
the Coaching Studio with Guest Dr. Jeffrey Hull, BCC
The Best Leaders Are Trying to Make Themselves Obsolete — with Jeffrey Hull Dr. Jeffrey Hull has spent thirty years studying what makes a leader effective, and his central finding cuts against how most of us are trained to think about power: the goal isn't to hold it, it's to give it away. In this conversation, Jeffrey traces that idea back to an unexpected discovery in his doctoral research, walks through the leadership shadow framework from his new book with Margaret Moore, and makes the case that strength and courage are not the same thing at all. In this episode: How a psychology dissertation on "healing communities" led Jeffrey into leadership The four-step framework for recognizing and working through leadership shadows Why strength and courage are different capacities, and why leaders need both The three levels of humility: intellectual, cultural, and ecological What AI means for the future of coaching and leadership About Jeffrey Hull Dr. Jeffrey Hull is Executive Director of the Institute of Coaching, a Harvard Medical School affiliate, and a Clinical Instructor in Psychology at Harvard Medical School. He is the author of Shift and the best-selling Flex: The Art and Science of Leadership in a Changing World , and co-author, with Margaret Moore, of The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact , winner of the 2025 Thinkers50 Award for Coaching and Mentoring. Links Find Jeffrey at his website The Institute of Coaching LinkedIn Book: The Science of Leadership Book: Flex Book: Shift To find the recommended books, please visit my website . Season 1-6 Host: Lyssa deHart, LICSW, MCC, BCC Let's Connect on LinkedIn Website Lyssa deHart Join the Monthly Coaches Q&A my treat! Producer: Michele Logan Video Editor: Lyssa deHart Social Media: Lizana Guillen Music: Momentuum - Created with Eleven Labs Subscribe, Rate, & Follow on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.















