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The Art Of Hospitality

The Art Of Hospitality

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Episodes

121

Latest episode

Aug 2026

Language

EN

About the show

The Art of Hospitality is the podcast for vacation rental professionals who want to think differently about what they're building. Each week, Conrad O'Connell and Adam Norko dig into the ideas, strategies, and conversations shaping the vacation rental industry — from AI and operations to guest experience and growth. Less fluff. More depth. Always practical.

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August 19, 2026Episode 19051 min

Are Experiences Changing the Way Guests Book Travel? (With Seth Borko)

In this episode, we interview Seth Borko of Skift Research to talk all things travel trends, the experience economy, vacation rentals, guest behavior, local experiences, AI discoverability, flipping the traditional booking funnel, and a lot MORE! Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Seth Borko Skift Research Living The Dream Divers

August 12, 2026Episode 18948 min

From 6 Units to 430: The Unexpected Journey of Building Sojourn (With Dunniela Kaufman)

In this episode, we interview Dunniela Kaufman of Sojourn to talk all things building a hospitality brand, growing from 6 to 430 vacation rental units, short-term vs. mid-term rentals, changing homeowner and guest expectations, creating consistent brand standards, balancing profitability with a better guest experience, using AI to support human hospitality, and a lot MORE! Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Dunniela Kaufman Sojourn DC

August 5, 2026Episode 18827 min

Why Niche Brands Are the Future of Vacation Rentals (With Bob Milne)

In this episode, Bob Milne discusses the lessons learned from scaling one of the industry's largest vacation rental companies, why niche hospitality brands are on the rise, building First Chair Destinations, balancing technology with exceptional guest experiences, sustainable growth, ski vacation rentals, and a lot MORE! Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Bob Milne First Chair Destinations

July 29, 2026Episode 18750 min

The Biggest AI Shift Coming to Hospitality (With Christian Hyland)

In this episode, we interview Christian to discuss the future of AI in hospitality, the evolution of property management systems, why operators should rethink their AI strategy, custom AI models, hotel vs. vacation rental innovation, and so much MORE! Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Christian H.

July 22, 2026Episode 18649 min

An Industry Veteran Tells Us What's Going On In The Vacation Rental Space Today (With Annie Holcombe)

In this episode, we interview Annie Holcombe to talk all things OTAs, platforms, vacation rental management, podcasting as a growth platform, being independent and a lot MORE! Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Annie Holcombe Alex & Annie Podcast Annie & Co.

July 15, 2026Episode 18546 min

This Might Be The Best Way To Build A Vacation Rental Business? (With James Cornwell)

In this episode, we interview James Cornwell and his excellent accent to talk all things growth, profit, luxury, choosing the right properties to manage and a LOT more... Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell James Cornwell Curated Property

July 8, 2026Episode 18456 min

We've Got A Lot To Learn From The Top Euro Operators (With Cristiana Carpini)

In this episode, we interview Cristiana Carpini from her Italian home to talk all things Europe, regulations, where we're headed, a long-term view, AI disruption and a LOT more. Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Cristiana Carpini Tara Home Consulting

July 1, 2026Episode 18349 min

The Root Problems With Scaling Vacation Rental Brands (With Ashley Ching)

In this episode, we interview Ashley Ching (again!) with Inhaven to talk all things scale, AI, human vs AI, brand standards, why Vacation Rental brands keep failing to grow and a LOT more... Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Ashley Ching Inhaven

June 24, 2026Episode 18245 min

The Best Vacation Rental Marketing Data Might Be Here (With Jamey King)

We're joined this week by Jamey King, industry veteran to talk all things data, finding new sources of data and research to improve your marketing, ROAS improvements, vendors shifting sands in 2026 and a LOT more... Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Jamey King Wiland

June 17, 2026Episode 18150 min

He's On The Bleeding Edge Of AI Adoption In The Vacation Rental Industry... (With Ivan Nikolov)

We're joined this week by Ivan Nikolov of Repull & FantasticStay to talk all things AI, building with agents, workflows, "levels" to AI in the vacation rental industry, pitfalls of current AI tooling and a LOT more... you do not want to miss this one. Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Adam Norko Conrad O'Connell Repull Ivan Nikolov

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