Rock N Roll Story Guys

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Rock N Roll Story Guys features two best friends discussing (and maybe setting straight) the rumor, innuendo and hidden details that surround some of the biggest bands and songs in rock n roll history.

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January 8, 202534 min

Berlin vs Take My Breath Away

Brian and Murdock make a case for Terri Nunn – lead singer of Berlin – as forgotten feminist icon while examining the story behind the movie soundtrack single that made the band huge – and broke the band up.   SHOW NOTES: https://vinyldistractions.com/berlin-pleasure-victim/ https://www.thatericalper.com/2019/01/05/terri-nunn-who-would-later-become-lead-singer-of-new-wave-group-berlin-auditioning-for-princess-leia-in-star-wars-with-harrison-ford-in-1976/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KROQ_Weenie_Roast https://www.tampabay.com/terri-nunns-journey-to-berlin-almost-got-sidetracked-in-dallas/2322182/ Child actor system dissertation: https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2453&context=utk_chanhonoproj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Heartbeat Hollywood Heartbeat 1979 performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPhaCUZj-0 https://www.lostturntable.com/2016/03/21/10-years-of-being-lost-berlins-information/ Virginia and the Slims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDBaUgA0NzA Beast of Beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC4M5e6xAzs https://themusepatrol.com/2014/02/09/80s-bands-time-forgot-spotlight-beast-of-beast/ Berlin at US Festival 1983: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo-q-4kW7E Motels demo of Take My Breath Away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8qRTSkbgg https://www.yahoo.com/now/berlins-terri-nunn-on-how-she-got-her-ex-to-play-an-ahole-on-new-song-202751710.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Words https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Moroder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Whitlock Berlin’s cover of Marilyn Manson’s Dope Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mesTjE4fKA

October 9, 2024

The Zappas vs each other

Brian and Murdock get into the family drama that has surrounded the Godfather of Freak Folk’s wife and kids throughout the last decade and spell out which Zappas married famous, recorded novelty songs (3 of the 5!), and finally made it to the bank. Support the show on Patreon See the show on YouTube Visit the show on Instagram Visit the show on Facebook SHOW NOTES: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Zappa https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/was-gail-zappa-a-good-custodian-of-the-zappa-legacy.962928/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/interactive/2024/frank-zappa-family-feud-moon-unit-dweezil/ https://www.billboard.com/pro/bennett-glotzer-music-manager-frank-zappa-janis-joplin-dies/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa https://afka.net/Articles/1981-09_Music_Connection.htm https://rhoerer.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/bunny-and-bear/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UucabESONvY&t=5 https://www.afka.net/Articles/1996-06_Performing_Songwriter.htm Billboard interview 1990: https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Just_Plain_Folks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Girl_(song) https://www.thembj.org/2010/10/creativity-copyright-the-new-marketplace-an-interview-with-gail-zappa/ https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/moon-zappas-complicated-relationship-with-valley-girl-40-years-later-i-just-was-trying-to-make-my-dad-laugh-203637351.html https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/01/14/Rock-singer-Frank-Zappa-wants-a-judge-to-stop/6852411368400/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweezil_Zappa https://bo.knittingfactory.com/tm-attraction/dweezil-zappa/ https://www.spin.com/2024/08/moon-unit-zappa-memoir-interview/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emreturn-of-the-son-ofem_b_644624 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Zappa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diva_Zappa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHvR4hgxQE https://deecrowseer.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/relative-values-moon-unit-and-diva-zappa/ https://www.zappanews.co.uk/interviews/dweezil-zappa https://www.westernsouthern.com/retirement/family-trust https://www.kcopplelaw.com/frank-zappa-and-estate-trustees/ https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/article/frank-zappa-trust-cuts-heirs-out-40m-family-name https://www.tiaa.org/public/learn/retirement-planning-and-beyond/what-is-a-trust https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/inside-the-zappa-family-feud-104088/ Z (Dweezil and Ahmet’s band) 1993 festival performance – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQIrBSbNEgs https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/lady-gaga-snaps-up-music-legend-frank-zappa-s-estate-40753 https://observer.com/2021/11/lady-gaga-sells-frank-zappa-hollywood-hills-home-lizzy-jagger/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

June 12, 2024

Dio vs Elf

A listener letter leads the guys to nerd out on the unlikely career and success of Ronnie James Dio and that band he led before another rock legend came calling. Support the show on Patreon See the show on YouTube Visit the show on Instagram Visit the show on Facebook SHOW NOTES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_James_Dio Ronnie Dio and the Prophets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHgcFXcY_yo First Time Reaction to Rainbow’s “Stargazer” #1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiD9dzIa4J #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVP25CPi934 Remembering when Black Sabbath spent more on cocaine while making ‘Vol. 4’ than on the album itself https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/black-sabbath-cocaine-vol-4/ Sabbath live 1980 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wexC2FMVsR4 Hear N Aid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_%27n_Aid Elf, Sit Down Honey, Everything will be alright https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqLJP5-5y0s Dio on South Park https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/s24ibx/south-park-dio “Ronnie James Dio: Unlocking His Secrets” https://tprs.com/interviews/ronnie-james-dio-unlocking-his-secrets/ Find a Grave.com-Nick Pantas https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52407857/nicholas-zaharis-pantas Doug Thayer interview https://www.classicbands.com/DougThalerInterview.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 29, 2024

Third Eye Blind vs Stephan Jenkins

The guys dive into one of the stories that first inspired the whole idea for the show – the cutthroat business practices of Mr. Stephan Jenkins, the founder and singer of a band called Third Eye Blind. Support the show on Patreon See the show on YouTube Visit the show on Instagram Visit the show on Facebook SHOW NOTES Suzaie by Splash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TtjwrrRfY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Jenkins https://laughingsquid.com/mtv-basement-tapes-frank-zappa https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Blind-Ambition-Third-Eye-Blind-leader-Stephan-2893749.php https://riffmagazine.com/features/third-eye-blind-trademark/#google_vignette https://floodmagazine.com/39035/how-its-going-to-be-why-two-former-members-of-third-eye-blind-cant-call-themselves-former-members-of-third-eye-blind/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Charmed_Life https://www.bmi.com/news/entry/Real-World_Success_Story_Stephan_Jenkins_and_Third_Eye_Blind https://www.ebar.com/story.php?ch=bartab&sc=live_music&id=289014 https://trialinsider.com/2013/10/16/third-eye-blind-rat-in-the-books/ https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/third-eye-blind-frontman-and-drummer-save-children-from-drowning-a7077811.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Cadogan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Satriani https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/ex-third-eye-blind-guitarists-suit-heads-to-trial-75440/ https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/third-eye-blind-self-titled-debut-album-oral-history-7751391/ https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/guitarist-sues-his-former-band-members-third-2699021.php Blue discussion between Stephan and Jason Carmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdjiP6-s5Uw https://jivewrites.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/third-eye-blinds-blue-is-the-most-interesting-sophomore-album-of-the-last-25-years/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 1, 2024

Sam Cooke vs the FBI

Brian and Murdock break down the three theories that have haunted many since the death of Sam Cooke back in December of 1964. Was it really just bad behavior gone worse? Or was Sam set up? Support the show on Patreon See the show on YouTube Visit the show on Instagram Visit the show on Facebook SHOW NOTES: Dream Boogie Peter Guralnick book: https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Boogie-Triumph-Sam-Cooke/dp/0316013293 UPI Report: https://www.newspapers.com/image/393958105/?fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjM5Mzk1ODEwNSwiaWF0IjoxNzEzODI4MjUzLCJleHAiOjE3MTM5MTQ2NTN9.WCnGsjb-fSQIY1jd-HtoRPqa8G1HOTKn2Bl3b_Dld8w https://people.com/movies/why-mystery-still-shrouds-singer-sam-cookes-shooting-death-nearly-60-years-later/ https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/ https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/conspiracy-theory-death-of-sam-cooke/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Schmitt https://nilssonschmilsson.com/martonis-210629103925.html https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles/photos/a.578880922168631/2653685958021440/?type=3 https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/02/remastered-sam-cooke-murder Remastered: The Two Killings of Sam Cooke Netflix doc: https://www.netflix.com/title/80191045 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Klein FBI watching Ali info: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14511P/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-history-behind-one-night-miami-180976768/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._W._Alexander_(musician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Womack The Soul Stirrer by Barney Hoskins: https://teachrock.org/article/the-soul-stirrer-sam-cooke/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

April 24, 2024

The Wrecking Crew vs music history

A listener letter sends the guys on the first of what could be many explorations into the backstories of some of the session musicians who made up the collective who would come to be known as “The Wrecking Crew.” Hear the story of the drummer who happened to be next door just in time to step into a powerful and historic musical moment. Support the show on Patreon See the show on YouTube Visit the show on Instagram Visit the show on Facebook SHOW NOTES: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Palmer “I Hate My Generation” music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsNsOhyG8I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosimo_Matassa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_Records Backbeat, the book: https://www.louisianamusicfactory.com/product/tony-scherman-backbeat-earl-palmers-story-book/ Modern Drummer feature: https://www.moderndrummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/md352cs.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelly_Manne https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rock-hall-of-fame-drummer-earl-palmer-dead-at-84-254915/ https://www.adioslounge.com/sideman-spotlight-earl-palmer/ https://scottkfish.com/2016/01/23/earl-palmer-i-wasnt-quite-sure-what-i-wanted-to-do-with-my-life/ https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unlikely-story-of-a-change-is-gonna-come https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=100689&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=954#bottom https://www.nytimes.com/1958/06/13/archives/musicians-strike-spreads-on-coast-independents-hit-by-afm-film.html Avelo’s “The Strike that Changed Disney Music”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBsGwNJ54-M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boudreaux https://www.npr.org/2014/02/01/268995033/sam-cooke-and-the-song-that-almost-scared-him https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/ https://pan-african-music.com/en/a-change-is-gonna-come-a-hymn-for-civil-rights/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFO_Records https://www.facebook.com/WreckingCrewFilm/posts/on-this-date-june-3-1967-the-instrumental-tracks-for-never-my-love-by-the-associ/10157450423118023/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

April 17, 2024

K-tel vs the music business

A photo of a whole lot of famous rockers in one place gets the guys researching a record label that redefined the way music was listened to and sold in 1970’s America. Support the show on Patreon See the show on YouTube Visit the show on Instagram Visit the show on Facebook SHOW NOTES: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-tel The photo: https://qr.ae/psvMqm https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-dire-straits-thin-lizzy-eric-clapton-led-zeppelin-bad-company-and-109755815.html https://www.discogs.com/release/12787001-Various-The-Summit https://www.loudersound.com/news/led-zeppelin-once-released-a-song-on-k-tel-the-result-was-one-of-the-great-all-star-photos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Year_of_the_Child https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_the_Child https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerts_for_the_People_of_Kampuchea https://americansongwriter.com/remember-when-the-concerts-for-the-people-of-kampuchea/ https://hercsktelalbums.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-summit-uk-january-1980.html https://mymusicthroughtheyears.wordpress.com/2022/01/08/the-rise-and-fall-of-k-tel-records/ https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/k-tel-as-seen-on-tv-compilation-album-history 1997 Billboard ads celebrating KTEL: https://books.google.com/books?id=qQ4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA47-IA3&lpg=PA47-IA3&dq=K-Tel&source=bl&ots=C4AWmvPyX7&sig=ACfU3U2g9VCfSsuB5DT3Z-h2QJLfq56mZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd_-eXsav5AhUTg4kEHXgrDpg4WhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=K-Tel&f=false https://www.tampabay.com/incoming/k-tels-shouting-infomercial-legend-dies-at-87/2275511/ Fun stuff about the history of Teflon: https://misen.com/blogs/news/polytetrafluoroethylene https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/202104/history.cfm https://playback.fm/charts/top-100-songs/1938 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Gr%C3%A9goire https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/philip-kives-founder-of-k-tel-and-pioneering-pitchman-went-from-coveralls-to-riches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

October 30, 201910 min