The Trial Lawyers College Podcast talks to leading attorneys, TLC board members, and faculty about the ideas and the issues that are affecting trial lawyers today. The TLC podcast covers courtroom strategy, communicating with jurors, connecting with clients, methods that drive success, balancing healthy relationships with a busy practice and more.
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August 17, 202648 min
Exposure and Accountability with Chris Madeksho
Maren Chaloupka sits down with Trial Lawyers College alum Chris Madeksho to discuss his work representing people diagnosed with mesothelioma after asbestos exposure that often occurred decades earlier. Chris shares how TLC methods like role reversal, scene setting, and deep listening help him uncover the story behind the exposure, connect with clients and witnesses, and present complex cases to juries in a more human and meaningful way.
August 10, 202654 min
Representing Catastrophic Loss with John Sloan
Maren Chaloupka sits down with longtime Trial Lawyers College faculty member and past president John Sloan to discuss the unique challenges of representing clients who have suffered catastrophic injuries. John shares lessons from decades of trial experience, including the importance of before-and-after witnesses, listening, role reversal, and understanding how an injury has changed not only a client's abilities, but their entire life. They also discuss how TLC methods help lawyers connect more deeply with their clients and communicate those losses authentically to a jury. The conversation concludes with a preview of TLC's 2027 catastrophic injury seminar, which will focus on developing powerful opening statements in these difficult cases.
August 3, 202635 min
Solo to Shared with Monica Hartsock
Monica Hartsock joins Andrew Delaney and Amanda Harbour for a candid conversation about consumer protection litigation, building a successful solo practice, and the unexpected value of finding a community of trial lawyers. From fighting financial institutions and corporate misconduct to preparing witnesses through psychodrama and storytelling, Monica shares how Trial Lawyers College reshaped not only her trial skills but also the way she collaborates with other lawyers.
July 27, 20261 hr 1 min
Advocacy Beyond Assumption with Eric Davis
In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College Podcast, Brady Skinner III sits down with legendary trial lawyer and longtime TLC faculty member Eric Davis for an honest conversation about race, justice, and the realities of practicing law in America. Together, they examine how racial bias can shape the criminal legal system, the unique experiences of Black trial lawyers, and the responsibility of advocates to confront prejudice while remaining steadfast in the defense of every client's constitutional rights. Eric shares powerful stories from his decades in the courtroom, discusses navigating difficult judges and juries, and explains how the Trial Lawyers College transformed his approach to storytelling, voir dire, cross-examination, and authentic advocacy.
July 23, 202629 min
Transformed with Reshae Ridley
In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College Podcast, Amanda Harber and Andy Delaney welcome Harris County Public Defender and 2025 TLC graduate Reshae Ridley to share her experience at the College's Three-Week program at Camp Dawson. Shay reflects on her path from military service and public service to criminal defense, why she believes psychodrama is the foundation for authentic advocacy, and how vulnerability transformed both her approach to clients and her courtroom skills. She also discusses the lifelong friendships formed through TLC, the value of continued learning, and why she believes the College is one of the best investments an attorney, or a supervisor, can make. Whether you're considering attending the Three-Week program or simply want to hear how human connection can elevate trial advocacy, this conversation offers an inspiring look at the heart of the Trial Lawyers College experience.
July 20, 202659 min
Riding the Silent Pony with Robin Zephier
In this deeply reflective episode of the Trial Lawyers College Podcast, Maren Chaloupka sits down with longtime TLC graduate, trial lawyer, author, and teacher Robin Zephier. Robin shares the family stories, Indigenous traditions, and spiritual teachings that shaped his life, from the oral histories passed down by his grandmother to the legacy of his great-grandfather, Mato Niampi ("Saved by Bear"). Together, they explore how those lessons have influenced Robin's work as a trial lawyer, his commitment to serving others, and the profound impact of Trial Lawyers College on his understanding of storytelling, psychodrama, and human connection. The conversation also introduces Robin's moving new poem, Riding the Silent Pony , written for the College's Walk in Silence tradition: a meditation on self-discovery, listening, and reconnecting with the person waiting within. This episode is an invitation to slow down, honor the stories that came before us, and remember that the most important journey is often the one inward.
July 14, 202629 min
Fighting for Justice with Patrick McLain
What does it take to stand beside a client when the stakes couldn't be higher? In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Amanda Harber and Andy Delaney sit down with renowned Texas criminal defense attorney Patrick McLain to discuss his nationally recognized representation in the Prairie Land detention center case, the challenges of defending politically charged prosecutions, and why the search for truth must always come before the pursuit of victory. Patrick shares how psychodrama, focus groups, story discovery, and other TLC methods shaped his trial preparation, strengthened his advocacy, and helped him remain grounded even in the face of difficult verdicts. The conversation also explores the value of the TLC community, the role of the F-Warrior alumni network, and why the real measure of a trial lawyer is the willingness to keep fighting for justice, regardless of the outcome.
June 15, 202650 min
Restoring Dignity with Lauren Checki and Naomi Jones
What happens when the fight isn't over a personal injury, but over a family's home? In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Maren Chaloupka welcomes Louisiana attorneys Lauren Checki and Naomi Jones to discuss the deeply human stories behind property and casualty litigation. From hurricanes and flood damage to denied claims and bad-faith insurance practices, they explain how the TLC method transformed the way they investigate cases, connect with clients, and uncover the emotional impact of losing the place people call home. Through powerful examples, they reveal why these cases are about much more than roofs, walls, and repair estimates. They are about families, dignity, and restoring stability after disaster.
June 8, 20261 hr 1 min
Behind the Bite with David Zagoria
What does it take to advocate for victims of dog attacks, and why do these cases involve far more than bites and scars? In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Maren Chaloupka sits down with Georgia trial lawyer and TLC faculty member David Zagoria to explore the unique challenges of dog injury litigation. Through powerful role reversals and real case stories, David shares how the TLC method helps uncover hidden truths, build trust with witnesses, and connect deeply with clients whose lives have been changed by trauma. He discusses the investigative work required to prove these cases, the emotional scars that often outlast physical wounds, and how psychodrama and authentic storytelling transformed his practice and his life. Whether you represent injury victims, criminal defendants, or anyone seeking justice, this conversation offers a compelling look at advocacy rooted in humanity, truth, and connection.
June 1, 202630 min
Authenticity with Natanya Brooks
What happens when trial lawyers stop performing and start connecting? In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Ron Estefan sits down with Natanya Brooks to discuss how the TLC method transformed not only her approach to trial work, but her life. Natanya shares how psychodrama, vulnerability, and authentic human connection helped her become more present with clients, juries, family, and herself. From processing personal loss to learning to trust her own voice in the courtroom, she reflects on the power of showing up as a genuine human being rather than performing a role. This inspiring conversation explores why connection, not perfection, is often the key to effective advocacy and meaningful relationships.
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