The Clever Girls Know Podcast With Bola Sokunbi

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The Clever Girls Know Podcast is your go-to space for real, relatable conversations about money, business, and building wealth — without shame, without judgment, and without confusion. I'm Bola Sokunbi, founder of Clever Girl Finance, and I created this podcast to help you take control of your finances, build confidence, and create lasting wealth with practical strategies that actually work in real life. I share actionable tips and interview incredible guests who are navigating real life and real money decisions, just like you. Whether you're building wealth, working toward financial independence, investing, saving, or paying off debt, you'll find the guidance and motivation you need to keep going. Ready to take the next step? Start building real wealth with my book Clever Girl Millionaire: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books You can also access 30+ completely free courses and resources at https://clevergirlfinance.com

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June 11, 202613 min

429: You're Making More Money But Still Broke? 7 Mistakes Keeping You Stuck

Your salary keeps increasing, but somehow you're still living paycheck to paycheck. If you've ever gotten a raise, promotion, or new job and wondered where all the extra money went, you're not alone. On this podcast episode, I'm breaking down the real reasons why earning more money doesn't automatically make you wealthier, and what you can do to finally get ahead financially. We'll talk about lifestyle inflation, rising fixed expenses, saving and investing strategies, debt, budgeting, and the mindset shifts that help you turn higher income into real wealth. You'll learn: Why lifestyle creep keeps so many high earners broke How fixed expenses quietly consume your raises The pay-yourself-first strategy that actually works Why debt may be stealing your income growth How to create a spending plan that supports your goals The difference between saving money and building wealth Why defining your version of "enough" matters If you're tired of making more money without making financial progress, this episode will help you create a plan that allows you to keep more, save more, invest more, and build lasting wealth. New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

June 9, 202643 min

428: Building a Purpose-Driven Business Without Losing Yourself

On this episode of the podcast, we're joined by Marcia Armstrong, MBA, founder of A Purpose Life and a multi-award-winning finance educator and business consultant, for an insightful conversation about building a purpose-driven business without losing yourself in the process. With more than 15 years of experience in the finance industry, Marcia has helped individuals and organizations make strategic financial decisions that lead to sustainable success. She shares her journey from having a strong foundation in personal finance to navigating the very different realities of entrepreneurship, including the challenges of managing cash flow, pricing, business growth, and the emotional weight that often comes with being a founder. This episode is packed with practical lessons for entrepreneurs who want to build profitable businesses while protecting their wellbeing and staying aligned with their purpose. What Marcia Discussed on the Podcast: Her journey into entrepreneurship and the inspiration behind launching A Purpose Life. The differences between managing personal finances and managing business finances. Why financial confidence in your personal life doesn't automatically translate to business success. Financial lessons learned the hard way during the early stages of entrepreneurship. Navigating the pressure of being solely responsible for business and personal financial stability. The shift from reactive financial decisions to intentional planning and strategy. Financial systems and habits that created more structure, clarity, and peace of mind. Why entrepreneurs need to separate business performance from personal identity. How her approach to pricing, cash flow, and growth has evolved over time. Advice for entrepreneurs who avoid looking at their numbers because of fear or emotional attachment. Building a financially sustainable business without falling into burnout. The business and money lessons she wishes she had learned earlier. Her clever girl superpower. Where listeners can connect with her and learn more about her work. How to Keep Up With Marcia: Follow on Instagram: @a.purpose.life Connect on LinkedIn: Marcia Armstrong Learn more: apurposelife246.com New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

June 4, 202613 min

427: The Real Reason You Can't Stay Financially Disciplined (And How To Make It Easier)

Why does financial discipline feel so hard sometimes? Why do you keep overspending even when you genuinely want to stop? On this episode, I'm breaking down the real reasons financial discipline feels difficult, and why it has far less to do with willpower than most people think. You'll learn: Why relying on motivation keeps people stuck How your environment impacts your spending habits The systems that make managing money easier Why all-or-nothing thinking sabotages your progress How to build habits that actually stick The mindset shifts that help you stay consistent long term If you've been feeling frustrated with your money habits, this episode will help you stop blaming yourself and start creating systems that actually support your financial goals. Because building wealth is not about being perfect. It's about building a financial life that works for you consistently over time. New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

June 2, 202615 min

426: Why You Keep Overspending (And How To Finally Stop)

You know you probably shouldn't have bought it… but you did anyway. And no — it's not because you're "bad with money." Overspending is rarely just a money problem. It's emotional, behavioral, psychological, and often deeply connected to your habits, environment, and past experiences with money. On this episode, I'm breaking down the REAL reasons why people overspend, even when they know better, and how to finally start changing those habits for good. If you've struggled with impulse spending, emotional spending, lifestyle creep, or constantly feeling like your money disappears, this video is for you. You'll learn: Why emotional spending happens How social media and your environment influence your spending The psychology behind impulse purchases Why budgeting alone often doesn't work How to stop overspending without shame or guilt Practical strategies to become more intentional with money The truth is: awareness changes everything. Once you understand why you overspend, you can finally start building habits that support your financial goals instead of sabotaging them. New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

May 26, 202627 min

425: How to Raise Money-Smart Kids with Confidence and Purpose With Jamie Bosse

On this episode of the podcast, we're joined by Jamie Bosse—Financial Planner, author, and mom of four—for an empowering conversation about how to raise financially confident kids and introduce investing early. Jamie is passionate about helping young families take control of their finances while teaching children practical money skills that will serve them for life. As the author of Investing for Tweens, Money Boss Mom, and the Milton the Money Savvy Pup children's book series, she believes financial literacy should start long before adulthood. In this episode, Jamie shares simple, realistic ways parents can teach investing, saving, and healthy money habits without overwhelm—while also modeling confidence, balance, and intentionality at home. What Jamie Discussed on the Podcast: Her background and what inspired her passion for helping families raise money-smart kids. Why teaching investing and financial literacy early is so important for tweens and young children. Advice for parents who feel intimidated teaching money lessons while still figuring out finances themselves. The most important financial lessons tweens should learn before becoming teenagers. Simple and engaging ways to introduce investing to children. Common mistakes families make when teaching kids about money and how to avoid them. How to teach delayed gratification and smart saving without creating fear or guilt around spending. How being a mom of four shaped her approach to financial education. Practical ways to make money conversations part of everyday family life. Mindset shifts that help children grow into financially confident adults. How to Keep Up With Jamie: Instagram: @MoneyBossMom Facebook: Money Boss Mom Websites: CGNadvisors.com Personal site: moneybossmom.com More of her books: miltonthemoneysavvypup.com New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

May 21, 20269 min

424: Money Moves Every Newlywed Should Make Right Away

You just got married, congratulations! This is one of the most exciting chapters of your life… but it's also one of the most important times to get your money right. Because here's the truth: merging your life also means merging your finances — and if you don't do it intentionally, money can quickly become a source of stress instead of strength in your marriage. On this episode, I'm walking you through 9 smart money moves every newly married couple should make right away to build a strong financial foundation together. Whether you're combining finances, keeping things separate, or doing a hybrid approach — these steps will help you avoid common mistakes and start building wealth as a team. You'll learn key tips on: How to talk openly about money with your spouse How to structure your bank accounts as a couple How to align your financial goals and avoid conflict What to update immediately after getting married How to build an emergency fund and protect your future Why estate planning matters (even early on) Marriage is about partnership, and that includes your money. New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

May 19, 202629 min

423: Bankruptcy, Healing And Starting Over

On this episode of the podcast, we're joined by Deora Clairé—Digital Marketing Professional, author, speaker, and Christian bilingual singer-songwriter—for a deeply honest conversation about rebuilding your life after financial and personal setbacks. Deora opens up about her mental health crisis during the pandemic, the experience of filing for bankruptcy at 26, and the reality of starting over from the ground up—financially, emotionally, and spiritually. She shares how she moved from that low point into a high-earning corporate role while intentionally rebuilding her savings, paying down debt, and restoring her credit. Through her story, Deora offers powerful insight into choosing consistency over perfection, releasing financial shame, and finding the confidence to begin again—no matter where you're starting from. What Deora Discussed on the Podcast: Her experience navigating a mental health crisis and how it impacted her finances. What filing for bankruptcy at 26 was really like—emotionally and financially. The reality that habits don't automatically change after debt discharge. The turning point that sparked both mental and financial transformation. What choosing consistency over perfection looks like in real life. Mindset shifts needed to break cycles of debt and negative net worth. Letting go of financial shame and rebuilding confidence. Advice for anyone feeling like they've completely messed up their finances. How to Keep Up With Deora Clairé: Follow on Instagram: @deoraclaire Learn more: deoraclaire.com New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

May 14, 20268 min

422: Paid Off Debt? Do These 10 Things Next (Don't Mess This Up)

If you've paid off your debt… first of all, congratulations. That is a huge financial milestone. But here's the truth most people don't talk about: What you do next matters just as much as paying it off. Because if you don't have a plan, that extra money can disappear just as quickly as it used to go toward debt. On this episode, I'm walking you through 10 smart money moves to make after paying off debt so you can stay debt-free and start building real wealth. You'll learn: What to do immediately after paying off debt How to avoid lifestyle creep Where to put your extra money now How to build your emergency fund the right way How to start investing after debt How to shift your mindset from debt-free to wealth builder This is your next chapter. Paying off debt is often about survival. What comes next is about ownership, investing, and long-term wealth. New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

May 12, 202628 min

421: $80K in Debt to Homeowner: Angela's Financial Transformation

On this episode of the podcast, we're joined by Angela Weikel, founder of The Moneta Academy, for a powerful conversation about what it really takes to rebuild your finances while navigating burnout, service work, and real life pressure. She shares her personal journey from being nearly $80,000 in debt and emotionally overwhelmed to achieving financial stability, paying off her car, and becoming a homeowner. Through a nervous-system–informed lens, Angela reframes financial stress and burnout not as personal failure, but as a response to systemic strain, and offers a more compassionate, sustainable path to building clarity, confidence, and peace with money. Angela is deeply committed to supporting the helpers—case managers, advocates, and system leaders—who carry so much for others, often at the expense of themselves. What Angela Discussed on the Podcast: Her background and what led her to join Clever Girl Finance. What life felt like while carrying nearly $80,000 in debt—emotionally and financially. The decision to stop staying stuck and take control of her finances. Building a relationship with money rooted in clarity, consistency, and self-trust. The specific tools and frameworks that helped her pay off debt. What made her financial transformation sustainable—not just temporary. The difference between financial stability and true financial peace. How goal setting helped turn intention into real, measurable progress. Challenging the belief that financial stability isn't possible for everyone. How her personal journey now shapes the way she supports others through The Moneta Academy. Advice for women who pour into others but feel financially and emotionally drained themselves. Her clever girl superpower. Where to learn more about her work and offerings. How to Keep Up With Angela Weikel: LinkedIn: Angela Weikel Instagram: @the_moneta_academy Join her waitlist: Mini Course Waitlist Learn more: Angela Weikel New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance

May 5, 20268 min

420: 8 Money Moves Every New Parent Needs to Make Right Now

New Book - Clever Girl Millionaire; A Guide to Redefining What's Possible, Turning Ambitions into Actions, and Dreams into Millions - Available to order now If you just had a baby, or you're about to, your life has changed in a big way. And your finances? They've changed too. In this episode, I'm breaking down 8 essential money moves every new parent needs to make right now to protect their family and build long-term financial security. These are practical, real-life steps you can take immediately—even if you're exhausted and short on time. Because the truth is: the decisions you make in these early months can have a lasting impact on your financial future. You'll learn key tips on: How to update your budget for your new reality Why your emergency fund needs to grow—and by how much What to know about adding your baby to health insurance Why life insurance is critical once you have a child Updating your beneficiaries and create a will Starting to save for college with a 529 plan Thinking through your income and career plan as a parent Why automating your savings is a game-changer For new and expecting parents: Whether you're a new mom, expecting your first baby, or growing your family, these money tips will help you feel more confident and prepared with your finances. More Clever Girl Finance Resources: 👋 New to Clever Girl Finance? Start here: https://clevergirlfinance.com/start-here ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: @clevergirlfinance