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Human Design can be mind-blowing…but also kind of confusing. That’s where we come in. Welcome to the Human Design Hive Podcast, where we (Dana, your Human Design guide, and Hali, my daughter and co-host) help you untangle who you really are from who the world told you to be—so you can stop second-guessing yourself and start trusting your own path. Whether you’re new to Human Design or already deep in the rabbit hole, we’re here to explore how understanding yourself on an energetic level can shift everything—your relationships, career, confidence, and the way you move through the world. Because when you stop living by who you think you should be and start trusting who you actually are, everything changes. Expect deep insights, relatable conversations, and plenty of laughs as we break it all down in a way that actually makes sense for real life. Subscribe, share, and join the Hive! 🐝✨ danaphillips.substack.com

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January 3, 20261 hr 26 min

January 2026 Sun/Earth Transits: Human Design Gate Themes and Expressions

In this episode, Hali and I are covering the January transits and sharing why this is our last monthly transit episode.We dive into why January 1st isn't the energetic new year (the Human Design new year starts January 22nd), what the Quarter of Mutation means for how you should actually be using this month, and why New Year's resolutions often fail.In This Episode:Why we're ending monthly transit episodesThe truth about January energy and New Year's resolutionsHow the Quarter of Mutation supports reflection over actionWhen the actual Human Design new year beginsThis week's Incarnation Cross: Left Angle Cross of Distraction (2)Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Overview of January Transits03:06 The Significance of the Human Design New Year06:06 Reflections on the End of the Year and Holiday Energy09:08 Understanding the January Energy and Transits13:50 Sun Gate 54, Earth Gate 5324:59 Sun Gate 61, Earth Gate 6235:55 Sun Gate 60, Earth Gate 5644:37 Sun Gate 41, Earth Gate 3052:57 Sun Gate 19, Earth Gate 3301:10:48 Wrapping Up Transits01:14:03 Incarnation Cross of the Week01:25:54 OutroThnaks for listening!Tired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here:https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookIncarnation Cross Unlocked Workshop (Replay)If you’ve ever looked up your Cross name and thought, “Okay, but what does that really mean for me?” — this workshop is going to make it click.https://www.humandesignhive.com/icx-workshopWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartFollow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive)Website: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

December 3, 20251 hr 36 min

173- DECEMBER 2025: HUMAN DESIGN SUN AND EARTH TRANSITS

In this episode, Hali and I walked through the six Sun/Earth transits that carry us from early December all the way through New Year’s Eve — and there is a lot happening beneath the surface. Think themes of rhythm, change, integrity, self-acceptance, stillness, joy, provocation, and figuring out what’s truly worth fighting for.If you’re someone who naturally feels the pressure of the holidays — the gatherings, the expectations, the emotional dynamics — these transits give helpful language for what may be stirring inside you and around you.In this episode, we explore:Why Gate 5 and Gate 35 kick off December with this tug-of-war between routine and changeHow Gate 26 + Gate 45 bring up themes around influence, persuasion, self-worth, and leadershipThe very introspective, idea-heavy period of Gate 11 + Gate 12, and why timing mattersWhat Gate 10 + Gate 15 teach us about authenticity, acceptance, and honoring your own rhythmWhy Christmas weekend’s Gate 58 + Gate 52 might have you wanting both joy and stillnessHow New Year’s Eve’s Gate 38 + Gate 39 shake loose old patterns and clarify what’s actually worth your energyThe collective themes you might feel around family, gatherings, emotional waves, and year-end reflectionIf the month feels busy, emotional, or a little unpredictable, that’s exactly what the chart is showing. Knowing the themes makes it easier to stay in your own rhythm and respond instead of react.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction04:51 Workshop Replay available05:49 Sun Gate 5, Earth Gate 3525:47 Sun Gate 26, Earth Gate 4543:06 Sun Gate 11, Earth Gate 1253:01 Sun Gate 10, Earth Gate 1501:06:19 Sun Gate 58, Earth Gate 5201:18:03 Sun Gate 38, Earth Gate 3901:30:55 ICX of the Week01:34:55 Wrapping UpTired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookIncarnation Cross Unlocked Workshop (Replay)If you’ve ever looked up your Cross name and thought, “Okay, but what does that really mean for me?” — this workshop is going to make it click. https://www.humandesignhive.com/icx-workshopWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartFollow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive)Website: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

November 25, 202552 min

EP 172- Intuition, Burnout & Clean Living Through Human Design (with 5/1 Splenic Projector Leslie Menich)

In this episode, I’m joined by my friend Leslie Menich, a 5/1 Splenic Projector and the founder of Live On With Les. We talk about her journey through burnout, chronic illness, mold exposure, and thyroid cancer — and how trusting her intuition pulled her forward when nothing made sense.We also get into what it looks like to rebuild your life around your energy, why Projectors struggle with burnout, and how clean living, sustainability, and nervous system health all weave together.If you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, depleted, or unsure where to start with taking care of yourself… this conversation might be exactly what you need.What We CoverLeslie’s health journey and the intuition that kept nudging herProjector burnout + why rest isn’t optionalLearning boundaries when people naturally lean on your energyClean beauty, sustainability, and simple lifestyle swapsHow Human Design helped her understand what her body was already telling herThe role of self-care, nervous system healing, and “starting small”Timestamps:00:00 Intro and Welcome03:53 Intro to Leslie Menich08:11 Health Challenges and Discoveries11:22 Trusting Her Intuition13:41 Leslie's Human Design18:04 Cancer Diagnosis and the aftermath21:47 Understanding Projector Energy and Its Challenges25:23 The Mind-Body Connection in Wellness26:52 Meeting People Where They are at on Their Journey29:39 The Importance of Boundaries32:28 Leslie's ICX35:44 Curiosity and experiences of an Open Emotional Solar Plexus center42:32 Feeling Aligned and Accepting What is46:42 Upcoming Classes and Coaching Opportunities50:05 Wrapping up with LeslieAbout Leslie MenichLeslie is a wellness educator, clean-living consultant, and sustainability advocate, blending real-life experience with grounded, practical guidance. She’s the Manager & Wellness Educator at Baddhare Salon, a certified sustainable salon, and the founder of Live On With Les, where she helps families and businesses transition to healthier, cleaner, more sustainable lifestyles without overwhelm. Connect With LeslieInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesliemenich/Email: liveonwithles@gmail.comVirtual Business Card: https://app.wavecnct.com/leslie.menich.aq8zDiscovery Call: https://calendar.app.google/CPJrTfryuY58j8Qv6Free Class — December 15th, 9 AM ETTopic: Mind, Body + Spirit FoundationsRegister: https://liveonwithles.myflodesk.com/freeintroclassSpecial Listener Offer15% off Leslie’s 3-Session Clean Living PackageUse code: HumanDesign------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here:https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartReady to gain clarity on your Human Design with Dana?Book a Clarity Session now! https://cal.com/DanaHDHNeed some Human Design informed intuitive guidance? Check out my Email Intuitive Reading offer!https://humandesignhive.com/EmailReadingFollow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive)Website: [https://www.humandesignhive.com](https://www.humandesignhive.com/)email: [Dana@humandesignhive.com](mailto:Dana@humandesignhive.com) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

October 30, 20251 hr 30 min

171-November 2025 Human Design Sun and Earth Transits: Highlighting Individuality

✨✨ If you’ve been wondering what your Incarnation Cross really means, and how it ties into the themes showing up in your life right now, I’d love for you to join me for Incarnation Cross Unlocked on Sunday, November 9th.It’s a live workshop where we’ll look at how your cross reveals the energetic story you’re here to live and what it’s trying to express through you.Early bird registration closes November 2nd at midnight, so if this feels like a yes, now’s the time to grab your spot:https://tinyurl.com/54zm7ms5___________________________________________________________________________November brings a real shift in tone. We’re leaving the tribe-centered Quarter of Duality and stepping into the Quarter of Mutation — the part of the cycle that’s all about individuality, creativity, and inner transformation.In this episode, Hali and I look at what that means through the Sun and Earth transits for the month. It’s a time when things start to feel a little different — like change is brewing under the surface, and something new is waiting to take shape.We also touch on how individuality doesn’t mean doing it all alone. It’s more about learning to trust what’s uniquely yours, even if no one else sees it yet.If you’ve been feeling restless or like you’re on the edge of something new (but can’t name it yet), this episode will make a lot of sense.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Announcements04:40 Upcoming Workshop and Human Design Education09:30 Protests and Civic Engagement14:03 November Transits Overview18:45 Sun Gate 1 Earth Gate 227:43 Trusting Your Inner Guidance31:26 Sun Gate 43 Earth Gate 2336:42 Understanding the Genius to Freak Channel46:42 Sun Gate 14 Earth Gate 859:24 Sun Gate 34 Earth Gate 2001:00:42 Manifesting Generators and Their Energy01:10:39 Sun Gate 9 Earth Gate 1601:12:55 Collective Energies and Mastery01:16:18 Balancing Enthusiasm and Mastery01:20:35 Quality Over Quantity: The Importance of Focus01:22:04 Embracing Your Unique Contribution01:22:51 Transit Wrap Up01:23:47 Incarnation Cross of the Week01:28:05 Wrap Up Get new episodes (and bonuses) delivered straight to your inbox! https://danaphillips.substack.com/Tired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartWebsite: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

October 1, 20251 hr 42 min

170- October 2025 Human Design Sun and Earth Transits: A Journey Through the Spleen Center.

Hey there! In this episode of Human Design Hive, Hali and I are unpacking the October Sun and Earth transits. It’s a big month — six shifts to cover — and most of them move through the Spleen, bringing intuition, instincts, and those familiar fears right to the surface.In this episode, you’ll hear us talk about:- Why the Sun and Earth transits matter and how they shape collective energy - The Spleen gates we’re moving through this month (and what each one brings up) - How themes like depth, intuition, responsibility, struggle, and alertness might show up in everyday life- Practical ways to notice when fear is holding you back versus when your body wisdom is quietly guiding you We close out with an Incarnation Cross spotlight — the Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways 3: 44/24, 33/19 Timestamps:00:00 Welcome and Intro02:22 Intro to transits08:44 Sun Gate 48, Earth Gate 2127:28 Sun Gate 57, Earth Gate 5142:29 Sun Gate 32, Earth Gate 4255:07 Sun Gate 50, Earth Gate 301:11:12 Sun Gate 28, Earth Gate 2701:22:26 Sun Gate 44, Earth Gate 2401:37:06 ICX of the WeekJoin the HDH podcast over on Substack! Get new episodes (and bonuses) delivered straight to your inbox! https://danaphillips.substack.com/Tired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartReady to gain clarity on your Human Design with Dana? Book a Clarity Session now! https://cal.com/DanaHDHFollow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive)Website: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

September 25, 20251 hr 3 min

169 - Mental Spirals: What Your Human Design Chart Reveals About Unrecognized Triggers

Hey there! In this episode of Human Design Hive, we're diving into those mental spirals that can take over when one small comment sends you down a rabbit hole of self-doubt.If you've ever wondered why your mind piles worry on top of worry until everything feels overwhelming, you're in the right place. Human Design reveals where these spirals actually come from in your chart.In this episode, you'll discover:Why mental spirals aren't always random - they connect to specific places in your Human Design chartHow undefined centers (especially Will and Solar Plexus) create perfect conditions for spiralingSimple tools to interrupt these patterns before they take overReal examples of how this shows up in daily life and relationshipsKey takeaways:Mental spirals usually connect to your undefined centers - understanding this helps you realize it's conditioning, not truthCatching yourself in a spiral means you're becoming aware of automatic patternsYou don't have to be a victim to spirals - they're invitations to notice where conditioning runs the showThis week's incarnation cross:Juxtaposition Cross of Conflict 6/36, 15/10 00:00 Welcome and Intro06:02 Intro to Topic-Thought spirals12:33 Self-Worth Spirals- Undefined Will center25:44 Emotional Spirals-Undefined Solar Plexus34:59 Interrupting Spirals35:38 EFT41:57 Awareness is key44:24 Hali shares a spiral52:37 ICX of the WeekTired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartReady to dive deep into your Human Design with Dana?Grab your Deep Dive Sessions now! https://cal.com/DanaHDH This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

September 2, 20251 hr 38 min

September 2025 Human Design Sun and Earth Transits

September's bringing some intense energy shifts, and we're breaking down what's coming so you can navigate it with more awareness.In this episode, Hali and I walk through the four major transits happening this month - starting with confusion and doubt energy, moving through some serious emotional territory, and landing in a place where you can finally drop back into your body and stop trying to fix everything around you.We cover Gates 64 & 63 (Confusion and Doubt), Gates 47 & 22 (Realization and Openness), Gates 6 & 36 (friction and crisis), and Gates 46 & 25 (determination and Spirit of the Self), and 18 & 17 (Correction and Opinions).If you've been putting pressure on yourself to have everything figured out, this episode is your reminder that we're all actively learning to trust ourselves - and that's exactly how it's supposed to work.We also dive into why our nervous systems aren't built for constant urgency, how to navigate emotional waves without shutting down or exploding, and the difference between helpful correction and perfectionist criticism.We close with the Right Angle Cross of Planning 3 - all about bringing resources and structure to community while honoring your need for rest and renewal.Timestamps:00:00 Welcome03:07 End of August themes06:15 Sun Gate 64, Earth Gate 6326:02 Sun Gate 47, Earth Gate 2236:11 Sun Gate 6, Earth Gate 3659:35 Sun Gate 46, Earth Gate 2501:12:03 Sun Gate 18, Earth Gate 1701:27:47 Transit Wrap Up01:29:41 ICX of the Week- RAX of Planning 3 Join the HDH podcast over on Substack! Get new episodes (and bonuses) delivered straight to your inbox! https://danaphillips.substack.com/ Tired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebook Want insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_reading Grab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechart Follow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive) Website: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

July 29, 20251 hr 37 min

167-August's Human Design Sun and Earth Transits: Emotional Clarity, What You're Saying Yes To & Community Bonds

August is serving up some serious energy shifts, and most of the month's grounding energy is in the emotional solar plexus - which means don't rush anything.We're diving into five major transits that are asking you to get real about leadership, answers, commitments, connections, and community. From Gate 7's influence energy paired with Gate 13's storytelling wisdom, to Gate 29's full-body YES energy that you better mean when you say it.Key highlights: • Why Gate 4 might have you feeling pressured to have all the answers (and how to ground those solutions in your actual values) • The intimacy/abundance pairing that's perfect for connection - but only when you're emotionally clear • How the community channel at month's end is asking: are you with the right people? • Real-life transit examples, including Hali's perfect Gate 56 breakthrough momentPlus we break down the shadow sides of these energies, because let's be honest - things can get messy if you're not paying attention.This episode is for anyone who wants to work WITH August's energy instead of being overwhelmed by it. Incarnation Cross of the Week: Right Angle Cross of Laws 2-Timestamps:00:00 EP167- August Transits02:15 Transits in real life- Hali Shares an example07:04 Sun Gate 7, Earth Gate 1327:55 Sun Gate 4, Earth Gate 4944:03 Sun Gate 29, Earth Gate 3058:28 The importance of honoring Sacral Yes01:03:22 Sun Gate 59, Earth Gate 5501:16:21 Sun Gate 40, Earth Gate 3701:30:27 ICX of the Week01:35:51 Wrap UpTired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartReady to gain clarity on your Human Design with Dana? Book a Clarity Session now! https://cal.com/DanaHDHFollow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive)Website: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

July 22, 20251 hr 33 min

166- The 4/1 Profile in Human Design: Looks Solid, But Feels Uncertain

As a 4/1 myself, I to give real insight on this rare Human Design profile. This episode covers the real 4/1 experience - that foundation-seeking line 1 paired with relationship-focused line 4, why we're like trains on tracks (you can ride along but we're not changing course), and why the whole "bonus life" thing is honestly kind of annoying. Plus examples from fellow 4/1s who've stayed true to themselves no matter what the world wanted from them. What we covered in this episode:• Why 4/1s are only 2% of the population • The oak tree analogy and what it actually means to be "fixed fate" • Why we look steady on the outside but feel uncertain on the inside • How that line 1 foundation-seeking pairs with line 4 relationship focus • Real examples: Eminem, Sara Bareilles, and Lena Dunham (all 4/1s!)The thing about being a 4/1 is that people see this solid, dependable energy – and yes, we are that. But we're also constantly researching, constantly building those foundations of knowledge because we genuinely want to feel secure enough to share what we've learned.Whether you're a 4/1 or you love someone who is, understanding this profile helps everything make sense. Why we can't just "go with the flow." Why our networks matter so much. Why we'll bend to keep the peace but won't actually change who we are.Timestamps:00:00 Welcome and Intro03:10 Community Call04:24 Intro to Profiles10:28 House Analogy13:44 Why is the 4/1 so rare?20:34 Line 123:39 Line 426:44 Fixed Fate?33:43 My experience as a 4/141:34 If you love a 4/1...43:43 Bonus Life?46:31 Challenges of 4/1 Profile50:22 4/1 Generators nad Manifesting Generators53:40 4/1 Projector56:22 4/1 Manifestor57:55 4/1 Reflector01:02:14 Eminem01:10:31 Sara Baraeilles01:17:19 Lena Dunham01:25:15 Wrap Up 4/1 Profile01:25:55 ICX of the WeekListen if you want the real experience of a 4/1 and what it's actually like to live as this profile.P.S. – If you're a 4/1 listening to this, please reach out and let me know if this resonates. We rare ones need to stick together. 😉 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe

July 15, 20251 hr 25 min

165-The 2/5 Profile in Human Design: Wants to Hide, But Keeps Getting Called Out

Hali and I are digging into the 2/5 profile, and exploring the unique tension between wanting to hide away (the Hermit) and being called out to share innovative solutions (the Heretic). This profile carries natural gifts they often don't recognize themselves, (but others definitely see), creating a complex dance of projections, boundaries, and authentic expression.We break down how the 2/5 profile shows up differently across all energy types (Generator, Manifesting Generator, Projector, Manifestor, and Reflector), why these individuals need so much alone time to understand their gifts, and how to navigate the constant pull between invisibility and impact.Key topics: projection fields, hermit energy, line 5 universalizing, sacral response for 2/5s, boundaries and discernment, and why being called out doesn't mean you have to say yes.Timestamps:6:19 Intro to Profiles14:27 House Analogy18:30 Line 222:08 Line 523:19 Projections30:24Challenges32:43 2/5 Sacrals (Generator and Manifesting Generators)40:11 2/5 Projector43:26 2/5 Manifestor45:482/5 Reflector47:45 2/5 examples48:22 Prince William58:07 Adele1:08:28 Kevin Costner1:16:09 Wrap Up 2/51:17:44 ICX of the WeekJoin the HDH podcast over on Substack! Get new episodes (and bonuses) delivered straight to your inbox! https://danaphillips.substack.com/Tired of fighting your own energy? Your Human Design for Energetic Clarity guidebook translates your Human Design into practical wisdom so you can stop forcing what doesn't work and start living what does. Grab yours here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/guidebookWant insight on your design, on your time? Check out the customized Audio Human Design Reading: https://www.humandesignhive.com/audio_readingGrab your FREE copy of your Human Design chart (Bodygraph) Here: https://www.humandesignhive.com/freechartReady to gain clarity on your Human Design with Dana? Book a Clarity Session now! https://cal.com/DanaHDHNeed some Human Design informed intuitive guidance? Check out my Email Intuitive Reading offer! https://humandesignhive.com/EmailReadingFollow Dana on IG: Instagram (@humandesignhive)Website: https://www.humandesignhive.comemail: Dana@humandesignhive.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit danaphillips.substack.com/subscribe