
In Person: How Working Together Makes Us Better with Dr. Natalia Emmanuel
Working from home might make you more productive, but is it making your work worse? Research suggests that while experienced employees can accomplish more remotely, younger workers may be missing out on crucial mentorship, collaboration can suffer, and social isolation may be taking a toll on mental health. With companies pushing employees back into the office, are these mandates actually solving anything? In this episode of The Rational View, I speak with Dr. Natalia Emanuel, a research economist and coauthor of In Person: How Working Together Fuels Creativity, Productivity, and Growth, written with economist Dr. Emma Harrington. Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Person-Working-Together-Creativity-Productivity/dp/B0GN6DKXMS Both earned their PhDs at Harvard and completed postdoctoral research at Princeton. Their work investigates how physical proximity affects workplace productivity, creativity, professional development, and personal well-being. We examine the surprising differences between getting more work done and producing better work, research suggesting that our brains synchronize far less during video calls, and findings linking remote work to increased isolation and psychological distress. We also explore why return-to-office mandates often fail, how hybrid arrangements can preserve flexibility for working parents, and whether remote meetings help or hinder introverts. Along the way, we challenge some of the research and discuss what employers should actually be measuring if they want happier, more effective teams. Chapters 0:00 - Introducing Dr. Natalia Emanuel 1:12 - Why Being In Person Matters 3:15 - Who Benefits and Who Loses From Remote Work? 6:06 - Productivity vs. Quality of Work 8:59 - Why Our Brains Connect Differently on Zoom 11:35 - Is Remote Work Harming Mental Health? 14:54 - Working Parents and the Value of Flexibility 17:16 - Why Return-to-Office Mandates Fail 19:26 - Measuring Collaboration Instead of Attendance 21:22 - Do Hybrid Meetings Disadvantage Introverts? 23:40 - Why Our Radius of Awareness Is Shrinking Links In Person by Natalia Emanuel and Emma Harrington: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/795672/in-person-by-natalia-emanuel-phd-and-emma-harrington-phd/ The Rational View: https://www.therationalview.ca The Rational View Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/therationalview Support the podcast: https://patron.podbean.com/TheRationalView If you enjoy The Rational View, please subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review wherever you listen. Join The Rational View Facebook group to discuss the evidence, challenge the conclusions, and suggest future topics. I'd love to hear whether you think remote, hybrid, or in-person work offers the best balance.












