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The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter

Hosted by Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter

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937

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Aug 2026

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Helping Singers, Songwriters, and Indie Artists Create Leverage In the Music Business.

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August 14, 202631 min

Song Title Challenge #219: "Bottle Blonde" w/ Hit Songwriter, Terri Jo Box

In this very special Song Title Challenge as Brent and Johnny welcome hit songwriter Terri Jo Box, and they craft 5-6 different conceptual angles to write song entitled "Bottle Blonde". Terri Jo is a longtime friend of Johnny and Brent's, and for the last 10 plus years, the owner and hostess with the Mostest of the Music Row Freak Show, Nashville's most popular curated songwriter showcase. She's written songs on four Grammy-nominated albums, a CMA-nominated album of the year, and her song "Dear Old Sun" was on Miranda Lambert's 2018 ACM album of the year, Weight Of These Wings. She's also written songs recorded by, and this is just a few of them, Eric Church, Cody Johnson, Tricia Yearwood, Patti Loveless, several songs by Lainey Wilson and Ashley McBride, including Ashley's latest radio single, "What If We Don't", which just went number one on satellite radio as it pushes forward to conquering P1 radio. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

August 11, 202648 min

Ep 535: How To Improve As A Songwriter...FAST

CLIMBer, smart songwriters know they need to improve, but how do you improve as quickly as possible? Let's talk about it today on the show. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

August 4, 202653 min

Ep 534: CLIMB CLASSIC - Spotify Myths

CLIMBers, we have an interview with A-List rock bass player Marco Mendoza (Thin Lizzy, Whitesnake, Blue Murder, Dead Daisies) that was supposed to drop today. Marco was setting out on tour with Adrian Vandenberg (Whitesnake, Vandenberg guitarist) and Vinnie Moore (UFO); unfortunately, Adrian fell ill with a bacterial infection, which forced him to postpone the tour...So we chose to keep the interview in the vault to drop it once the tour gets rebooked. Please pray and send some love to Adrian! Here's the breakdown of the Classic Episode we're putting out in its place: I keep hearing artists talk about choosing this streaming platform over that streaming platform because it "pays" better. There is no set streaming rate for any streaming service. What the hell does that mean? Today, we're going to dive into why Spotify pays the least per stream, but you'd better be on there. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 31, 202646 min

Song Title Challenge #218: "No Help For That" w/ Mary Kutter

Johnny & Brent welcome BBR Music Group artist, Mary Kutter, one of country music's most exciting emerging voices. With a sound that blends classic country storytelling with modern energy, she's been building a loyal fan base through authentic songs, powerful performances, and a relentless work ethic in the writing room and on social media. She's earned charting cuts by Bailey Zimmerman, Nate Smith, and Zach John King. Today, they tackle the title "No Help For That," sent in by CLIMBer, Gordon Donaldson. If you want to write like a pro, you need to think like a pro. And these episodes help you do that. Connect with Mary Kutter Here: Facebook: @MaryKutter Instagram: @MaryKutter TikTok: @MaryKutter Website: https://marykutter.com Label Signing Press Release: CLICK HERE The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 28, 202655 min

Ep 533: Two Pro Writers, Four Big Lessons

CLIMBer, what if I told you that two pro songwriters gave advice that sounded kind of opposite, and they're probably both right? Stick around because our conversations might completely change how you approach your songwriting CLIMB. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 21, 20261 hr 2 min

Ep 532: IGNORE The Details In Promotion

CLIMBers, stop focusing on the details when you're trying to figure out how to promote your music. Today, I'm going to hip you to several different artists' social media accounts that are huge or currently blowing up. If your mindset is that you'll see something you can't replicate for one reason or another because you're focusing on the details, then you're right. Don't do it, right? But if you forget the details and focus on the fundamentals of why these accounts are growing, you'll be on the right track to crafting your unique way of growing your own account. So listen up. UPDATE: Since we recorded this episode, Evelyn Errante's TikTok account has grown by over 6,000 followers in a two-to-three-day period because she began choosing big songs that were FAR away from her country lane...food for thought. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 17, 202643 min

Song Title Challenge #217: "The Sculptor's Hand" w/ After Grace

Brent & Johnny welcome After Grace, an Arkansas duo of brothers-in-law, Cody Clark and Jared Moffitt, to The Challenge, where we create 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song titled "The Sculptor's Hand". Connect with After Grace: Facebook: @AfterGrace Instagram: @AfterGraceBand TikTok: @AfterGraceBand YouTube: @AfterGraceBand Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 14, 20261 hr 4 min

Ep 531: Interview w/ Hit Songwriter, Michael August

CLIMBer, you have 365 days to make some serious progress in the music business. What are you doing on day one, and what are you gonna do for the next 365? We're gonna chop it up today with Michael August, who is not only a hit songwriter, friend of the show, and the GM of Demolition Music, but also has an incredible story of how he systematized the first 365 days of his journey into the Nashville music business. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 10, 202616 min

Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Listen To Your Body

This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 7, 20261 hr 5 min

Ep 530: Interview w/ Fox Rothschild Music Attorneys, Heidy Vaquerano,and Cynthia Katz

CLIMBers, don't give up on your artist dream just yet! The outlook for your ability to earn more money as an indie artist amid a changing music industry and the rise of AI is improving steadily. That's not just my opinion; today, we welcome two Fox Rothschild music attorneys who are architecting the huge catalog purchases you've been reading about. They just completed the Harry Chapin deal. They do sync licenses, IP opportunities, and more for artists like you. Don't miss this episode! If You Need A Music Attorney, Contact Cynthia and Heidy Here: Fox Rothschild LLP Attorneys At Law The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com. Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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