Take It or Leave It

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Take It or Leave It is the only law firm podcast focused exclusively on workplace leaves, absence management, and accommodations. Hosts Meg Toth and Josh Seidman, Employment attorneys and co-leaders of Seyfarth’s Leaves of Absence Management and Accommodations team, explore the latest legal developments, forecast new laws, identify workplace trends, and offer practical, business-oriented considerations within the leave, absence management, and accommodations space.

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June 8, 202631 min

Episode 47: 2026 Paid Leave Legislative Trends and What They Mean for Employers

In Part Two of this two-part series, Josh Seidman and Dillon Clair shift their focus beyond Virginia to examine the broader national landscape of paid leave and leave of absence legislation in 2026. The discussion highlights activity and developments in states like Hawaii, Illinois, and Pennsylvania, where momentum continues to build through evolving proposals, amendments, and ongoing legislative debate. The episode also explores emerging trends shaping the future of paid leave, including expanding definitions of covered family members, growing political influence on policy outcomes, and a marked increase in legislative activity nationwide. Josh and Dillon close with insights on federal efforts to harmonize the state patchwork of paid leave, offering practical perspective for employers navigating an increasingly complex compliance environment. Read the full transcript: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/Take-It-or-Leave-It-Episode-47-D-Clair-Part-Two.pdf

May 29, 202623 min

Episode 46: Vetoed No More – Virginia’s New Paid Leave Landscape

In the first episode of 2026, Take It Or Leave It host Josh Seidman is joined by Dillon Clair of the ERISA Industry Committee (ERIC) to unpack the latest developments shaping the paid leave landscape. Together, they explore how Virginia emerged as a focal point this year, enacting both paid family medical leave and paid sick and safe leave laws after years of legislative momentum and prior vetoes. The conversation dives into key provisions of Virginia’s new laws, including timelines, employer compliance considerations, and evolving definitions of “family member”—a critical issue for multi-state employers. Josh and Dillon also preview other states to watch in 2026, offering practical insights to help employers stay proactive amid an increasingly complex and rapidly shifting regulatory environment. Read the full transcript here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/Take-It-or-Leave-It-Episode-46.pdf

November 26, 202530 min

Episode 45: AI Meets Leave Management: An Innovative Approach to Leaves Administration

AI’s growth continues unabated, with AI agents embedding in workplaces and seeking to make life easier across industries. To explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping leaves of absence and disability administration, host Josh Seidman sits down with Angie Brown, Strategic Sales Director at Ushur. Together, they navigate the evolution of technology in this space and discuss how new solutions can become part of the administrative process for employers, carriers, and TPAs. Their conversation dives into Ushur’s two flagship tools, including agentic AI, and how certain organizations are leveraging these tools to navigate different aspects of leaves of absence – collecting sensitive personal data, communications with employees, medical certifications, return to work, etc. – within their workforce or for their customers. They also explore additional practical applications for this type of software, and take a look ahead to what’s on the horizon for AI-driven leave management. Read the full transcript of this episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/TIOLI_Episode45.pdf

July 29, 202533 min

Episode 44: AI and Absences: Ethics and Boundaries in Leaves and Accommodations

For this forward-looking episode, host Josh Seidman continues the conversation with Bryon Bass, CEO of the Disability Management Employer Coalition (DMEC), focusing on the ethical and regulatory dimensions of AI in the world of leave management and workplace accommodations. Together, they explore the importance of establishing guardrails to ensure AI technologies are used responsibly, transparently, and with employee well-being at the forefront. Josh and Bryon also discuss the potential risks of unchecked automation, key considerations for employers partnering with third-party vendors, and emerging guidance from federal, state, and localgovernment agencies. The episode offers an inside look at the DMEC’s AI Think Tank, its recent findings, and why continued vigilance and collaboration across the industry are essential as AI adoption accelerates. Read the full transcript of the episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/TIOLI_Episode44.pdf

July 23, 202521 min

Episode 43: AI and Absences: The Future of Leave Management

In this episode of Take It or Leave It, host Josh Seidman kicks off a two-part series exploring the intersection of artificial intelligence and management of leaves of absence and accommodations. He’s joined by Bryon Bass, CEO of the Disability Management Employer Coalition (DMEC), for a timely and thought-provoking conversation about how AI is already reshaping – and will continue to reshape – the landscape of workplace leaves and accommodations. During this initial discussion, Josh and Bryon unpack the fundamentals – defining what AI really is (and isn’t) in this context and key differences between two interrelated but distinct topics, AI and automation. They then explore how professionals in the field are currently leveraging AI, what challenges remain, and where the technology might take us next. Whether you're an HR professional, leave administrator, or simply curious about how AI is changing the workplace, this episode offers valuable insights and a preview of what’s on the horizon. Read the full transcript of this episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/TIOLI_Episode43.pdf

July 7, 202526 min

Episode 42: Enhancing Leave and Accommodation Policies for the Realities of Today’s Workforce

In this episode of Take It or Leave It, host Josh Seidman sits down again with Jim Jantz from Marsh McLennan Agency to explore how lawmakers and employers are expanding their leave requirements and offerings to go beyond the status-quo to provide more benefits that meet the needs of today’s workforce. From state and local statutory developments like paid leave laws that cover pregnancy loss, or educational-related absences, to new federal laws like the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act, Josh and Jim break down how evolving regulations are responding to the changing demands of the workforce. The conversation also highlights how related considerations are fueling momentum around special use leaves – including bereavement, prenatal care, and school-related absences - and what this means for employers and employees alike. Beyond the regulatory developments, Josh and Jim also look at how employers are proactively adjusting their own benefit offerings to better support the holistic needs of their employees – through caregiver leave, flexible schedules, floating holidays, and more. They share practical guidance for employers assessing their current leave and accommodation policies through a lens of increasing inclusivity, including where to start and how to identify meaningful gaps. Read the full transcript of this episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/TIOLI_Episode42.pdf

June 12, 202543 min

Episode 41: FMLA, ADA, and PWFA - A Manager’s Guide to Compliance and Communication

In this episode of Take It or Leave It, host Josh Seidman sits down with Jim Jantz, a leave and disability compliance expert from Marsh McLennan Agency, to explore the critical role managers play in navigating employee leaves and accommodations. From recognizing the signs of a potential FMLA request to understanding when and how to escalate to HR or Legal, Josh and Jim discuss why proper manager training is essential to legal compliance, day-to-day administration, and employee well-being. They also dig into some of the more complex challenges managers face, like handling intermittent FMLA leave, managing the interactive process under the ADA and PWFA, and knowing when leave might be a reasonable accommodation. With practical tips, common pitfalls, and real-world examples, this conversation is packed with guidance to help frontline managers support their teams without putting their organizations at risk. Read the full transcript of this episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/TIOLI_Episode41.pdf

April 30, 202538 min

Episode 40: Benefits Breakdown: What SHRM’s 2024 Survey Says About Leave, PTO, and Flexible Work

In this milestone 40th episode of Take It or Leave It, host Josh Seidman dives into the 2024 SHRM Employee Benefits Survey with special guest Daniel Stunes, researcher and manager of data monetization for SHRM. Together, they unpack key data and trends from SHRM’s comprehensive annual report, which spans everything from paid parental leave and PTO to flexible work policies and emerging benefit categories. From unexpected shifts in unlimited PTO adoption to evolving support for caregiving and loss-related leave, Josh and Daniel explore how employers are reshaping their benefits offerings in response to workforce demands. They also spotlight surprising year-over-year changes and reveal which industries are leading the charge on flexibility and innovation. It’s a data-driven conversation with big implications for HR and Leave Law strategy in 2025 and beyond. Read the full transcript of this episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/TIOLI_Episode_40.pdf

March 5, 202530 min

Episode 39: A Deep Dive into Connecticut Paid Family Medical Leave and Future Trends

In this second episode of our Take It or Leave It two parter, host Josh Seidman explores how Connecticut Paid Leave, the state’s paid family medical leave (“PFML”) mandate, handles complicated standards like coordination of state-mandated PFML with employer-provided paid leave policies, and navigating the ins and outs of private plan compliance. Special guest Erin Choquette, CEO of the Connecticut Paid Leave Authority, returns to tackle these and other pressing paid leave topics including: • Connecticut Paid Leave benefit coordination, including key considerations around accruals, employer-provided benefits, and primary versus secondary payers, plus insights on how employers can navigate overlapping leave programs effectively, • The private plan option under Connecticut’s PFML program - employer adoption rates, approval criteria, and the unique employee vote requirement, • Connecticut’s audit process for private plans, with some lessons learned from working with counterparts in other state PFML programs, and the broader patchwork of paid leave laws across the country, and • The prospects for a federal paid leave program and how its implementation could reshape the landscape for employers and employees alike.

February 19, 202529 min

Episode 38: From Launch to Growth: Exploring Connecticut Paid Family Medical Leave

In this first episode of a Take It or Leave It two-parter, host Josh Seidman takes a deep dive into Connecticut Paid Leave, the state’s mandatory paid family medical leave (“PFML”) program. As more states prepare to launch their own mandatory PFML programs in 2026—including Delaware, Maryland, Maine, and Minnesota—it’s critical to examine how existing programs are evolving. Sitting down with Josh is Erin Choquette, CEO of the Connecticut Paid Leave Authority, to discuss the Authority’s role in administering Connecticut Paid Leave, how PFML has developed in Connecticut, key eligibility requirements and other metrics, and the variety resources available to employers and employees navigating paid leave compliance and entitlements. Josh and Erin explore how Connecticut Paid Leave has evolved since its enactment in 2019, including insights from the program’s 2024 annual report and claim processing. Erin also shares valuable lessons for states preparing to implement their own PFML mandates, offering guidance on building resources and ensuring transparency for businesses and workers alike. Join Josh and Erin for the first part of their informative discussion on Connecticut PFML.