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The Project Chatter Podcast

The Project Chatter Podcast

Hosted by Dale Foong and Val Matthews

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219

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Jun 2026

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Welcome to Project Chatter, the podcast where project professionals, specialists and experts from various sectors talk about the latest trends in project management and PMO. Listen to Val and Dale as they talk about tried and tested best practices and share their unfiltered thoughts about the industry. Whether you're here to learn how to progress your career, improve your project controls skills, or just want to hear an Aussie and South African rant about projects, then you've come to the right place. Welcome to the Project Chatter Podcast, with your hosts Dale Foong and Val Matthews.

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June 11, 2026Episode 21855 min

S10E218: Breaking into the job market in the age of AI, with Nick Chizuka

Top of his MBA class at the University of Bath, technically sharp, and still firing out 20 to 30 applications a day with little to show for it. Nick Chizuka joins Dale and Val for an honest conversation about what it takes to land a role in project controls and consulting right now, and why the rise of AI has made the graduate market tougher than it was even a year ago.It is a candid look at the gap between what universities teach and what employers actually want, the false choice between technical and soft skills, and where the real jobs of the next decade might come from.In this episode:Why a top MBA no longer guarantees a job, and what changedTechnical skills vs soft skills, and why you need bothThe graduates' verdict on data, analytics and machine learningRobotics and physical AI as the next frontierThe energy and infrastructure bottleneck nobody talks aboutUsing the big firms as a springboard, not a destinationGrit, discipline, and hiring for attitude over CVNick's hard-won advice: don't get discouraged, get help, and network relentlesslyA reminder that people are not their behaviours. Set the environment for success and the right person will fly.This episode is sponsored by nPlan.nPlan AI Day, Summer 2026: Construction SuperintelligenceThursday 25 June 2026, from 3:00pmKachette, 347 Old St, London EC1V 9LP, and onlinenPlan's twice-yearly showcase returns with its biggest product moment of the year, including the launch of the nPlan Decision Intelligence Platform. The fireside brings together Peter Hancock, Project Director at National Grid on the Didcot substation, and Dima Pogorelsky, Managing Director and Partner at BCG, for a candid take on delivering the infrastructure behind the AI era. February sold out with standing room only, so book early.Register: https://www.nplan.io/events/nplan-summer-ai-day-2026-construction-superintelligenceListen, subscribe and follow Project Chatter wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this one, pay it forward and share the link.Stay safe, be disruptive, and have fun doing it.

May 1, 2026Episode 21755 min

S10E217: Lisa Silander on 30 Years in UK Project Controls

Dale and Val are joined by Lisa Silander, Global Practice and UK Technical Lead for Project Controls at AtkinsRéalis.With 30 years leading planning and project controls teams across aviation, rail, water, manufacturing, and nuclear, Lisa has shaped delivery on some of the UK's most demanding capital programmes including Heathrow Terminal 5, Heathrow Q6, the Heathrow Expansion Project, Thames Water AMP5, and Yorkshire Water AMP7.In this episode we cover:Lisa's career journey into project controlsWhat attracted her to the discipline and kept her there for three decadesThe initiative she's leading to build UK project controls capability at AtkinsRéalisWhy humans will always be involved in projects, even as AI reshapes the workThe daily habits that have shaped her careerGrit, determination, and the human side of leading high-performing teamsPerspective as a woman building and leading teams in a complex industryA grounded, practical conversation with one of the most experienced voices in UK project controls.Connect with Lisa Silander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-silander-fcasa-b078645/Follow the Project Chatter Podcast:Website: https://www.projectchatter.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/projectchatterpodcastYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoudjc2m0ttmAkyvBnf8EnQSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6m6J87LIOHVoY9FlaAXp53Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-project-chatter-podcast/id1869579042If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, review, and share with someone in your network.Keep listening, keep liking, and keep paying it forward.

April 22, 2026Episode 21642 min

S10E216: CaSA Digital Community of Practice Fight Night

We recently hosted the Controls and Skills Authority Digital Community of Practice Fight Night in Birmingham. This lively panel debate explores the impact of AI on project delivery, jobs, and industry practices. Experts challenge the notion that AI is just a tool or a threat, examining cultural, technical, and structural factors shaping AI adoption in construction and beyond.3 FightsCulture is the No.1 Enabler for AI Adoption - Ronald Dyer vs Andrew KnightAI is just a tool, it won't replace jobs - Lisa Silander vs Marco FrisendaAI Does Not Improve Project Delivery - Sarah Crawley vs Kashan Ratyalhttps://www.controlsandskills.co.uk/

April 3, 2026Episode 2151 hr 21 min

S10E215: AI Regulation - Navigating the Future of Responsible Innovation with Isabela Parisio

In this episode, Isabela Parisio, a legal expert in AI regulation, shares insights on the challenges and opportunities of regulating artificial intelligence. Topics include regulatory sandboxes, definitions of AI, accountability, privacy, military applications, and the future of AI governance. Key TopicsRegulatory sandboxes for AI testingDefinitions and scope of AIAccountability and liability in AI systemsPrivacy concerns and data protectionMilitary applications and ethical considerationsLegal fictions and AI as a legal entityPolicy development and international cooperationChapters03:59 Isabela's Background and Transition to AI07:54 Intersection of Law and AI11:07 Understanding Regulatory Sandboxes14:44 Experimentation in AI Development21:00 Privacy Concerns in AI28:22 The Role of AI in Self-Regulation34:39 The Human Element in Technological Advancement39:30 AI in Military Applications: Accountability and Ethics46:07 Navigating Accountability in AI Usage56:40 Education and AI Literacy for Future Generations01:01:41 The Legal Status of AI: A New Frontier01:11:36 The Future of AI: Ethical Considerations and GovernanceResourcesResponsible AI UK - https://responsibleaiuk.org/European Union AI Act - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A52021PC0206Johns Hopkins University AI Policy - https://www.jhu.edu/King's College London AI Research - https://www.kcl.ac.uk/Bicentennial Man (Movie) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118571/UK Data Protection Laws - https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/California AI Legislation - https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpaAI Summit 2023 - https://aibusiness.com/events/ai-summit-2023/

March 20, 2026Episode 21456 min

S10E214: Understanding the Complexity of Modern Data Centers with Dr Atif Ansar

In this episode of the Project Chatter podcast, Val and Dale welcome Atif Ansar, co-founder of Foresight, to discuss the rapidly evolving world of data centers. Atif shares insights on the explosive growth and increasing complexity of data centers, highlighting the challenges related to energy supply, skilled labor, and technology redundancy. The conversation explores the role of AI in enhancing data center design and construction, the impact of edge computing, and the skills needed for future project professionals in this dynamic field. Atif also touches on innovative concepts like space-based data centers, emphasizing the exciting opportunities and challenges that lie ahead. In this conversation, the speakers explore the intersection of creativity and AI, discussing how technology influences project management and the future of jobs. They emphasize the importance of human essence in a technology-driven world and the evolving nature of data centers amidst global competition. The discussion also touches on the necessity of adapting to technological advancements and the potential for superintelligence in the future.Takeaways🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Data centers are experiencing explosive growth, with construction volume increasing significantly.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The complexity of data centers has evolved, making them more akin to industrial assets than simple warehouses.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Data centers require substantial energy, land, and skilled labor, creating challenges in construction.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The lifespan of data centers is long, but technology within them evolves rapidly, leading to potential obsolescence.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ AI can significantly enhance the design and construction processes of data centers.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Edge computing complements data centers, creating a fractal-like relationship between different computing structures.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Project professionals should focus on becoming subject matter experts while also being adaptable and open to using AI.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The energy supply for data centers is a critical constraint, but innovation in self-supply and renewable energy is emerging.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Understanding the components and costs associated with data centers is essential for project professionals.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The future of data centers may include innovative concepts like space-based facilities. Creativity enhances the effectiveness of project management.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ AI allows generalists to be more valuable than specialists.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Human jobs will evolve rather than disappear due to AI.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The demand for human-specific jobs will be based on human preferences.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Technological advancements can improve quality of life and efficiency.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The luxuries of one generation become necessities for the next.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ We are transitioning from an analog to a digital world.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Data centers are crucial in the global tech race.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ The construction of data centers will continue to grow exponentially.🏗️👷🏼‍♀️ Continuous learning is essential in a rapidly changing technological landscape.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction01:58 The Growth and Complexity of Data Centers05:23 Key Components of Data Centers08:01 The Future of Data Centers in Space11:24 Energy Supply Challenges for Data Centers15:30 Technology Redundancy and Lifespan of Data Centers20:43 Edge Computing and Its Impact23:58 AI's Role in Data Center Design and Construction27:29 Skills for Future Project Professionals in Data Centers30:44 The Intersection of Creativity and AI33:46 The Future of Jobs in an AI World36:18 Human Essence in the Age of Technology39:39 The Evolution of Technology and Human Experience43:42 Data Center Dynamics and Global Competition52:11 The Future of Project Management and Technology#ProjectManagement #PMO #ProjectControls #Leadership #Culture #ProjectCertifications

March 6, 2026Episode 21345 min

S10E213: Unmasking Watermelon Projects: How to Achieve True Transparency in Projects with Dave Lockley

In this episode, project delivery expert Dave Lockley shares insights on transforming complex change portfolios into measurable business value, the pitfalls of watermelon projects, and how technology can improve project transparency and decision-making.Key TopicsWatermelon projects and transparencyThe role of technology and AI in project managementLeadership and decision-making in projectsChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions03:51 Dave Lockley's Journey into Project Management06:30 Understanding the Motivation Behind Projects08:14 The Concept of Watermelon Projects11:45 The Role of Technology in Project Management15:32 Decision-Making in Project Management20:51 The Need for a Chief Projects Officer22:37 The Impact of Technology on Decision-Making26:54 Understanding Decision-Making in Project Management28:19 Identifying Project Risks and Metrics30:06 The Importance of Transparency in Reporting31:15 Leadership and Accountability in Projects33:22 The Need for Qualified Decision-Makers36:11 Exploring Governance and Control in Projects38:56 The Role of Human Behavior in Project Management40:37 Final Thoughts and Reflections on Project Management

February 2, 2026Episode 21254 min

S10E212: Building a Project Control-Friendly Culture with Rod Whiting

In this episode of the Project Chatter podcast, Dale engages with Rod Whiting, a seasoned expert in project controls, who shares his extensive journey in the field since 1983. Rod discusses the evolution of project controls, emphasizing the importance of a project control-friendly culture within organizations. He highlights how understanding and valuing project controls can significantly impact project success, illustrating his points with anecdotes from his career. Rod also addresses the challenges of demonstrating the value of project controls to stakeholders, offering practical strategies to communicate its importance effectively.As the conversation progresses, Rod delves into the human aspects of project management, including stakeholder management and team dynamics. He shares insights on building relationships within teams, the significance of effective communication, and the role of technology in enhancing project controls. The discussion culminates in reflections on the highs and lows of Rod's career, emphasizing the importance of kindness and compassion in the workplace, and the need for a supportive culture that fosters collaboration and success in project delivery.TakeawaysProject controls is about understanding and valuing the process.A project control-friendly culture is essential for success.Demonstrating the value of project controls requires effective communication.Building relationships within teams is crucial for project success.Kindness and compassion in the workplace lead to better outcomes.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Project Chatter Podcast00:49 Rod Whiting's Journey in Project Controls03:39 Understanding Project Control-Friendly Culture06:52 Demonstrating the Value of Project Controls11:12 Building Strong Team Relationships19:43 Navigating the Post-COVID Work Landscape30:37 The Future of Work and Automation32:12 Creating a Project Controls-Friendly Culture35:29 Leadership and Compassion in Tough Times39:00 Common Mistakes in Project Management42:25 Capturing Knowledge and Experience45:19 The Role of Technology in Project Controls49:54 Highs and Lows of a Project Management Career55:34 Final Thoughts on Kindness and Purpose

January 17, 2026Episode 21159 min

S10E211: AI and Change Management - A New Era with Vincent Marsicano

In this episode of Project Chatter, hosts Dale and Val welcome Vincent Marsicano, CEO of Adopt It, to discuss the intersection of change management and technology. Vincent shares his unique background, which includes a PhD in physics and extensive experience in change management, emphasizing the importance of human-centered leadership in navigating organizational change. The conversation delves into the challenges of technology adoption, the role of AI in change management, and the necessity of understanding the human side of projects. Vincent argues that while technology can enhance efficiency, the core of successful change management lies in empathy and effective communication.As the discussion unfolds, Vincent highlights the significance of identifying key influencers within organizations to facilitate change. He also addresses the complexities of human behavior in project management, suggesting that understanding individual differences and fostering a culture of trust can lead to more successful outcomes. The episode concludes with reflections on the evolving landscape of change management, emphasizing the exciting opportunities that lie ahead for practitioners in this field.TakeawaysChange management is fundamentally about the people side of projects.Technology is driving change, but it also creates challenges in adoption.Identifying key influencers within organizations can facilitate smoother change processes.Empathy and effective communication are crucial for successful change management.AI has the potential to revolutionize change management practices.

December 17, 2025Episode 21058 min

S9E210: Healthy Habits for Busy Project Professionals with Becky Holliday

Dale flies solo (briefly!) to close out 2025 and welcomes first-time podcast guest Becky Holliday - a project manager turned health coach. Becky shares how redundancy in October 2023 became the catalyst for a career pivot, and why she now helps busy professionals (especially women) build sustainable health habits. Val drops in mid-episode and the conversation expands into discipline vs motivation, managing workload pressure, eating well without weekend meal-prep marathons, and why small wins beat heroic last-minute sprints.In this episode, you’ll learnWhy Becky left project management and what she brought with her into health coachingHow to start improving health when you “don’t have time”Why trying to change everything on Monday usually backfiresA simple way to reduce stress and decision fatigue: the “3-item to-do list”Practical approaches to healthier eating that don’t require your Sunday afternoonHow movement can support mental resilience when work pressure spikesDiscipline vs motivation—and why habit size mattersThe role of identity, purpose, and values (and a thoughtful detour into spirituality)To get your FREE 5-Step Guide to Creating Healthy Habits that Stick, click here: beckyholliday.com/free-guideJoin 400+ women getting free health tools and advice every Wednesday by signing up for Becky's FREE newsletter here: beckyholliday.com/free-newsletter

December 5, 2025Episode 20957 min

S9E209: Unlocking the Power of Reality Capture with Derek Lawrence

In this episode, Dale Foong discusses the fascinating world of reality capture with expert Derek Lawrence. They explore Derek's journey into the field, the various applications of reality capture in project management, and the integration of AI in this technology. The conversation also delves into the barriers to adoption, real-world use cases, and the future of reality capture, including its potential in creating digital twins. Derek emphasizes the importance of understanding existing structures and the value of capturing accurate data for decision-making in construction and beyond.TakeawaysReality capture is a digital copy of what is for decision making.Derek Lawrence transitioned from traditional engineering to reality capture due to frustrations with conventional methods.Laser scanning technology is becoming more accessible and easier to use.Reality capture can integrate with cost modeling and project management.There are significant barriers to the adoption of reality capture in the industry.Real-world applications of reality capture include construction monitoring and historical preservation.AI is enhancing reality capture capabilities, making it easier to create 3D models.The future of reality capture includes potential uses in various industries beyond construction.Derek encourages a fail-fast approach to testing new technologies.Digital twins require accurate data, and reality capture can help achieve that. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Reality Capture05:42 Derek's Journey into Reality Capture11:59 Understanding Reality Capture18:52 Integrating Reality Capture with Project Management22:43 Barriers to Adoption of Reality Capture30:47 Real-World Applications of Reality Capture42:46 The Future of Reality Capture and AI57:39 Final Thoughts on Digital Twins and Reality CaptureLinksThe Furze Underground Complex - https://youtu.be/QKTnx6F-XMo?si=oSfyOTvXwfkv2-gjIan Jenkins talking about Gaussian Splats in the Meta Quest 3 - https://youtu.be/s6ZYbBsbAas?si=NVVz7mHMckj9p5-JDerek's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@twindltdDerek's LinkedIn page - www.linkedin.com/in/twindlderek

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