
Drive Tech Forward with an Operating-Model First Approach
The biggest barrier to transformation isn't the technology; it's the humans who have to live with it. On this episode of Pure Signal, hosts Ryan Medellin, Kevin Erickson, and Jake Carter sit down with Cale Maxwell, CEO of Credera Oceania, to talk through what leading change really looks like when change fatigue is already setting in.Cale shares why operating model design should come before technology investment, how to build a measurement framework that keeps transformation funded, and what his ongoing master's in neuroscience has taught him about why change initiatives stall. You'll also hear a candid exchange on how the Oceania market approaches AI adoption differently from the US and UK, and whether that caution is a feature or a liability.For leaders navigating AI adoption, organizational integration, or the pressure to move faster than your people are ready for, this episode offers a grounded, globally-informed perspective. Technology doesn't work until people make it work. The question is whether you're investing accordingly.—Quotes"Technology doesn't work until people make it work. Technology only gets you so far. You've actually got to drive real change, change in human behavior, change in the way the organization works." - Cale Maxwell" People can have data to look at, but can a marketer actually act on that data in real time? In most cases, the answer is still no. So I think we’re data rich, we're intelligence poor." - Cale Maxwell"If you're unclear on what the outcome is, what you're measuring on the other side of that, it's hard to build a business case for what is next." - Cale Maxwell—Timestamps(00:00) Intro(00:43) Cale Maxwell's path to Credera Oceania(04:39) Neuroscience and its relevance to transformation(06:18) The Oceania market(08:50) The case for an operating model first approach(12:07) The human side of change(14:08) Budgeting for change management(22:21) Data silos and the intelligence gap(24:21) Getting clear on measurement to unlock further investment(31:06) Leading through uncertainty(36:00) Neuroscience applied to day-to-day(37:33) Why traditional change frameworks still apply(41:32) Closing thoughts —Links Connect with the hosts and guests on LinkedIn!Kevin EricksonJake CarterRyan MedellinCale MaxwellLearn more about Credera





