
Was That Racist?
What does it take to have the conversation you are most afraid of getting wrong? In this episode, social psychologist and author Dr. Evelyn Carter joins Aransas Savas to talk about how to detect, interrupt, and unlearn bias in everyday life, and why a growth mindset is the starting point for women over 40 who want to keep learning and keep leading.You will hear how to lean into discomfort instead of fleeing it, what to do when you make a mistake that hurts someone, and how to turn shame into shared learning. Evelyn also explains why the arc of history matters when the news makes everything feel hopeless.Evelyn's own second act started with a Little, Brown Spark contest she almost talked herself out of entering. She tells the story of leaving in-house corporate work, building a consulting business, and writing the book she kept hearing she should write.What You'll Learn:Growth mindset for midlife women (how believing change is possible makes you more likely to speak up and to accept feedback)How to handle a mistake that hurt someone (feel it, fix what you can, and let go of needing to be forgiven)Building courage capital (the zip line lesson on leaning into fear with the right safety in place)Starting over after leaving a corporate job (how Evelyn built a consulting business on her own terms)Entering the contest before you feel qualified (what she nearly missed by waiting)Choosing your community (why the people who say you never have to change are not the ones cheering at the bottom)Key Timestamps: 0:00 - Welcome and sponsor 2:50 - Big feelings, daughters, and grief 8:10 - How the book happened: the Little, Brown Spark New Voices award 15:38 - Leaving in-house work and building a consulting business 23:03 - Why this moment is right, and zooming out on the arc of history 27:24 - Growth mindset and racism 33:31 - Zip lining and leaning into fear 38:07 - A mistake, shame, and what learning gave back 44:04 - Atoning when you cannot fix the past 47:39 - Extrinsic and intrinsic motivation, and picking your party 51:35 - How to support Evelyn 53:16 - The nomination: Evelyn's mom 55:31 - Not making yourself smallResources and Links:Website: evelynrcarter.com Instagram: @evelynrcarterBook: Was That Racist? How to Detect, Interrupt, and Unlearn Bias in Everyday Life About Dr. Evelyn Carter: Evelyn R. Carter, Ph.D., is a social psychologist and author who studies how to detect and discuss racial bias. She has more than 15 years of experience applying evidence-based practices in higher education, financial services, technology, retail and professional sports, with clients including American Express, Burberry, Cushman & Wakefield, Nike, the NFL, Uber and UCLA. Her work has appeared in The Atlantic, USA Today, Fast Company and Harvard Business Review.About Your Host: Aransas Savas is a wellbeing and leadership coach specializing in helping women over 40 navigate midlife transitions, career changes, and second-act reinvention. With 20+ years of behavioral research experience partnering with companies like Disney, Weight Watchers, and Best Buy, she hosts The Uplifters Podcast, featuring women doing big, brave work in the second half of their lives. Aransas brings both research rigor and personal experience to conversations about courage capital, midlife reinvention, and building meaningful second acts. Connect with Aransas:Instagram: @aransas_savasPodcast Instagram: @the_uplifters_podcastTikTok: @theuplifterspodcastFacebook: Aransas SavasWebsite: theuplifterspodcast.com YouTube: @theuplifterspodcastLinkedIn: Aransas SavasKeywords: women over 40, midlife reinvention, second act career women, second half of life women, courage capital, growth mindset women, how to change careers after 40, building confidence after 40, women entrepreneurs over 40, midlife purpose women, life after 40 women, midlife dreams women, starting over at 40 women, how to talk about bias, interrupt bias at work Get full access to The Uplifters at www.theuplifterspodcast.com/subscribe










