You're Withdrawing From Your Retirement Accounts in the Wrong Order
Most retirees are told to spend one account at a time, but a smarter retirement planning strategy treats every account as part of a single income system. David McKnight shows how to use the quiet early years of retirement to your advantage, and why the order you draw your income may matter less than you think. Show Notes One of the most common pre-retirement questions is which account to spend first: brokerage, IRA, or Roth IRA. Conventional advice says spend taxable money first, then tax-deferred, and Roth last – David agrees with the first part, but not for the usual reason. If you retire at 62, your paycheck disappears, Social Security hasn't started, and RMDs are years away. That's what David calls the "Retirement Income Valley". David recommends to fund your lifestyle from your brokerage account so that you can use your lower brackets to convert your IRA to Roth. You're using your brokerage account to buy tax bracket capacity, typically a five-to-eight-year window before Social Security and RMDs fill those brackets for you. David's advice differs from other experts in that he doesn't want you to convert every last dollar, since drawing your IRA to zero isn't the goal. Even though your working-year deductions vanish in retirement, the IRS still gives you a standard deduction ($32,200 if you retire today). The goal is to keep your IRA/401(k) balance low enough that RMDs stay at or below $32,200. By doing that, you'll be able to benefit from the "holy grail" of financial planning: a tax-free IRA distribution. David shares an analogy: you should think of retirement income as a control panel of faucets: traditional IRA, Roth IRA, Social Security, and a volatility shield. Your job each year is to decide how much to draw from each faucet to fund your lifestyle… all while staying as close or in the 0% tax bracket as possible. The so-called volatility shield, in particular, matters when markets have a bad year. Financial planning guru Suze Orman advocates for keeping five years of living expenses outside the stock market, so that a potential downturn doesn't force you to sell at the wrong time. This is an idea David loves, he explains why you should avoid the sequence of returns risk and opt for living off your volatility shield during down years instead. This approach, he points out, can raise your sustainable withdrawal rate from 4% to as high as 8%, with a 95% success rate. However, David and Orman differ on where to hold that money. His pick is a properly structured, funded Indexed Universal Life insurance (IUL). The reason for David's choice is that, by following this approach, cash value isn't exposed to market losses, has averaged 5-7% net of fees, and can come out 100% tax-free. The overall idea can be boiled down to this: take normal distributions when markets are up, switch to the volatility shield after a downturn – then resume once your portfolio recovers. The finished strategy: live off your brokerage account during the so-called Retirement Income Valley while converting IRA dollars to Roth at comfortable tax rates. You can subsequently coordinate withdrawals across traditional IRA and Roth accounts, and manage RMDs alongside Social Security taxation rather than separately. The result of what David suggests are multiple tax-free income streams that keep you in or near the 0% bracket… and off the IRS' radar. Remember: the best withdrawal strategy isn't an order, it's coordination: deciding each year which faucets to open, throttle, or shut off. Given the national debt's trajectory, David advocates for maximum control over your taxable income before the government needs more of it. Mentioned in this episode: David's national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America's Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Suze Orman


