The Financial Independence Show

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Cody Berman and Justin Taylor believe in the concept of “Financial Independence For All”. The Financial Independence Show focuses on REAL stories of individuals on their journey to financial independence. Each episode aims to include actionable insights and takeaways for listeners to implement into their own financial situation. The podcast covers topics like building wealth, entrepreneurship, investing, money mindset, small business, frugality, geoarbitrage, side hustles, real estate, productivity, travel, and so much more. Sit back, tune in, and join a community of like-minded people who are changing their lives through financial independence.

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August 18, 202647 min

The Healthcare Heist: Will Healthcare Derail Your Retirement Plan | Jordan Grumet

Jordan Grumet (a.k.a. Doc G) joins us again to unpack his latest book, The Healthcare Heist, and explain just how broken the American healthcare system is. But most importantly, he shares what we can do about it. In this episode, we cover: The inner workings of our broken healthcare system How to choose your primary care physician The best ways to save money on prescriptions How private equity created an alignment problem Why healthcare costs have skyrocketed The power of story in medicine and healthcare Preventative healthcare and how to minimize doctor’s visits Which types of insurance make sense And much more. If you got value from this episode, please subscribe and share it with a friend! Links From the Episode The Healthcare Heist JordanGrumet.com YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0IjSPixt8c Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

August 12, 202640 min

$2M Net Worth in 6 Years as a Travel Nurse | Sophia Khawly

Sophia Khawly (The Traveling NP) is an optimizer in the true sense of the word. Not only has she landed a travel job that pays her $200K+, but she also spends just $1k per month and has multiple other side hustles. In this episode, she covers: How she saves over 90% of her income Why travel jobs can help eliminate your biggest expenses Her mini-retirement strategy Why she chooses to work instead of retiring Her full investment strategy and retirement account breakdown How travel hacking has saved her thousands Owning rental properties in other countries And much more. If you got value from this episode, please subscribe and share it with a friend! Links From the Episode Traveling NP (Website) Traveling NP (Instagram) Wealthy NP (Instagram) Justin’s Airbnb Geohacking Episode Retire by 30 (Cody’s Book) YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uRWXog6Pi8&feature=youtu.be Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

July 30, 202641 min

Coast FI with $500K by Age 30 | Evan Lawler

Evan Lawler is a man with a plan. At 25, he’s already invested $200,000 and is aiming to hit his Coast FI number of $500,000 before his 30th birthday. In this episode, we discuss: How Evan saves over 50% of his income The difference between frugal and cheap How to minimize the “Big 3” (housing, transportation, and food) Gamifying frugality and enjoying the journey Where Evan invests his money The $500K at age 30 Coast FI plan A new way to look at travel And much more. If you got value from this episode, please subscribe and share it with a friend! Links From the Episode The Financial Foundation Instagram The Financial Foundation Facebook Page Retire by 30 (Cody’s Book) YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWky9lIIdzI Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

July 13, 202654 min

How to Legally Avoid Taxes with Real Estate | Josh Mettle

Today’s guest is Josh Mettle from Neo Home Loans . This is the type of episode where you’ll want to take plenty of notes (we sure did!). Josh is a master at understanding the tax code and how to use it to legally avoid taxes through real estate. In this episode, you’ll hear him explain: Why inflation destroys debt 1031 exchanges Bonus depreciation and cost segregation How the rich use debt Generational wealth through step-ups in basis His daily routine for business, mindset, family, and fitness And much more. If you got value from this episode, the best things you can do are to subscribe and share it with a friend! Links From the Episode Neo Home Loans Josh Mettle Instagram YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyBxo3WNbUw Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

July 6, 202647 min

From Book Tour Manager to Retire by 30 with Grant Sabatier

In this episode, the tables are turned. Grant Sabatier interviews Cody about his new book, Retire by 30 , and everything that’s changed since he’s reached FI. At the beginning of the podcast, you’ll hear a clip from 2019, just a few days into their 3-month book tour together. And wow, so much has changed since then. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did putting it together! Links from the Episode Retire by 30 (Cody’s book) – https://retireby30book.com/ Original Episode with Grant – https://grantsabatier.com/podcast/ Grant’s Website – https://grantsabatier.com Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

June 22, 202646 min

From College Dropout to 8-Figure Entrepeneur | Chandler Bolt

Today’s guest is Chandler Bolt, founder of SelfPublishing.com That’s the company that helped Cody publish Retire by 30 and hit bestseller status in three categories within 16 hours of launch. Chandler dropped out of college with three months of runway, moved across the country to live with his mentor, and was a millionaire by 21. Today, he’s built an 8-figure business that has helped over 7,000 people publish their books. His latest book alone generated roughly $7 million in revenue over the past year. He still drives his 2004 Nissan Altima. In this episode, you’ll hear Chandler explain: The mindset behind his financial decisions Why he kept his expenses near zero even as his income exploded How he thinks about delayed gratification The investment mistakes he’s made along the way Why a book is one of the highest-leverage things an entrepreneur can do How self-publishing differs from traditional publishing Why the most valuable thing you can do this week is spend 15 minutes mind-mapping your book idea And much more! Whether you’re thinking about writing a book or just want to hear how someone compounds money and opportunity at an unusual pace, this one’s worth your time. Links From the Episode SelfPublishing.Com Book a Call with Chandler’s Team Self-Publishing School YouTube Chandler Bolt on Instagram Chandler World YouTube Cody’s Book — Retire by 30 YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kYPbvTxXxU Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

June 11, 202644 min

$5M Exit, 700K Followers, and Now THIS | Jeremy Schneider

Today’s episode is a long-awaited return visit from Jeremy Schneider of Personal Finance Club. Five years ago, Jeremy joined us fresh off selling his tech company for over $5 million, already retired at 36, and just starting to build what would become one of the most trusted personal finance Instagram accounts online. Today, he has 700k followers, has grown his net worth to roughly $7 million, almost entirely from index fund growth, and has launched a brand new company called Nectarine . Nectarine is a marketplace of flat-fee financial advisors with no commissions, no assets under management fees, just transparent pricing listed directly on the site. Jeremy explains how it works, who it’s actually for (and who probably doesn’t need it), and why he’s been building the whole thing in public. You’ll also hear Why the most important piece of the “how to get rich” pie chart isn’t what you invest in What the Dunning-Kruger curve looks like for the average investor Why the best investors might just be the ones who forget they have an account And much more! As always, if you found this episode helpful, let us know and/or leave a review. If you know someone who would enjoy it, sharing is caring! Links From the Episode Hello Nectarine: https://thefishow.com/ nectarine Personal Finance Club: https://personalfinanceclub. com Personal Finance Club IG: https://www.instagram.com/ personalfinanceclub Dunning Kruger post: https://www.instagram.com/p/ DOHIX5jksco/ Nectarine transparency post: https://www.instagram.com/p/ DTLVrppD7RS/?img_index=1 How to get rich post: https://www.instagram.com/p/ DT8BvNLEgRc/?img_index=1 Stock market history post: https://www.instagram.com/p/ DW35p0liMte/ YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEN8KlUtG28 Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Blog) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s blog)

June 5, 202638 min

Living a Life Well Worth It (+ Justin’s New Business)

Today’s episode is a little different as Justin pulls back the curtain on his and Leslie’s new venture, Life Well Worth It . This passion project is a fitness and wellness retreat business that started with one big idea: what if they could take the unique lifestyle they created and the passions they’ve picked up along the way, and bring others along for the ride? You can actually join them on their next retreat in Nice, France, October 28 – November 3 (Early Bird pricing until June 9) The name Life Well Worth It comes from the concept of designing the life that’s best for you instead of simply falling in line with what society tells you to do. It also tries to highlight the mindset that Justin always used with his finances, where he never skimped on the experiences and expenses that were truly worth it and stripped away the rest. The idea all started with a realization after their six-month international trip. They loved the way they traveled, but they still found themselves missing community. So they combined their love of adventure, fitness, and community and booked a villa in Malaga, Spain, with 11 people. No prior retreat experience. Just a non-refundable Airbnb and a group chat. They cover the full breakdown of how the first retreat came together, from the near-cancellation moment, the structure of the Spain retreat (6 days, 5 nights, catamaran cruise, a gorge hike, race day, and a lot of home-cooked meals), and how the rave reviews left them with the desire for their next trip in Nice, France. You’ll also get a full explainer on what Hyrox actually is and why it’s more accessible than it sounds. They’ll also help you recognize how the skills you’ve built without even realizing it might be worth more than you think. If you’ve ever wondered what FI actually unlocks in everyday life, this episode is a pretty good answer. Links From the Episode Life Well Worth It Life Well Worth It on Instagram Full Recap of Spain Retreat What Is Hyrox? (Official Site) Previous Episode: Our 2025 Goals YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHRIWRUYhUs Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Blog) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s blog)

May 25, 202619 min

Cody’s Very First Podcast (And What’s Changed)

Back in January of 2018, I (Cody) attended my first in-person FI event — CampFI in Florida. I was 21 years old at the time, and my mind was blown. I was meeting real people who retired in their 20s, 30s, and 40s. The guys from ChooseFI decided to record a community episode featuring some folks from the event, and to my surprise, they asked me to come up to the microphone. What you hear in this episode is my first podcast appearance ever. And then “future Cody” comes in and comments on what 21-year-old Cody said. The craziest part? Is actually how little has changed in terms of philosophy and strategy. This stuff works, and you’ll see just how well from this podcast. It was a lot of fun digging up this episode from the archives, and I hope you enjoy it! Links from the Episode Retire by 30 (my book!) – https://retireby30book.com/ ChooseFI – https://choosefi.com/ CampFI – https://campfi.org/ Get Rich Slowly Guest Post – https://www.getrichslowly.org/cody-berman-story/ Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Website) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s Website)

May 20, 202642 min

He Quit His Day Job by Doing This | Cory Jacobson

Today’s episode is a long-overdue follow-up with Cory Jacobson of The Wealth Juice Podcast . Four years ago, Cory and his business partner Ryan joined us while still working their day jobs, building a real estate portfolio on the side, and documenting every step of the journey. A lot has changed since then. Cory has since left his W-2 behind, grown the portfolio to 80-90 units, become a licensed real estate agent, and launched a mentorship program helping others buy their first and second investment properties. He’s also gotten engaged and is navigating the realities of full-time entrepreneurship for the first time. In this episode, Cory shares the honest income journey since quitting — including a tough first year and why he’s projecting a much bigger 2026. You’ll also hear his tactical take on managing lumpy self-employment income, how he still finds deals that hit the 1% rule, and why he believes the “you missed the window” crowd has it all wrong. Whether you’re still in your W-2 grinding toward your first property or trying to figure out how to make the leap, Cory’s story is a great reminder that the timeline is long and that planting seeds is the whole game. Links From the Episode Cory & Ryan’s First Appearance on The FI Show (2022) The Wealth Juice Podcast Wealth Juice Instagram (@wealthjuiceofficial) Wealth Juice YouTube Wealth Juice Mentorship Program YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfWQFUnHbRE Join the Community We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review ! >> You can do that by clicking here << Learn More About Your Hosts CodyDBerman.com (Cody’s Blog) Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s blog)