251 Dr. Budd Shenkin MD, Humanistic Medicine
Dr. Shenkin on Humanistic Pediatrics, Health Policy, and Fixing Incentives in U.S. Healthcare On The Pediatric Lounge, the hosts interview Dr. Shenkin, a Harvard-trained pediatrician, physician leader, and health policy expert who founded Bayside Medical Group in Oakland and grew it to a 35-physician, 10-office organization later sold to Stanford/Children’s Hospital. He describes choosing pediatrics as “falling in love,” shaped by a neurosurgeon father, and recounts work in the Public Health Service during the Vietnam era, including leading and reshaping migrant health into early regional rural health centers and studying health systems and policy in Stockholm and Yale. The conversation critiques U.S. insurance, fee-for-service/RBRVS, RVUs, networks, PBMs, and administrative waste, arguing costs stem from high prices and bureaucracy, not patient overuse. They emphasize restoring humanistic care—patients feeling “cared for and cared about”—through values, systems, mentorship, and better measurement, while criticizing hierarchical training, Epic-driven box-checking, and misaligned incentives that prioritize revenue over care. 00:00 Welcome to the Lounge 00:30 Meet Dr. Bud Shenkin 01:18 Why Pediatrics Chose Him 01:34 Family Roots in Medicine 05:13 Policy Path and Vietnam Era 06:48 Training Abroad and Independence 07:47 Great Profession, Bad Job 09:40 Residency Mentors and Customer Service 12:06 Why He Rejected Academia 13:32 Insurance and Fee-for-Service Critique 15:02 Catastrophic Coverage Debate 17:15 Humanistic Care Without Money Anxiety 18:58 Where Healthcare Overspends 20:15 Hospital Pricing and System Power 21:27 PBMs and Pharma Incentives 24:45 Leading While Still Seeing Patients 26:17 Hospitality Lessons for Healthcare 29:07 Systems Thinking and Safety Design 31:33 Building Humanistic Relationships 32:49 Name Tags and Respect 33:58 Selling to Big Systems 36:27 Training and Hierarchy 37:41 Epic and Box Checking 38:14 Humanistic Exam Room 40:27 Mentorship and Great Practices 43:46 Networks vs Fiduciary Duty 44:55 Falling in Love with Pediatrics 48:36 Paying for Humanistic Care 53:06 Trust, Dissent, and Leadership 54:34 Becoming a Great Clinician 01:00:08 Keeping Idealism Alive 01:01:08 Closing and Credits Support the show 🔴 Subscribe for more Doctor stories like this: 🎧Apple and give us a 5-star review. Read more on the TPL Website SOCIAL Media Pages =============================== 📝 - Substack 🎧 - PODCAST 👥 - FACEBOOK 🐦 - TWITTER 📸 - Instagram ➡️ - Linkedin The Pediatric Lounge - A Podcast taking you behind the door of the Physician's Lounge to get a deeper insight into what docs are talking about today, from the clinically profound to the wonderfully routine...and everything in between. The conversations are not intended as medical advice, and the opinions expressed are solely those of the host and guest.




