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The Investors First Podcast

The Investors First Podcast

Hosted by CFA Society Orlando

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100

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Oct 2026

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The award* winning Investors First Podcast is a service of CFA Society Orlando. Subject matter experts from our Society interview Founders, Chief Executive Officer's, Chief Investment Strategists, Fed Presidents and more to discuss timely and relevant topics in finance. Our mission is to educate investors and investment professionals in Florida, the Americas and beyond, with a focus on making you a more informed investor and/or advisor. *The CFA Institute awarded CFA Society Orlando the 2020 Impact and Innovation Award for the Investor's First Podcast. Previous guests include Patrick O'Shaugnessy, Liz Ann Sonders, Barry Ritholtz, Federal Reserve Bank President Raphael Bostic, Dr. David Kelly, Mark Yusko, Annie Duke, Morgan Housel, Peter Zeihan, and Meb Faber. CFA Society Orlando is a member of the CFA Institute's Network of over 150 societies globally. The majority of its members hold the Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) designation, which is considered the most respected and recognized investment management credential in the world. Fewer than 1 in 5 candidates who begin the program end up successfully earning the CFA charter. Successful candidates take an average of four years to complete the program.

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November 5, 2026Episode 1101 hr 1 min

Andrew Granato, J.D., Ph.D. & Pranjal Drall – Private Equity, Insurance, and Who Pays When Insurers Fail

Insurance companies sit at an increasingly important intersection of investing, private credit, and financial stability. Andrew Granato and Pranjal Drall have been studying how the growing involvement of private-equity firms in insurance is changing insurer balance sheets and potentially shifting risks among policyholders, other insurers, and taxpayers. Andrew Granato is an Assistant Professor at the University of Texas School of Law and holds a J.D. and Ph.D. in Financial Economics from Yale, previously serving as a Senior Associate Economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, while Pranjal Drall is a J.D.-Ph.D. candidate in Financial Economics at Yale Law School and the Yale School of Management. In this episode, Andrew and Pranjal trace the evolution of private-equity ownership of insurance companies, from the traditional relationship between insurers and asset managers to the rise of firms such as Apollo and Athene. We discuss why annuity assets have become attractive sources of long-term capital, the growing role of private and structured credit on insurer balance sheets, and how affiliated transactions can create potential conflicts between policyholders, asset managers, and private-equity investors. We also explore the unusual structure of U.S. insurance regulation, including state-based oversight, offshore reinsurance, and the mechanics of state insurance guarantee funds. Andrew and Pranjal explain what happens when an insurer fails, why healthy insurers can ultimately be responsible for supporting policyholders of failed competitors, and how tax credits can shift some of those costs back to taxpayers over time. We close with potential reforms, including prefunding guarantee systems and tying insurer assessments more closely to balance-sheet risk, as well as what advisors and policyholders should consider when evaluating increasingly complex insurance products and carriers. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Founder/Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth) & co-host Chris Cannon, CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com. Show Notes: [Andrew Granato – University of Texas School of Law Faculty Profile]( https://law.utexas.edu/facult y/andrew-granato/ ) [law.utexas.edu] [Pranjal Drall – Yale Planetary Solutions Profile]( https://planetarysolutions.ya le.edu/profile/pranjal-drall ) [planetarys...s.yale.edu] Private Credit's State Backstop: How Private Equity Socializes Risk Through Insurers – Pranjal Drall & Andrew ( https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/ papers.cfm?abstract_id=7152239 ) [papers.ssrn.com] Private Credit's State Backstop – University of Texas School of Law [law.utexas.edu]

October 15, 2026Episode 10955 min

Roger Bayston, CFA – Tokenization of Traditional Assets

Today's guest on the Investors First Podcast is Roger Bayston, CFA. Roger has been with Franklin Templeton since 1991 and has spent more than three decades in the investment industry. Roger holds an undergraduate degree from University of Virginia, and an MBA from UCLA. He is also a CFA Charterholder. Based in Alamo, California, Roger discusses Franklin Templeton's global operations and the firm's growing digital-asset and blockchain capabilities. In this episode, we discuss Franklin Templeton's early exploration of blockchain technology and how that work evolved into tokenized money-market funds and a broader digital-asset platform. Roger discusses Bitcoin as digital gold and how it differs from Ethereum and other blockchain networks. We talk about Franklin Templeton's Benji platform, tokenized money-market funds versus stablecoins, and why the tokenization of traditional assets may ultimately represent a much larger opportunity. We also discuss private credit, trade finance, collateral, and public securities; regulation and custody; cybersecurity and quantum computing; and how faster settlement could both improve financial markets and increase the speed of financial contagion. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Founder & Co-Managing Principal at 55 North Private Wealth ) & co-host Drew Papke, CFA (Director, Private Bank Investments at Fifth Third Bank ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com Show Notes: · Franklin Templeton: Franklin Templeton · Benji Investments: Benji Investments · Franklin OnChain U.S. Government Money Fund (FOBXX) · Franklin Bitcoin ETF (EZBC) · Franklin Crypto Index ETF (EZPZ)

August 27, 2026Episode 10855 min

David Booth, Dimensional Fund Advisors – The Outsider Who Changed Investing

David Booth is one of the most influential figures in modern investing. As the co-founder and Executive Chairman of Dimensional Fund Advisors, he helped bridge the gap between academic finance and real-world portfolio management, transforming decades of research into practical investment solutions for advisors and investors around the world. In this episode, David joins us as he approaches his 80th birthday, celebrates Dimensional's 45th anniversary and more than $1 trillion in assets under management, and prepares for the release of his new book, Stay Calm . We discuss the origins of evidence-based investing, the development of the CRSP database, lessons from the University of Chicago during the formative years of financial economics, and the founding of Dimensional alongside pioneering researchers including Gene Fama, Merton Miller, and Myron Scholes. We also explore implementation, trading flexibility, advisor-client alignment, market behavior, speculation versus investing, AI's future impact on innovation, and David's reflections on wealth, family, purpose, and what matters most after a lifetime in finance. Few individuals have done more to improve outcomes for investors worldwide, yet David remains remarkably humble, continually emphasizing science, discipline, and long-term thinking. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth) & co-host Chris Cannon, CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ) . Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com . Show Notes: https://www.dimensional.com/ us-en/who-we-are/leadership/ david-booth https://www.dimensional.com/ New Book: Stay Calm (David Booth) – Link: https://www.amazon.com/ Stay-Calm-Embrace-Uncertainty- Investing-ebook/dp/B0GPGNWDFY Movie: Tune out the Noise – Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=T98825bzcKw

August 6, 2026Episode 10751 min

The Physical Economy: Where AI Meets Value Investing

In today's episode, we welcome Don Wordell, CFA , Chief Investment Officer of Ceredex Value Advisors , an institutional asset manager specializing in value-oriented domestic small, mid and large cap equity strategies. Don has been with the firm since 1996, starting with Ceredex's predecessor firm as a research analyst covering value equity strategies. He became portfolio manager of the Mid-Cap Value Equity strategy in 2001 and portfolio manager of the Small Cap Value Equity strategy in 2023. Don earned a B.S. in finance and an M.B.A from the University of Central Florida. He has been a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA®) charterholder since 2004. In our conversation, Don discusses his transition into the CIO role, Ceredex's investment philosophy, and why valuation alone is never enough to make a stock attractive. We explore the changing small-cap landscape, the impact of private equity on public markets, and why active management remains critical in less efficient areas of the market. A major focus of the discussion is the emergence of the "Physical Economy." While much of the market remains focused on software and mega-cap technology companies, Don argues that many of the most compelling AI-related opportunities may be found in the power, infrastructure, manufacturing, cooling, and data center ecosystems required to support AI's growth. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth) and Jeff Goll, CFA (Head of Capital Markets, Hillpointe) Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on LinkedIn or at InvestorsFirstPodcast.com . Show Notes: Whitepaper: Finding Value in the Physical Economy: https://www.ceredexvalue.com/articles/finding-value-in-the-physical-economy Ceredex Value Advisors: https://www.ceredexvalue.com

July 9, 2026Episode 1061 hr 6 min

Ari Rubin, Flock Homes – Exchange Fund for Residential Rental Properties

In today's episode, we sit down with Ari Rubin, Founder & CEO of Flock Homes, for a deep dive into tax‑efficient exits for residential real estate through 721 exchanges into the Flock Homes fund. Ari was born in Brooklyn, Harvard undergrad, served in the Israeli military, and attended (then left, like many successful entrepreneurs in the Bay area) Stanford University to build Flock full‑time. Based on his background and our offline conversations, it sounds like he is just getting started with some big ideas. Today's discussion frames the core problem facing mom‑and‑pop landlords: concentrated property holdings, large, unrealized gains, depreciation recapture, deferred maintenance, and the desire to stop active land lording. Ari explains why many landlords underestimate true yield and why operational burden—not diversification—is the real pain point. We then explore how Flock Homes works: asset scope, intake process, valuation, fees, liquidity, leverage, and quarterly cash flows. Ari compares Flock's structure to Delaware Statutory Trusts, outlines return expectations. The conversation also covers resident continuity, operations across ~20 markets, impact on vacant homes, and Flock's culture of stewardship. We also cover regulatory updates, policy discussions, and Flock's long‑term roadmap to expand its exchange‑based partnership model into other fragmented asset classes. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth ) & Pedro Bernal, CFA (Managing Director at Foursquare Foundation, and an Advisory Board Member with Flock Homes) Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com . Show Notes Flock Homes – flockhomes.com 721 Exchange Overview – IRS partnership rules Residential Real Estate Benchmarks – HouseCanary, Zillow, Case‑Shiller context

June 4, 2026Episode 10552 min

The PE Guy, Unfiltered (Mostly)

In today's episode, we welcome the PE Guy , whose real name is Johnny Hilbrant Partridge . The PE Guy character was started in early 2025 after capitulating from years of ridiculous travel and lifestyle stories from folks in finance, but particularly, private equity. He is certainly making his rounds in the CFA community, and we quickly realized he would be a great guest on our podcast (due to his role in PE , Private Equity, as the PE Guy often says in his skits). We cover Johnny's start with the Ellen DeGeneres show, then his sudden fame as a Soul Cycle Instructor, and then becoming a content creator. We discuss why he picks on private professionals more than any other position in finance, how he strikes the balance between making the PE Guy unlikeable yet charismatic, and a behind-the-scenes look at what goes into the PE Guy . We then dive into social media influencer platforms and how he manages each of them. We also talk about how financial firms should pay attention to unique content, instead of traditional advertising. Last, and certainly not least, the PE Guy makes a brief appearance in character, asking him where he summers, to his thoughts on the best golf courses in Florida, to where he stations his yacht in the Mediterranean, and much more. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth ) & co-host Chris Cannon, CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com Show Notes: Due To My Role Podcast – Apple / Spotify Follow PE Guy : Instagram , TikTok , LinkedIn , Facebook

May 14, 2026Episode 1041 hr 3 min

Mike Pyle, BlackRock – White House to Wall Street, An Allocator's Perspective

In today's episode, we welcome back Mike Pyle of BlackRock. Mike is a senior leader within BlackRock and a key member of the BlackRock Investment Institute (BII), where he helps shape the firm's global macro views and portfolio construction frameworks. Mike has a law degree from Yale and a bachelor's degree from Dartmouth. Mike brings a unique perspective to markets, having served in the Obama White House before joining BlackRock as their Global Chief Investment Strategist, followed by another stint at the White House with the Biden-Harris Administration and back to BlackRock in 2024. While in government, he worked closely on economic policy at the highest levels and completed much of the CFA Program during his first turn at the White House. In this conversation, we revisit Mike's journey, explore how BlackRock is thinking about today's evolving macro regime, and discuss the BlackRock Investment Institute before pivoting to portfolio construction in a world where stock-bond diversification is less reliable. We also dive into the growing role of hedge funds and alternatives as investors navigate higher volatility, geopolitical fragmentation, and structurally higher rates. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth ) & co-host Chris Cannon, CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com Show Notes: BlackRock – BlackRock.com BlackRock Investment Institute - https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/insights/blackrock-investment-institute

April 2, 2026Episode 10338 min

Danny Jenkins, ThreatLocker – Zero Trust Cybersecurity

In today's episode, we have Danny Jenkins, who is the CEO and Co-Founder of ThreatLocker, a rapidly growing cybersecurity firm focused on Zero Trust endpoint protection. With over 20 years in cybersecurity and a background in ethical hacking, Danny is unique in that he dropped out of school when he was 15 years old and has an unconventional resume. Danny has built multiple security companies and is widely recognized for his hands-on, real-world approach to stopping ransomware and cyber threats before they happen. After witnessing firsthand how devastating cyberattacks can be, he became a leading advocate for the Zero Trust model—blocking everything by default and only allowing what's trusted. Today, ThreatLocker protects tens of thousands of organizations globally, and Danny is a frequent speaker, Forbes Technology Council member, and one of Orlando's most influential leaders. We are proud to feature a local thought leader today. Danny is right here in our backyard in Central Florida and is at the helm of one of the fastest growing cybersecurity firms in the world. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth ) & co-host Chris Cannon, CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com Show Notes: threatlocker.com

March 5, 2026Episode 1021 hr 9 min

Brent Sullivan, Tax Alpha Insider – Tribology of Tax Alpha

We are excited to welcome a friend of the show, Brent Sullivan of The Tax Alpha Insider. We discuss all things Tax Alpha as the investment puzzle is different when it comes to taxable investors. I have been fortunate to have known Brent since the very beginnings of his Tax Alpha Insider Newsletter, a highly successful, focused publication in the wealth management space. I often say that he could become the Michael Kitces of Tax Alpha. Brent is also behind the first Tax Alpha Conference, Basis Northwest, in Seattle on May 28th and 29th, which I will be attending. Brent has an interesting career background, both corporate and entrepreneurial. As mentioned before, he is the Founder of The Tax Alpha Insider, as well as the Basis Northwest Conference. He was also a Software Engineer at Parametric, who is the godfather of direct indexing. Before that, he worked in Investment Banking and Asset Management. Brent holds a Masters of Engineering from Cornell University (Financial Engineering/Statistics), as well as a Bachelor of Science in Mathematics from the University of California, Riverside. In this episode, we discuss all things Tax Alpha, as this is our first interview with Brent. We talk about the reasons he decided to launch this, why Tax Alpha is important now, and how this is one of the best times in history to be a taxable investor with all of the tools available. We discuss everything from householding/asset location, to direct indexing, to tax-aware long-short, buffer ETF's, 351 exchanges, advisor launched ETF's, assets that shouldn't be used for taxable investors, collars/variable prepaid forward contracts, heartbeat trades/ETF share classes, box loans, tax alpha as a volatility buffer, trader funds, etc. We also discuss the impact of AI on advisors and taxable investing, as well as taking the other side, why not just pay the taxes and keep things simple. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth ) & co-host Chris Cannon, CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com Learn more: https://www.taxalphainsider.com/ https://www.basisconf.com/

February 6, 2026Episode 10158 min

Joe Davis, Vanguard – An Economist Crossing the T

We are excited to welcome Joe Davis for this episode, currently Vanguard's Global Chief Economist and Global Head of the Investment Strategy Group. Many of you likely know various iterations of the Vanguard story, but most of the professionals I know do not know how big a research team they have. Joe has a big influence on the company because he is also chairs the firm's Strategic Asset Allocation Committee. Ok, that was exhausting listing all of his titles, he is a busy person. Before that, he was still busy; he earned his M.A. and Ph.D at Duke University and is a graduate of the Advanced Management Program at the Wharton School of U Penn. Joe is a frequent keynote speaker and currently serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Portfolio Management and the Journal of Fixed Income. In this episode, we are all over the place (which is normal), ranging from Vanguard's 50+ year history as a disruptor, to how many CFA charter holders are at Vanguard now (hint: a lot), their vast and under the radar research group, new CEO Salim Ramji, patents that Vanguard created in ETF space, the breakdown of active vs. passive funds in their lineup (which surprises many) and Joe's new book on AI. This was a great segue into the markets, with the impact of AI, Fed independence being potentially disrupted, a new multi-polar world, expected returns, potential market scenarios, and more. Today's hosts are Steve Curley, CFA (Co-Managing Principal, 55 North Private Wealth ) & co-host Chris Cannon , CFA (CIO/Principal, FirsTrust ). Please enjoy the episode. You can follow us on Twitter & LinkedIn or at investorsfirstpodcast.com

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