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The Audit Podcast

The Audit Podcast

Hosted by Trent Russell

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356

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Sep 2026

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EN

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On the show you can expect to hear from everyone: from the intern, to the IT audit director, CAE and audit committee members because all of their opinions are important. We'll talk about integrating tech into audit, how to get quick wins, the latest SOX guidance and whatever other topics the guests want to talk about and whatever you want to hear about. Be sure to subscribe to the show in whatever you're listening to it on now and we'll talk to you soon.

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September 8, 202635 min

Ep 294: How Auditors Can Take Back Control of Their Time w/ Bill Engelhaupt (Auditology)

This week on The Audit Podcast, Bill Engelhaupt, author of The Productive Auditor and founder and principal of Auditology LLC , joins the show to discuss how internal audit professionals can take back control of their time, reduce distractions, and build more productive audit teams. Bill explains why productivity isn't simply about getting more things done. It's about protecting your attention for the work that matters most . He shares how interruptions, fragmented work, and constant notifications can turn a task that should take 20 or 30 minutes into an hour, and why creating dedicated blocks of uninterrupted time can make such a difference. Bill also breaks down his approach to the "Power Hour," a protected block of time where teams agree to eliminate interruptions and focus entirely on getting important work done. He explains how audit leaders can establish this as a team norm and why it can be just as valuable for managers and leaders who need uninterrupted time to review and complete work. The conversation then shifts to prioritization and productivity for audit leaders . Bill explains why teams can fall into the trap of cherry-picking easier tasks while more important work gets pushed aside. He shares how sprints, daily huddles, and clear team priorities can help auditors stay focused on the work that matters most. Bill also discusses psychological safety and its role in high-performing audit teams . He explains why auditors and clients need to feel comfortable speaking up about problems and concerns, and how leaders can create an environment where people feel safe sharing uncomfortable information. He also introduces the idea of a pre-mortem as a way to identify potential problems before an audit begins. The conversation also covers building trust with audit clients , including why auditors should focus on asking questions that encourage real information rather than simply confirming what they already expect to hear. Bill explains why asking "why?" can sometimes put people on the defensive and offers a better approach for getting people to open up. Finally, Bill shares practical strategies for managing distractions , from turning off Slack and Teams notifications to putting your phone away and preparing your workspace before starting a focused work block. He also discusses the growing challenge of AI as both a productivity tool and a potential distraction. 03:36 Why Interruptions Are Killing Productivity 05:01 How to Protect Your Attention 06:06 The Power of 90-Minute Work Blocks 08:55 How Fatigue Impacts Audit Judgment 11:29 Why Slack and Teams Make Work Take Longer 12:32 Why Humans Are Wired for Distraction 13:27 When AI Becomes a Productivity Distraction 15:13 What Audit Leaders Should Protect Their Time For 16:54 How to Prioritize the Work That Matters 19:20 The Role of Psychological Safety in Audit Teams 23:05 Using a Pre-Mortem to Identify Problems Early 24:13 How to Build Psychological Safety With Audit Clients 25:44 Asking Better Questions During an Audit 26:33 Why You Should Stop Asking "Why?" 27:53 The One Thing Audit Leaders Can Do Tomorrow 29:27 Practical Ways to Protect Your Focus 32:06 Breaking the Habit of Checking Your Phone 34:12 How Productivity Can Give You Your Life Back Be sure to connect with Bill Engelhaupt on LinkedIn and check out The Productive Auditor and his other resources for practical advice on productivity and internal audit. Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.

September 2, 202630 min

Ep 293: The Future of Internal Audit: AI, Trust, and Human Judgment w/ Rania Bijlani

This week on The Audit Podcast, Rania Bijlani, Founder & CEO of RB Advisory & Consultancy , joins the show to discuss how internal audit leaders can prepare for the future of the profession, embrace AI without losing human judgment, and build stronger partnerships across the organization. Rania explains why auditors need to move beyond simply using AI tools and start thinking about how they can audit AI, govern its use, and become part of the strategic conversation around AI . She breaks down the three biggest risks she sees for auditors: failing to learn AI, using it only superficially, and becoming overly reliant on it. She also explains why discernment and judgment will become even more important as AI takes on more of the work. Rania also shares her approach to helping internal audit teams become AI-ready, emphasizing that training alone isn't enough. Teams need a strategy, an actionable plan, and implementation support to turn what they learn into meaningful change. The conversation then shifts to one of Rania's biggest areas of expertise: building trust, influence, and real partnerships within the organization . She breaks down the foundation of trust, why credibility and shared purpose matter, and how auditors can move beyond policing the business to becoming true partners. Finally, Rania shares the biggest lesson she's learned from hosting her own podcast, Impact Legacy with Rania : across industries and leadership roles, it is the human skills — authenticity, self-belief, strategic thinking, emotional intelligence, and relationship-building — that truly make leaders stand out. Check out Rania's podcast - Impact Legacy with Rania 04:35 Will Auditors Survive AI? 07:02 The Three Biggest AI Risks for Auditors 08:00 Why Auditors Need Discernment, Not Just Judgment 09:24 Why Human Connection Still Matters 14:20 How Internal Audit Leaders Can Prepare for the Future 16:34 Why AI Training Alone Isn't Enough 18:04 How to Build Real Partnerships Within the Organization 19:38 The Foundation of Trust 21:16 Why Relationships Are Built Over Time 22:38 How Trust Builds Influence and Impact 24:12 Lessons From Hosting Impact Legacy 25:03 What Business Leaders Really Care About 26:06 Why Human Skills Make Leaders Stand Out 27:28 Rania's Advice for the Future of Internal Audit Be sure to connect with Rania Bijlani on LinkedIn and check out RB Advisory & Consultancy for more resources on internal audit, risk, governance, leadership, and AI readiness. Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.

August 26, 202620 min

IA on AI - Ai4 Conference Takeaways

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August 19, 20266 min

IA on AI - Share with your CISO

Links: Visa Releases Its AI-Powered Cyber Defense System to Open Source Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel .

August 11, 202648 min

Ep 292: AI and Analytics for Audit Leaders w/ Tim Buckley

This week on The Audit Podcast, Tim Buckley, founder of Beyond the Lines, joins the show to interview Trent Russell, founder of Green Skies Analytics, about how AI and analytics can fundamentally change the way internal audit teams operate. Trent explains why audit leaders need to move beyond isolated AI use cases and think about how technology can reshape the entire audit operating model. He breaks down why teams need an AI and analytics methodology, how AI can improve planning and reporting, and why analytics should be focused on finding meaningful insights rather than simply increasing efficiency. Trent also shares real-world examples of teams using AI agents and orchestration to automate large portions of audit planning, explains how AI can help identify risks auditors may otherwise miss, and discusses the growing importance of human judgment and critical thinking as more audit work becomes automated. He also offers practical advice for audit leaders looking to overcome management resistance and start making meaningful changes today. 05:03 Why AI and Analytics Matter for Audit Leaders 06:18 Why You Need to Rethink the Audit Operating Model 08:21 Isolated AI Use Cases vs. Real Transformation 11:17 Where AI and Analytics Are Overhyped and Underused 16:27 How AI Can Change Audit Planning 19:30 Using AI and Analytics to Improve Audit Quality 23:13 How AI Can Transform Audit Reporting 26:01 Why Auditors Need to Protect Judgment and Critical Thinking 34:47 Governance and the Human-in-the-Loop 43:50 What Audit Leaders Can Change in the Next 30 Days Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.

August 5, 202615 min

IA on AI - Why Data Governance Is the Key to AI Success

What does it actually take to prepare your organization for AI? Is training your own AI model realistic? And why are data governance and process audits becoming more important than ever? In this episode of The AI on AI Podcast , Trent sits down with Brian Kuenzi to demystify open-weight AI models, model training, and the practical steps organizations should take before implementing AI at scale. They discuss why clean, well-governed data is the foundation of successful AI adoption, how process audits can uncover opportunities for automation, and why simply connecting AI to messy systems won't solve underlying business problems. Whether you're an internal auditor, business leader, or AI practitioner, this episode offers practical guidance on building an AI-ready organization—from strengthening data governance to designing workflows that allow AI agents to deliver real value. In this episode: What open-weight AI models are and who should use them What AI model training actually involves Why clean, structured data is essential for AI success How process audits prepare organizations for AI automation The importance of AI and data governance Why disconnected systems limit AI's potential Security, guardrails, and safely deploying AI agents in the enterprise Practical advice for building an AI-ready organization Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.

July 29, 202620 min

IA on AI - The Best AI Tools Right Now for Work and Life w/ Brian Kuenzi

What are the best AI tools to use right now? Is Google Gemini finally catching up to Claude and ChatGPT? And what are open-weight AI models—and why is everyone suddenly talking about them? In this episode of The AI on AI Podcast , Trent sits down with Brian Kuenzi to discuss how their AI workflows have changed, why Gemini has become Brian's go-to personal assistant, and how businesses should think about choosing AI models. They also explore Anthropic's Co-work updates, Microsoft's AI strategy, and why open-weight models could be the next major shift in enterprise AI. Whether you're an internal auditor, business leader, or simply trying to keep up with the rapidly changing AI landscape, this episode breaks down the latest developments in a practical, easy-to-understand way. In this episode: • Why Brian switched from Claude to Gemini • Claude vs. ChatGPT vs. Gemini • Anthropic Co-work updates • Microsoft's evolving AI strategy • What open-weight AI models are • Why model-agnostic AI is the future • Practical advice for implementing AI in your organization Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel .

July 22, 20266 min

IA on AI - The Internal Audit Future (or not)

Links: Tom McLeod's post Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel .

July 15, 20264 min

IA on AI - Why Amazon Has Dropped its Internal AI Usage Leaderboard

Links: Why Amazon Has Dropped its Internal AI Usage Leaderboard Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel .

July 7, 202623 min

Ep. 291: Pioneering in the AI Front w/ Martin Preedy (Reddit)

This week on The Audit Podcast, Martin, Head of Internal Audit at Reddit, joins the show to discuss why the opportunity for internal audit is bigger now than ever and how auditors can move from backseat drivers to helpful copilots. Martin shares how he learned Reddit's complex digital advertising business by being a humble "sponge". He explains his unique hiring strategy—hiring for a "major" in deep technical craft (like data science or engineering) and teaching the "minor" of audit later. He also breaks down his approach to navigating tough risk conversations and reveals how his team uses generative AI to automate 70% of their recurring SOX testing. 02:32 How Martin Uses AI in His Personal Life 03:45 The One Thing Every Auditor Should Do 06:06 How to Learn a New Business Quickly 07:30 Why Internal Audit Has Its Biggest Opportunity Yet 10:13 Rethinking Audit Hiring: Specialists Over Traditional Auditors 14:12 Teaching Audit Skills to Technical Experts 16:12 How to Have Tough Conversations About Risk 18:04 AI Use Cases Inside Reddit's Internal Audit Team 21:24 Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Martin on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn , Instagram , and TikTok . Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel . This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics , the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.

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