The People Dividend Podcast

Hosted by Mike Horne, Ph.D

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Welcome to The People Dividend Podcast, a platform where meaningful dialogues, diverse perspectives, and inspiring stories come together to redefine the world of human capital. Every week, we sit down with industry experts, thought leaders and innovative professionals across various sectors to discuss the most pressing issues concerning people and work. Our goal is to change the narrative of business, emphasizing that people are not just resources but the most valuable assets who drive growth, innovation, and success.

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November 10, 2026Episode 14420 min

Episode 144: The Most Dangerous Part of a New Leadership Role

In this week's episode, host Mike Horne connects with Patrick Farron to unpack why executive transitions succeed or fail. Together, they explore how purpose alignment, clear expectations, and intentional listening can quickly build trust in a new leadership role. They also break down the hidden pressures of stealth mandates, the shadow side of strengths, and why psychological safety is essential for lasting organizational performance. Key Points: Executive transitions often fail because leaders are measured against unspoken expectations and hidden mandates they were never explicitly told about. Purpose alignment matters because a leader's values and the organization's goals need to work together for long-term success. Listening tours and intentional relationship-building help new leaders build trust and understand the people and culture around them. Strong execution skills can become a blind spot when leaders overindex on performance and neglect peer relationships or stakeholder dynamics. Psychological safety is about honest communication and trust, not just keeping things comfortable or avoiding conflict. Early warning signs of transition failure include confusion, misalignment, and a lack of clarity around priorities, expectations, and trust. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Patrick Farran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-farran-phd-mba/ https://adlucemgroup.com/

November 3, 2026Episode 14323 min

Episode 143: Uncertainty Is Now the Job

In this week's episode, host Mike Horne talks with Dr. Rebecca Homkes about how leaders and organizations can better adapt to ongoing volatility. She emphasizes the importance of redefining how we view uncertainty, shifting from reactive to proactive strategies, and building resilience through continual learning and flexible planning. Key Points: Embracing uncertainty as a permanent state helps leaders avoid paralysis and build a more resilient, agile organization that can adapt continuously instead of chasing false certainty. Strategy in volatile environments is less about predicting the future and more about preparing flexible decision frameworks that can adjust as beliefs, conditions, and information change. Unmanaged chaos has a real cost, including lost trust, higher operational friction, and cultural damage, so leaders need to treat reducing chaos as a core part of growth. Many organizations think they are aligned when they are not, which is why repeated communication and shared context are essential for turning strategy into real execution. The "survive, reset, thrive" loop is a powerful way to think about growth, because it gives teams permission to stabilize, recalibrate, and then re-enter growth mode intentionally. Organizations that thrive in uncertainty are the ones that learn quickly, make belief-driven decisions, and move with enough speed and clarity to keep up with change. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Dr. Rebecca Homkes: https://www.rebeccahomkes.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccahomkes/

October 27, 2026Episode 14217 min

Episode 142: What You Do Before You Say a Word

In this week's episode of The People Dividend, host Mike Horne sits down with Andy Fried, CEO of Virtual Inc, to explore the core principles of effective leadership communication and how intention and clarity drive organizational performance. Andy shares practical frameworks and real-world insights on how leaders can improve their communication to engage teams and align efforts. Key Points: The deeper issue in leadership communication is intent versus delivery, and that difference shapes how messages are received. Effective communication requires understanding what the audience thinks, feels, and does in response to a message. Repetition and consistency play a major role in building organizational alignment and retention. The Think, Feel, Do framework offers a practical structure for creating more impactful communication. Misalignment happens when leaders transmit a message without ensuring it is truly received. Emotional safety is essential for fostering engagement, trust, and open communication. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Andy Freed: https://andyfreed.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyfreed/

October 20, 2026Episode 14124 min

Episode 141: Growth Creates Complexity. Complexity Kills Execution.

In this episode of The People Dividend, Mike Horne speaks with Anya Cheng, former product leader at Target, Meta, eBay, and McDonald's, and founder/CEO of Tailor AI. They explore why execution gets harder as organizations scale, how clarity breaks down in large companies, and why leaders often confuse data, metrics, and alignment with true decision-making. Key Points: Execution becomes harder as organizations grow. Data alone has limits in decision-making. Clarity can break down inside large organizations. Goals, tactics, strategy, and mission are not the same thing. Teams slow down when they do not share a common goal. Alignment improves when leaders agree on selection criteria first. Startup life moves faster and feels more intense than big tech. AI can create noise when it is not paired with unique company data. Context and transitions matter more in today's workplace. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Anya Cheng: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anyacheng/ https://taeler.ai

October 13, 2026Episode 14021 min

Episode 140: The Gap Between Knowing and Doing

In this episode, Mike Horne hosts Daniel Doerksen to explore why leadership advice often doesn't translate into organizational performance. They discuss the psychological and cultural barriers to effective leadership, the importance of self-awareness, and practical strategies for closing the gap between knowing and doing to drive sustainable success. Key Points: Knowing what to do is not enough; lasting change depends on turning insight into consistent behavior. Decision-making is often shaped by unconscious needs and emotional drivers rather than logic alone. Self-awareness and honest feedback are essential for improving leadership impact. Organizational culture strongly shapes behavior, performance, and the success of strategy. Traditional leadership development often fails because it does not create lasting behavioral change. Reflection, experiential learning, and clarity around purpose and values are key to closing the knowing-doing gap. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Daniel Doerksen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielanthonydoerksen/ https://www.achievecentre.com

October 6, 2026Episode 13922 min

Episode 139: Your Resume Isn't Opening the Door Anymore

In this week's episode, host Mike Horne sits down with Monique Kelley to explore how modern career success is shaped by relationships, trust, and intentional networking. They discuss why authentic connection-building can open doors that credentials alone may not. The conversation also highlights practical ways to strengthen your network in a hybrid and AI-influenced workplace. Key Points: Opportunity is increasingly influenced by relationship-building rather than skills alone. Monique shares why giving value first is the foundation of effective networking. Diverse and inclusive networks can improve access and fairness. Practical tips are offered for building genuine relationships in a hybrid work environment. Trust and vulnerability are presented as important ingredients for professional growth. The episode also examines how AI bias can affect visibility and opportunity creation. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Monique Kelley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moniquekelleygigliotti/ https://www.redefiningnetworkingbook.com/

September 29, 2026Episode 13824 min

Episode 138: Pressure Reveals the Leader

In this episode, host Mike Horne talks with Fleet Maull, founder of the HeartMind Institute, who shares insights on how leaders can harness radical responsibility and self-regulation to excel under stress. Discover practical tools to improve decision-making, reduce drama, and lead with clarity and compassion. Key Points: Leaders must regulate their nervous systems to respond effectively under pressure. Radical responsibility involves owning all choices and circumstances. Expanding the window of tolerance is crucial for stress resilience. Recognizing and breaking free from the drama triangle can transform organizational culture. Leaders can make immediate shifts to stay grounded and lead optimally. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Fleet Maull: https://www.fleetmaull.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/fleetmaull/

September 22, 2026Episode 13723 min

Episode 137: Most Leaders Are Solving the Wrong Problem

In this week's episode, host Mike Horne sits down with returning guest Marilee Adams to explore how the quality of questions leaders ask can transform thinking, relationships, and organizational culture. The discussion delves into practical insights from her book Change Your Questions, Change Your Life, revealing the mental models, mindsets, and strategies leaders need for greater influence and innovation. Key Points: The power of questions can significantly impact leadership and decision-making. Marilee Adams explains the difference between Judger and Learner mindsets, highlighting their effects on leadership. Curiosity and inquiry can foster trust, psychological safety, and innovation within organizations. Practical tools like the choice map are introduced to help develop questioning skills effectively. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Marilee Adams: linkedin.com/in/marileeadams inquiryinstitute.com

September 15, 2026Episode 13622 min

Episode 136: Execution Is Where Leadership Gets Exposed

In this episode, host Mike Horne talks with sales leader and leadership coach John Donnelly about the true drivers of performance in organizations. They explore how mindset, grit, clear vision, and intentional leadership foster execution and resilience through market shifts and personal challenges—culminating in actionable tips for immediate impact. Key Points: Mindset and grit play crucial roles in achieving successful performance, especially in disruptive industries like mortgage lending. Pressure reveals and tests organizational systems and culture. Intentional one-on-one meetings and personalized engagement are powerful tools. Understanding team members' love languages and what motivates them is significant. John's journey to climbing Kilimanjaro symbolizes goal-setting, training, and disciplined effort. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about John Donnelly: https://johndonnelly.com/ linkedin.com/in/thejohndonnelly

September 8, 2026Episode 13520 min

Episode 135: Why Strategy Fails Without Execution Discipline

In this week's episode, host Mike Horne sits down with Founder & CEO of Miller Advisory Partners, Jason Miller, to explore how organizational success hinges not on strategy alone, but on effective execution. Jason shares practical insights, system designs, and leadership behaviors that drive consistent performance and sustainable results. Key Points: Many organizations mistakenly believe they have a strategy problem when, in fact, they face challenges with execution. Execution drift, decision friction, and accountability variability are significant barriers to achieving optimal performance. The "execution gap" is a critical concept that highlights the financial impact of poor execution on businesses. Changing and reinforcing leadership behavior is essential for achieving desired results. Small, continuous "one-degree redirects" are crucial for maintaining long-term alignment within an organization. Links: Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/, LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/, Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike Learn More about Jason Miller: linkedin.com/in/jrmiller21