tools needed Personal stories enhance learning Continuous certification is essential Test preparation platform aids advancement Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 02:29 Justin's Background and Career Path 09:07 The Inspiration Behind Test Rescue 12:34 Challenges in Firefighter Exam Preparation 17:10 Future Developments and Expansion Plans 19:30 Navigating Continuous Certifications 21:34 Goals and Expansion of Test Preparation 24:31 Challenges of Running a One-Man Operation 28:10 Understanding the Test Preparation Platform 35:06 The Importance of Test Preparation in Professional Growth

October 14, 2026Episode 1371 hr 7 min

#137 Fck Losing- We Run the Sht

thirdalarmcowboys.com paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys Promo Code- Fistfight https://1stphorm.com/?a_aid=thirdalarmcowboys V.I.P.E.R. Improvement Leadership and Management (Dr. Hupp) testresq.com Promo Code- thirdalarm In this episode, Heath Meredith discusses the importance of real-life training for firefighters, critiques the current mentality in the fire service, and emphasizes the need for genuine experience over superficial accolades. He also highlights upcoming training events and expresses his frustrations with coaching and leadership in both sports and firefighting. In this conversation, the speaker emphasizes the necessity of intensity and real-world experience in the fire service. He critiques the current state of training and the reliance on theoretical knowledge over practical application, advocating for a shift towards hands-on learning and genuine commitment to the profession. Takeaways Real-life training importance Critique of fire service mentality Intense commitment is essential Real-world experience trumps theory Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Recent Events 02:53 Upcoming Training and Classes 06:10 Concerns About Training Integrity 09:02 The Importance of Real Experience 11:52 The Texas Burnout Event 15:13 Critique of Coaching and Leadership 20:01 Addressing the Loser Mentality 30:13 Conclusion and Call to Action 34:01 The Importance of Intensity 37:21 Training and Real-World Application 45:30 The Future of Fire Service Training 49:10 Addressing Real-World Challenges 52:03 The Need for Practical Experience 56:29 Relevance in Training and Operations

October 9, 20261 hr 19 min

#136 Chiefs Live the Standard feat. Chief Kevin Lynch

thirdalarmcowboys.com Cigars- paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys protein- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys testresq.com promo code-thirdalarm The conversation between Heath Meredith and Kevin Lynch delves into the evolving standards and practices within the fire service, emphasizing the importance of realistic training and the challenges faced by fire chiefs in implementing change. Lynch shares his experiences and insights on training, leadership, and the necessity of maintaining high standards in firefighting. The conversation focuses on the experiences and insights of Chief Kevin Lynch regarding leadership in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of training, safety, and adapting to changing circumstances. The discussion also highlights the challenges faced by fire departments and the need for continuous improvement and collaboration among firefighters. Takeaways Importance of realistic training Challenges of leadership in firefighting Leadership in fire service Importance of continuous training Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Fire Service Podcast 00:57 The Role of a Fire Chief 02:00 Training Standards and Realism 06:04 Changing Training Practices 09:58 The Shift in Fire Service Training 14:45 The Importance of Education and Standards 19:07 Defining the Standard in Firefighting 23:05 Training Requirements and Mental Health 26:55 Living by the Standard as a Chief 30:05 Facing Criticism as a Chief 39:22 Navigating Leadership Challenges 41:20 Adapting Policies for Safety 43:09 Highway Safety Concerns 46:35 Tracking Training and Performance 56:27 Encouraging Outside Learning Experiences 01:00:19 The Importance of Realism in Training 01:03:39 Embracing Change and Collaboration

October 6, 202635 min

#135 Cant Miss Jobtown!

thirdalarmcowboys.com testresq.com promo code-thirdalarm The conversation revolves around the upcoming Small Town Job Town conference, highlighting its significance for firefighters, the lineup of instructors, and the importance of hands-on training. The hosts discuss the unique features of the conference, including the burn building setup and the focus on both practical skills and mental health in firefighting. The conversation revolves around the upcoming Small Town Job Town Fire Conference, discussing its location, logistics, and the camaraderie among attendees. The speakers emphasize the importance of hands-on training and the unique atmosphere of the event, highlighting personal connections made through shared experiences in the fire service. Takeaways Importance of hands-on training Focus on mental health in firefighting Camaraderie in firefighting Hands-on training opportunities Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Conference 01:49 Conference Details and Schedule 05:57 Instructor Lineup and Training Focus 12:03 The Importance of Mental and Physical Health 18:07 Social Events and Community Engagement 21:01 Conference Logistics and Location 24:28 Personal Connections and Experiences 26:05 The Value of Community in Firefighting 30:02 Hands-On Training and Skill Development 32:42 Encouragement to Attend the Conference

September 24, 20261 hr 34 min

#134 Is It Wrong or Different? feat. Chief Samson DeSessa

9/11 Cigar Bundle- https://paynemason.com/shop/handmade-cigars/fallen-heroes-of-911/ Testresq.com Promo code- Thirdalarm Protein- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys Brotherhood is a VERB- https://a.co/d/01ATs9nD The podcast episode features a conversation between the host, Heath Meredith, and a guest, discussing various topics related to leadership, personal development, and the fire service industry. The guest shares insights on leadership, the importance of diverse voices, and the need for open-mindedness in the fire service. They also discuss the challenges of implementing change in a hierarchical organization and the value of individualized leadership styles. The conversation covers the leadership style of a fire chief, the impact of round table leadership, the challenges of transitioning from a number two to a number one position, and the importance of communication and relationship-building with internal and external stakeholders. The conversation delves into the role of a fire chief, the importance of delegation, building relationships with mutual aid partners, pursuing ISO rating, retirement age for fire chiefs, and the significance of leadership and buy-in within the fire service industry. Takeaways Diverse Voices Individualized Leadership Challenges of Implementing Change Round table leadership Challenges of transitioning to a number one position Delegation and trust are essential for a fire chief to balance training, leadership, and administrative responsibilities. Building strong relationships with mutual aid partners is crucial for effective collaboration and support during emergencies. Pursuing ISO rating can benefit mutual aid partners and demonstrate appreciation for their support. The retirement age for fire chiefs can impact their ability to leave a lasting legacy and impart leadership lessons. Leadership and buy-in are crucial for creating a positive impact and fostering a culture of respect and dedication within the fire service industry. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Sponsorship 01:22 Building Relationships and Health/Fitness Sponsorship 02:17 Fallen Heroes of 911 Twin Package and Scholarship Fund 05:49 Introduction of Guest and Mutual Respect 06:26 Leadership and Personal Development 07:22 Leadership Styles and Followership 09:19 Open-mindedness and Change Implementation 16:15 Challenges of Implementing Change 27:39 Leadership and Individualized Styles 32:27 Round Table Leadership 36:27 Challenges of Transitioning to a Number One Position 43:43 Importance of Communication and Relationship-Building 01:02:48 Balancing Responsibilities as a Fire Chief 01:03:46 Building Relationships with Mutual Aid Partners 01:04:42 Pursuing ISO Rating and Mutual Aid Support 01:05:42 Retirement Age and Legacy of Fire Chiefs 01:07:26 Leadership and Buy-In in the Fire Service Industry

September 21, 202642 min

#133 Soft as Sh*t

Live Fire Collab Registration- thirdalarmcowboys.com/register testresq.com Promo Code- Thirdalarm 9/11 Cigar Bundle- https://paynemason.com/shop/handmade-cigars/fallen-heroes-of-911/ Supplements- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys thirdalarmcowboys.com/training The podcast episode features a passionate discussion about the values and expectations in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of real-world training and performance over corporate influence. The host shares personal experiences and insights, challenging the softening of the fire service and advocating for a champion mindset. Heath Meredith discusses the importance of real training for firefighters and promotes the Third Alarm Cowboys Scholarship Fund. He emphasizes the need for mental and physical toughness in the fire service and shares details about upcoming live fire training events. Takeaways Community fire departments embody the true spirit of the fire service, founded on family and a genuine desire to serve. The fire service needs to prioritize real-world training and on-scene performance over corporate influence and social media validation. Real training is essential for firefighters Mental and physical toughness are crucial in the fire service Chapters 00:00 The Spirit of Community Fire Departments 03:12 The Impact of Corporate Influence on the Fire Service 05:45 The Importance of Champion Mindset in the Fire Service 08:09 The Softening of the Fire Service 14:29 The Real Expectations of the Fire Service 18:06 The Metrics of Success in the Fire Service 21:32 Promoting Real Training for Firefighters 24:01 Importance of Mental and Physical Toughness 31:44 Upcoming Live Fire Training Events

September 11, 2026Episode 1321 hr 0 min

#132 Hiring a Pulse

Thirdalarmcowboys.com testresq.com Promo code- Thirdalarm Fallen Heroes of 9/11 Cigar Bundle paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys Postworkout Recovery- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys Heath Meredith discusses a range of topics including the launch of new merchandise, a platform for test preparation, post-workout recovery products, and the importance of open-mindedness in the fire service. He also addresses the issue of instructors promoting their methods as the only way, and the need for firefighters to select training that is relevant to their department. The conversation covers the challenges and concerns related to the current state of fire service, the need for a higher standard of training and professionalism, and the creation of a community of dedicated and passionate firefighters. It also emphasizes the importance of building a stronger and more supportive fire service culture. Takeaways Merchandise launch and order fulfillment Test preparation platform Post-workout recovery products Importance of open-mindedness in the fire service Selecting relevant training for the department Training and professionalism in the fire service are at risk due to the hiring of underqualified personnel. The creation of a community of dedicated and passionate firefighters is essential for improving the fire service. Chapters 00:00 Merchandise Launch and Order Fulfillment 01:29 Test Preparation Platform 04:48 Post-Workout Recovery Products 09:00 Importance of Open-Mindedness in the Fire Service 29:46 Selecting Relevant Training for the Department 31:40 Challenges in the Fire Service 32:07 The Need for Higher Standards 35:19 Creating a Community of Dedicated Firefighters 45:23 Building a Stronger Fire Service Culture

September 1, 2026Episode 1311 hr 2 min

#131 Decision Makers

thirdalarmcowboys.com Cigars- Paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys Promo Code- TAC https://testresq.com/ Promo Code-Thirdalarm Protein- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys Podcast appearances- A Silent War Within https://youtu.be/Mkfczwwqck8?si=wwemg-0zDhD7HT4A Copper State Firemen Podcast https://open.spotify.com/episode/7IZ2PEQRTaeGZivHLbytVw?si=EWCW0y-mSVCimhD5fkVgig Heath Meredith discusses recent podcast appearances, upcoming training events, and the importance of action and leadership in the fire service. He also promotes sponsor products and shares insights on fire service leadership and decision-making. Heath Meredith discusses the challenges and frustrations of fire service leadership, emphasizing the disconnect between decision-makers and operational firefighters. He highlights the need for a new generation of leaders who prioritize operational excellence and genuine care for the mission of the fire service. Takeaways Podcast appearances and training events Importance of action and leadership in the fire service Operational leaders in the fire service are often disconnected from the day-to-day challenges and needs of operational firefighters. The current generation of leaders is focused on administrative and political aspects, leading to decisions that do not align with the operational realities of firefighting. Chapters 00:00 Recent Podcast Appearances and Training Events 11:13 The Importance of Action and Leadership 31:27 The Disconnect Between Decision-Makers and Operational Firefighters 34:28 The Impact of Leadership Decisions on Fire Service Operations 40:46 The Need for a New Generation of Operational Leaders 57:27 Taking Action to Change the Outlook of the Fire Service

August 23, 2026Episode 13054 min

#130 Do as I say, Not as I Do

Thirdalarmcowboys.com Cigars- Paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys Promo Code- TAC Workout Supplements- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys TestresQ.com Promo Code- Thirdalarm (20% off first month) The podcast episode begins with an introduction to the Third Alarm Cowboys Podcast and the host's activities on the ranch. It then covers upcoming events and engagements, sponsorship and promotional content, and a discussion on an upcoming controversial article. The host shares his experiences with chiefs and the realities of ranching, as well as the challenges of budgeting and ranching. The conversation delves into the challenges of running a business, the stress of managing a business, toxic leadership, and the essence of leadership. It emphasizes the importance of giving a damn and the simplicity yet difficulty of effective leadership. Takeaways Realities of ranching Challenges of being a chief Leadership is simple but hard Leadership requires giving a damn Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Third Alarm Cowboys Podcast 01:28 Upcoming Events and Engagements 08:07 Sponsorship and Promotional Content 14:58 Discussion on Upcoming Controversial Article 15:05 Experience with Chiefs and Ranching Realities 24:12 Challenges of Budgeting and Ranching 29:35 The Reality of Running a Business 30:20 The Stress of Running a Business 31:54 Leadership and Accountability 33:19 Toxic Leadership and Expectations 35:00 The Role of a Chief and Leadership 36:25 The Essence of Leadership 43:13 The Responsibility of a Chief 45:54 Leadership and Accountability

August 13, 2026Episode 1291 hr 5 min

#129 Fire Service Cowardice

Thirdalarmcowboys.com Founding Outlaw App- https://forms.gle/rA3y9vg6UqDcB2gs9 Paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys Promo Code- TACMONTH1 Protein and Supplements- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys Testresq.com Promo Code- Thirdalarm The Third Alarm Cowboys Podcast discusses the growth of the platform, the formation of the Founding Outlaws, and the issue of cowardice in the fire service. The host emphasizes the importance of speaking the truth and standing up for what is right, addressing the challenges faced by the fire service and the impact on mental health. Heath Meredith discusses the growing frustration and disillusionment among citizens and firefighters, emphasizing the need for authenticity, integrity, and adherence to constitutional rights. He also addresses the changing landscape of the fire service and the importance of pursuing fulfillment and purpose in one's career. Takeaways Platform growth and Founding Outlaws formation Challenges of cowardice in the fire service Importance of speaking the truth and standing up for what is right Constitutional rights and freedom of speech are at the forefront of citizens' frustrations. The fire service is experiencing a shift towards a focus on operational ability and real-world training. Chapters 00:00 Platform Growth and Founding Outlaws Formation 07:33 Challenges of Cowardice in the Fire Service 27:18 Importance of Speaking the Truth and Standing Up for What is Right 32:56 Growing Frustration and Disillusionment 39:43 The Changing Landscape of the Fire Service 48:59 Living a Reality You Don't Believe In 59:13 Pursuing Fulfillment and Purpose