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Scaling Therapist Podcast: More Income, More Independence, More Impact (Not More Hours)

Scaling Therapist Podcast: More Income, More Independence, More Impact (Not More Hours)

Hosted by James Marland

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188

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Nov 2026

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EN

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The Scaling Therapist Podcast exists to inspire therapists to scale their business with systems, people, community, or opportunity so they can have more income, impact, and independance without giving up more of their life.

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November 13, 202614 min

3 Hard Lessons Learned From the Death of My Business | STP 188

Final Reflections: What I’d Do Differently and What Comes Next Episode Summary Nobody really wants a bridge. They want what’s on the other side. In this final episode of the Scaling Therapist Podcast, I’m sharing an honest look at closing Course Creation Studio and the lessons I’m taking with me. I started with a solution: helping therapists create courses. But I didn’t spend enough time understanding what they actually wanted. That mistake shaped my offers, my messaging, and how I spent my time and money. I also talk about the hard financial lessons: expensive coaching that didn’t produce the return I expected, debt, and letting go of paying work before new income could replace it. There were good things here, too. Meaningful relationships. Lessons I couldn’t have learned by keeping my ideas in a drawer. And a belief I still hold: therapists have wisdom worth sharing beyond one-on-one sessions. I’ll close with what may come next for me, including training with The Marriage Hub and the opportunity to help couples rebuild their marriages. Why starting with a product instead of a customer’s problem created the wrong foundation. What a small email list and changing offers taught me about clear messaging. My experience spending $25,000 on coaching, plus additional event and travel costs. Why I wish I’d kept reliable client income while testing a new business model. Three things I’d do differently: build relationships in person, focus on the problem, and launch smaller experiments. How my own marriage recovery connects with the work I’m pursuing next. A course, workshop, or coaching program is a bridge. Before building it, understand where people are hurting and where they want to go. I let paying client work fall away before my new offers could replace that income. Believing in an idea doesn’t make it ready to support you. I spent six to eight months building a course before finding out whether people would buy it. Next time, I’d test something smaller, get feedback, and adjust before investing that much time. 00:00 A final goodbye and an honest look back 00:32 Starting with the wrong focus 02:15 The bridge versus the oasis 03:00 Email list growth and unclear offers 04:45 Expensive coaching, debt, and unmet expectations 07:04 Letting go of paying clients too soon 08:50 What I’d do differently: relationships and in-person events 09:30 Build your brand around the problem you solve 10:10 Embrace failure and launch smaller experiments 11:15 What’s next: marriage support coaching 12:40 A final encouragement to put your mission in motion The Mom Test Tad Hargrave’s approach to hub marketing Re|engage marriage ministry The Marriage Hub , where I was preparing for training at the time of recording I still believe your knowledge doesn’t have to stay locked behind the clock, the calendar, or the couch. Thank you for being part of this journey. If you’d like to stay connected, look me up on LinkedIn and send me a message. Please continue to put your mission in motion. People need you. People need the wisdom you have.

November 11, 2026Episode 18726 min

Build Income Beyond a Full Calendar with Jason VanRuler | STP 187

A full calendar can look like success. But what does your life look like when the workday ends? In this episode, I sit down with therapist, author, and speaker Jason VanRuler to talk about building income beyond one-on-one sessions. Jason walks us through four circles of impact, from individual work to groups, courses, books, and opportunities that can leave a lasting legacy. We also talk about money beliefs, the fear of putting yourself out there, and why your next idea probably doesn’t need a $5,000 investment or six months of planning. 00:00 Meet Jason VanRuler and his private practice background 01:00 Why therapists consider additional revenue streams 02:00 Burnout, financial dependence, and longevity in the field 03:00 When the road to success also leads toward burnout 04:00 Defining success beyond a packed schedule 05:00 Choosing growth that fits your season and desired impact 06:00 Examining the money beliefs therapists carry 07:00 A better question: Am I running a good business? 08:00 Recognizing the money rules running in the background 09:00 Making sure your beliefs about money are actually yours 10:00 The four circles of impact: starting with your core work 11:00 Extending your impact through groups, teams, and consulting 12:00 Why groups offer more than a larger audience 13:00 Turning group teaching into content you can use elsewhere 14:00 Broadening your reach through courses, speaking, and writing 15:00 Working through doubt and reaching people you’ve never met 16:00 The outer circle: legacy, service, and lasting assets 17:00 How the four circles can work together 18:00 Choosing where to start instead of jumping to the biggest investment 19:00 Mastering your core work before adding something new 20:00 Testing your next offer for $200 or less 21:00 Letting real demand guide your investment 22:00 Testing this week instead of waiting for perfect confidence 23:00 Choosing between the fear of trying and the regret of not trying 24:00 Taking a small risk and connecting with Jason 25:00 Jason’s book and putting your mission in motion Jason shares a way to think about growth without trying to do everything at once: Core work: One-on-one therapy, coaching, and intensives that need your direct attention. Extended impact: Groups, retreats, employees, and consulting that reach beyond individual sessions. Broader reach: Courses, books, speaking, and social media that carry your message to people you haven’t met. Legacy and overflow: Ministries, nonprofits, real estate, or systems that can serve people beyond your direct involvement. These aren’t four assignments to add to your calendar. They’re possibilities to consider as your skills, interests, and season of life change. Test a small offer before you make a big investment. Jason’s advice is practical: get good at your core work, notice a need, and find a simple way to test your next idea. That might mean a group, a landing page, and an invitation. It doesn’t have to mean an expensive platform or months spent building something nobody has asked for. We also talk about the difference between people liking an idea and people paying for it. Encouragement feels good. A paid signup gives you different information. Start small enough that you can learn without needing the first attempt to work perfectly. Write down one topic you keep helping people work through. Could that topic become a focused group or workshop? Outline who it would help, what they would learn, and one low-cost way to test interest. You don’t need the whole business mapped out. You need a clear next step. Visit Jason VanRuler’s website to explore his work, books, and speaking. Book mentioned: Discovering Your Communication Type Social media: Find Jason VanRuler, especially on Instagram. Helping you put your mission in motion. Timestamped HighlightsThe Four Circles of ImpactMy TakeawayOne Step to Take This WeekConnect with Jason

November 9, 2026Episode 18617 min

Income Beyond the Therapy Room with Jenny Melrose | STP 186

What do you find yourself explaining over and over in the therapy room? That skill, strategy, or conversation could be the starting point for a digital product. In this episode, I sit down with business coach Jenny Melrose to talk about turning what you already teach into resources that can help more people without adding more sessions to your calendar. Jenny shares her journey from classroom teacher to food blogger to business coach. We explore what digital products can look like for therapists, from a parent workshop to exercises that help people practice skills between sessions. We also talk about the fear of selling. If you’ve ever thought, “I want to help people, but I don’t want to sound pushy,” this conversation is for you. You don’t have to build a giant course or become an influencer. Your first step might be noticing the question you answered three times this week. A Personal Update Before the interview, I share that Course Creation Studio and The Scaling Therapist Podcast are being archived as I pursue work outside entrepreneurship. I still believe your ability to help people doesn’t have to stay locked behind the clock, the calendar, or the couch. Thank you for being part of this journey. Timestamped Highlights 00:00 A personal update about the podcast and Course Creation Studio 01:00 Jenny’s journey from teaching to blogging and business coaching 02:00 Turning the education you repeat into a digital product 03:00 How digital products can support learning outside the therapy room 04:00 Can a digital product replace therapy? 05:00 Product ideas for play therapists and the parents they support 06:00 A parent’s perspective on ADHD, routines, and practical resources 07:00 Creating resources for first responders, partners, and support systems 08:00 Creative product ideas and the question of time and cost 09:00 Upfront work, repeat sales, and the potential to reduce session dependence 10:00 Carrying buckets versus building a system that carries the water 11:00 Reframing selling as an invitation to solve a problem 12:00 How fear and past experiences shape the way we sell 13:00 Reaching more people and getting comfortable hearing no 14:00 Why you don’t need a huge social media audience 15:00 Your first step: notice what you repeat and who you enjoy helping 16:00 Recognizing the value of what you already know 17:00 Connecting with Jenny and putting your mission in motion My Takeaway Start with what you already teach, not a blank course outline. Jenny’s advice is simple: pay attention to what you repeat and what gives you energy. Maybe you’re helping parents build routines. Maybe you’re teaching partners how to support a first responder. There may be a useful resource hiding inside a conversation you’ve had dozens of times. In the episode, I compare one-on-one work to carrying buckets of water. Every trip helps someone, but you have to keep making the trip. A digital product takes work to build, but it can give that same information a way to travel without you delivering it live every time. That doesn’t make it automatic income. You still need something useful and a way to reach the people who need it. But another appointment doesn’t have to be your only path to earning more. One Step to Take This Week Write down the topics you keep explaining. Leave out client names and identifying details. Then ask: Which of these could become one useful workshop, guide, or set of exercises? Keep it small. Help someone take one clear step. Connect with Jenny Visit Jenny Melrose’s website to explore her resources and coaching. Helping you put your mission in motion.

November 2, 2026Episode 18536 min

From Doing Everything to Leading the Business with Amanda Landry | STP 185

You can build a growing practice and still become the person holding it back. In this episode, I sit down with Amanda Landry, co-owner of Caring Therapists, to talk about her journey from agency burnout to leading a multi-location group practice in Florida. Amanda didn’t start with a plan for a large business. She wanted to leave a job that had her crying outside a locked door. She started seeing private practice clients on nights and weekends, brought trusted colleagues alongside her, and grew from there. We talk about what she got right, the practice names she wishes she could take back, and why growth eventually required her to stop doing everything herself. One of my favorite parts of this conversation is Amanda’s story about becoming a mom. Having her son changed what she could carry. Building a team wasn’t just about growing the business anymore. It helped her be present at home without becoming the roadblock at work. If your practice depends on you wearing every hat, there’s a lot here worth hearing. Before the interview, I share that I’m closing Course Creation Studio and will be archiving The Scaling Therapist Podcast. I’m planning a final episode to talk about the journey, the lessons, and some things I would do differently. Thank you for being part of it. 00:00 A personal update: closing Course Creation Studio and archiving the podcast 01:00 Staying connected and introducing Amanda Landry 03:00 Leaving agency work and carrying the lessons forward 05:00 The moment Amanda knew something needed to change 07:00 How agency experience can prepare clinicians for private practice 09:00 Starting on nights and weekends instead of jumping in all at once 10:00 Building a practice with trusted friends and colleagues 11:00 Practice naming mistakes that are hard to undo 17:00 Opening a second location after the commute became too much 20:00 Wearing every hat, then learning to hand them off 23:00 Planning for growth before signing a bigger lease 26:00 Using EOS, scorecards, and a leadership team 28:00 Building consistent systems without treating every client the same 30:00 How motherhood changed Amanda’s priorities and leadership 34:00 Building a village at work instead of becoming the roadblock 35:00 Where to connect with Amanda Your next stage of growth may require you to do less, not carry more. Amanda didn’t hand things off because she stopped caring. She built support so the business could keep serving people without every decision, clinical note, and payroll run coming back to her. That’s a useful question for any practice owner: What still depends on you that someone else could own? Email: amanda@caringtherapists.com Facebook group: My Private Practice Collective Live Q&A: Live with Amanda, twice a week Connect with James on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesdmarland/ Traction by Gino Wickman, a book about the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS). A Personal UpdateTimestamped HighlightsMy TakeawayConnect with AmandaResource Mentioned

October 26, 2026Episode 18423 min

Stop Being the Bottleneck: Getting Projects Done

Stop Being the Bottleneck: Getting Projects Done with Brook Borup You hired help to take work off your plate. So why is everyone still waiting on you? Your web designer needs copy. Your video editor needs recordings. Your social media manager needs direction. Now you have a second job: managing everyone you hired. In this episode, James Marland talks with returning guest Brook Borup of My Clone Solution about getting projects finished without becoming the person holding everything together. Whether you’re building an online course, creating a handout, or launching a new website, Brook explains how clear checklists, steady communication, and small weekly steps help move the work forward. As Brook puts it, “Duct tape is not a business strategy.” Know what you’re building. Understand the difference between a project and the ongoing work needed after launch. Plan beyond the content. A course needs more than videos. Think through registration, delivery, follow-up, and the learner’s experience. Avoid the hiring trap. Hiring several specialists can create more work when nobody coordinates their efforts. Give AI something worth working with. Use your own knowledge, examples, and voice to help it produce useful drafts. Keep moving in small steps. Weekly tasks and accountability help keep your project from becoming another “someday” idea. Consider the cost of doing everything yourself. Look at the time you’re spending and what that time could make possible elsewhere. Brook helps business owners organize projects, connect their systems, and coordinate the people doing the work. Through My Clone Solution, she supports projects including websites, courses, lead magnets, podcasts, and business operations. Website: My Clone Solution Free guide: Beware of the Easy Button , seven red flags to watch for when “done-for-you” leaves you doing the work. Free 22-minute “Ask Anything” call: Visit My Clone Solution and select “Book a FREE 22-Minute Call.” If you’re tired of carrying every detail, Brook’s free call is one place to talk through what’s stuck and where help could make a difference. Episode Highlights 00:00 | Is your practice waiting on you? James introduces Brook and the value of getting help with business bottlenecks. 02:00 | Projects versus ongoing tasks. Building a course and maintaining it require different kinds of support. 03:00 | A handout needs more than good design. Plan the content, next step, and follow-up behind your lead magnet. 06:00 | Do it yourself or bring in help? Explore options for managing your project with support. 10:00 | The hiring mistake that creates more work. When your specialists don’t communicate, you become everyone’s point of contact. 13:00 | Help AI sound like you. Give it your own knowledge, examples, and voice to create more useful drafts. 16:00 | Keep projects moving with weekly tasks. Clear communication and accountability help you make steady progress. 18:00 | Small steps and the value of support. Brook explains why expertise, accountability, and follow-through matter. 20:00 | Connect with Brook. Learn about My Clone Solution and her free 22-minute “Ask Anything” call. 22:00 | What is doing it yourself costing you? Consider how getting help now could free your time later.

October 5, 202629 min

The Foundations of Ethical Marketing for Therapists, Part 2: Build an Offer, Find Your People, and Share Your Work | STP 183

The Foundations of Ethical Marketing for Therapists, Part 2: Build an Offer, Find Your People, and Share Your Work | STP 183 You want people to find your work. But you do not want to push them into buying. I get it. In Part 2, Tad Hargrave and I talk about how to explain what you do, build an offer people need, and meet people through groups they already trust. We also talk about sharing your work in a way that feels like you. Missed Part 1? Listen to STP 182 . We cover trust, making time for marketing, and getting clear about who you help. Three Reasons to Listen Learn how to explain your approach so people can decide if you are a good fit. Find people who already know and serve the clients you want to help. Choose a way to market that you enjoy and can keep doing. Episode Highlights 00:00 Explain how you help before asking people to buy. 03:00 Why a clear approach makes it easier to share your offer. 04:00 Help people see a way forward when they feel stuck. 06:00 Choose how you will help, through sessions, workshops, groups, or other offers. 07:00 Build your offer around who you help and what they need. 08:00 Why an offer that tries to serve everyone can be hard to sell. 10:00 Find your “hubs,” the people and places where your future clients gather. 12:00 How someone people trust can introduce your work. 13:00 What you can offer a group, even when you are just starting. 15:00 Make a partnership helpful for you, the host, and their people. 16:00 How this changed the way I reach out to people. 17:00 Share what you offer and let people decide. 18:00 Pick a way to market that you can keep doing. 19:00 Why more ads or posts will not fix an unclear message. 22:00 Make room for people to say yes or no. 23:00 How trying too hard to help can get in the way. 24:00 Where to find Tad’s starter kit and hear about his open office hours. 25:00 Why good marketing helps people find the help they need. Links From the Show Marketing for Hippies , Tad’s website, newsletter, and Ethical Marketing Starter Kit Part 1 blog: The Foundations of Ethical Marketing for Therapists One step this week: Think of one person or group your future clients already trust. What could you share that would help their people?

September 22, 202624 min

The Foundations of Ethical Marketing for Therapists, Part 1 | STP 182

The Foundations of Ethical Marketing for Therapists, Part 1: Ethics, Space, and Finding Your Niche Marketing can feel like the icky side of running a therapy practice. Hype. Pressure. Self-promotion. Trying to convince someone to work with you. But what if good marketing did the opposite? In this episode, I talk with Tad Hargrave, founder of Marketing for Hippies, about a different foundation for marketing. Instead of trying to get the sale, Tad believes marketing should help you and the other person discover the truth: Are we actually a good fit? In Part 1 of our conversation, we work through the first three foundations of Tad’s ethical marketing approach: ethics, space, and niche. Three Things You’ll Discover Why ethics comes before marketing tactics. Tad explains how trust, reputation, and word of mouth grow when helping the right person matters more than getting the sale. Why you may not have a marketing problem. You may have a space problem. If your calendar, inbox, and commitments are already full, another marketing strategy will not help much. You need room to actually do the work. Why finding your niche is about fit, not excluding people. Tad shares two questions that can help you get clearer about who you want to serve and why your own story may point toward the people you are best equipped to help. Highlights 00:00 – Ethical marketing starts with a different question: Is this actually a good fit? 01:15 – Why marketing feels so icky to therapists and helpers 02:20 – Why self-promotion feels uncomfortable for most of us 05:00 – Tad’s alternative to self-promotion: make it easier for other people to spread the word about your work 07:00 – Why hype, pressure, and urgency often show up when the marketing foundations are missing 08:30 – Foundation #1: Ethics and why it belongs at the bottom of the pyramid 11:00 – The honest mechanic story and why trust creates word of mouth 13:30 – Foundation #2: Space. You cannot implement good ideas when your life is already full 16:00 – Every yes also means saying no to something else 17:20 – Foundation #3: Niche and accepting that you cannot be everything to everybody 18:45 – Two questions to ask when deciding who you really want to help 19:45 – Stop going for the sale and start looking for the truth about whether you are a fit 20:15 – Why Tad believes your deepest wound can sometimes point toward your truest niche Connect With Tad Hargrave and Marketing for Hippies Marketing for Hippies Website: marketingforhippies.com Instagram: @marketingforhippies YouTube: Marketing for Hippies YouTube Channel In Part 2, Tad and I continue through the foundations and talk about point of view, your business model, hubs, and how to share your work without hype or pressure.

September 14, 202622 min

The 4 Elements of a Great Virtual Assistant Job Description | STP 181

The 4 Elements of a Great Virtual Assistant Job Description You know you need help. The harder question is, what exactly should you hand off? In this episode, Alyssa Avant joins me to talk about how to get clear before you hire a virtual assistant. We walk through the four parts of a good VA job description: what you want done, what success looks like, what skills or tools they need, and how you will work together. If you have been putting off hiring help because you are not sure what to delegate, this episode gives you a place to start. The 4 Elements of a Great Virtual Assistant Job Description 1. Define What Success Looks Like Start with the outcome. What do you want to be different because you hired a VA? You do not have to map out every click and every step. In fact, your VA may have a better way to get there. What matters is making sure both of you know what a finished job should look like. 2. List the Tasks and Responsibilities Look at what is eating your time. What do you keep putting off? What do you dread doing? What takes you twice as long as it should? Alyssa puts it simply: just because you can do something does not mean you should keep doing it. Delegating the right work gives you more time for the things only you can do. 3. Name the Skills and Tools They Need Not every VA does the same kind of work. Some are generalists. Others focus on bookkeeping, websites, podcasts, social media, email marketing, or other specific work. If you use WordPress, ActiveCampaign, Kit, or another tool, put that in the job description. You do not want to hire someone and then find out they have never worked in the programs you depend on. 4. Decide How You Will Work Together Good delegation still needs good communication. Pick one main place where work and questions live. That might be email, Trello, Slack, or another system. Then decide how often you will check in. Alyssa recommends regular updates so you know what was finished, what is still waiting, and what your VA needs from you. Also decide whether you need help with one project or ongoing support. Timestamped Highlights 02:00 – You know you need help, but what should you actually delegate? 03:00 – A simple question to help you find tasks to hand off 03:45 – The 80/20 principle and where your time is really going 04:45 – Why a VA job description can save you frustration later 05:00 – What belongs in a virtual assistant job description 06:40 – General VA or specialist? How to know which one you need 08:00 – Why the outcome matters more than documenting every step 10:45 – Start with the work that takes too long or that you dread doing 11:45 – Communication preferences can make or break the relationship 13:00 – Why one main communication channel makes life easier 14:00 – The weekly update Alyssa’s team sends to clients 17:00 – One-time project or ongoing support? 18:20 – Alyssa’s free training on writing a VA job description Resources Mentioned Virtual Assistant Job Description Training from Alyssa Avant: https://alyssaavant.ac-page.com/job Alyssa Avant and Company: https://alyssaavantandcompany.com/ Christian Business Advantage Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-christian-business-advantage/id1525088804 STP 38: 5 Questions to Ask Yourself Before Hiring a Virtual Assistant, with Alyssa Avant: Listen to STP 38 on Apple Podcasts STP 109: How to Improve Your Virtual Assistant Results with Effective Communication: Listen to STP 109 on Apple Podcasts One More Thing You Do Not Have to Figure Out Alone Delegation is really about knowing when someone else can help carry the load. That includes HIPAA. If HIPAA compliance is one of those things sitting on your list because you are not sure what to do next, the HIPAA Compliance Workshop can help you work through it. HIPAA Compliance Workshop: https://www.coursecreationstudio.com/hipaatoolkitworkshop

September 7, 202634 min

How to Sell What You Know When AI Knows It Too | STP 180

How to Sell What You Know When AI Knows It Too AI can already answer a lot of the questions people used to pay for in online courses. So what does that mean if you are a therapist trying to sell a course or teach online? In this episode, I talk with Brent Stutzman, founder of TheraSaaS CRM, about the hard truth of building courses in the age of AI. We talk about why information alone is getting harder to sell, what people still need from you that AI cannot give them, and how tools, support, community, and real experience can help your students actually get the result they came for. 3 Things You Will Discover in This Episode Why AI does not have to be better than your course. It only has to be good enough to change what people are willing to pay for. How Brent and Dr. Deb Legge changed the Private Pay Practice Program from a $3,000 coaching offer to a $300 course with custom ChatGPT tools. Why your course may need to do more than give people information. It needs to help them do the work, get a result faster, or stop wondering if they are doing it right. Highlights 03:00 – Why AI is changing marketing, content creation, and the way therapists run their businesses. 04:15 – How practice owners are already using AI for hiring, interviews, operations, and decision-making. 06:30 – The hard question for course creators: Why should someone pay for information when AI can give them a good-enough answer in minutes? 07:20 – Why AI is making frameworks and information easier to copy, and what that means if you sell what you know. 08:20 – Why the future may belong to courses that help people do the work instead of just collecting more information. 09:00 – Brent explains the Alex Hormozi value equation and how to help people get what they want faster, with less work and less guessing. 11:30 – The Private Pay Practice Program case study and why Brent and Dr. Deb Legge changed the way they sell the program. 12:30 – How they built separate custom ChatGPT tools for brand messaging, websites, SEO, and referral letters. 14:00 – Using AI to help students get the work done faster instead of simply giving them more information. 15:45 – Why James and Brent both separate custom GPTs by task instead of trying to make one GPT do everything. 16:30 – Where community still matters and why learning alongside other people can help you stop wondering if you are doing it right. 19:30 – Why some students want community while others just want the answer as fast as possible. 20:30 – How Brent’s wife used Claude to help think through a new Director of Operations role. 23:15 – The Play Therapy Toolbox case study: 21 courses, more than 1,700 students, and over $35,000 in revenue across eight years. 24:30 – How AI may answer the question before people ever click on your website. 26:00 – Why watching someone actually do the work, hearing good questions, and seeing how they respond is harder for AI to replace. 28:00 – How TheraSaaS helps therapy practices keep leads from getting lost and helps teams know what happened next. 29:15 – Using a course platform for internal staff training, onboarding, case notes, and practice procedures. HIPAA Toolkit Workshop https://www.coursecreationstudio.com/hipaatoolkitworkshop A live workshop built around The Guesswork Ends Here™ Toolkit: A 30-Day HIPAA Compliance Foundation Workbook . It is designed to help practice owners work through the foundation of HIPAA compliance with a practical toolkit and guided training. The workshop is Friday, September 18, 2026, from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Eastern. Resources From Brent TheraSaaS CRM for Therapists and Practice Owners https://therasaas.com/?utm_source=scaling_therapist_podcast&utm_medium=scaling_therapist_podcast&utm_campaign=scaling_therapist_podcast TheraSaaS helps therapy practices keep leads organized, follow up with people, and give the intake team a clearer picture of what is happening. TheraSaaS on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@therasaas/videos Find videos and marketing tips for therapists and practice owners. Connect with Brent on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentstutzman/ Group Practice Scaling Summit Waitlist https://practicescalingsummit.com/waitlist AI is going to keep changing how people learn. That is the trap if your course is only information. A simple question to ask is this: What can I give my students that AI cannot? Maybe it is support. Maybe it is a tool. Maybe it is someone helping them take the next step.

August 31, 202627 min

STP 179 | Make Hard Conversations Easier: Games for Grief, Feelings, and Connection

Make Hard Conversations Easier: Games for Grief, Feelings, and Connection What do you do when a child, teen, or client answers every question with “fine” or “okay”? In this episode of the Scaling Therapist Podcast, James talks with Krista Smith-Larson, founder of Winning Communications , about using games to make difficult conversations feel safer. Krista shares how her own family experiences with divorce, blended families, grief, anxiety, depression, and trauma led her to create games that help people talk about feelings without making the conversation feel forced. If you work with kids, families, or clients who have a hard time finding the words for what they are feeling, this episode will give you some new ideas to try. 3 Reasons to Listen Help kids get past “fine.” Learn why games can lower the pressure and help kids start talking without feeling like they are being questioned. Make hard topics easier to approach. Hear how Krista uses games to talk about grief, divorce, anxiety, trauma, relationships, and other big feelings. Add something practical to your sessions. Discover simple game ideas therapists, parents, churches, and family ministries can use to build trust and start better conversations. Timestamps 00:00 Why games can help people open up 00:23 HIPAA Compliance Toolkit Workshop with Dr. Natasha Guess 01:15 Meet Krista Smith-Larson of Winning Communications 02:00 Why Krista and James both love games 04:00 How games take some of the pressure out of conversation 05:15 Using games with kids, adults, grief groups, and DivorceCare 06:00 Krista’s story of divorce, blended family life, and helping her kids communicate 08:00 How her first communication game was born 09:15 Turning grief and loss into a way to help others 10:30 Getting past “fine” and “okay” with kids 11:20 The Slippery Slope game and why Grace Cards matter 14:00 Adapting games for children, teens, and adults 16:00 Why parents do not always need to have the right answer 17:00 Who can use these communication games? 18:00 Why games can help therapists build trust faster 18:45 Krista walks through several of her games 20:30 Connect Blocks for divorce, grief, anxiety, trauma, and more 22:45 Helping kids connect words with feelings 24:00 Krista’s favorite go-to game 24:40 Where to find Winning Communications 25:40 Scaling Therapist Services sponsors and resources 26:30 Final HIPAA workshop reminder HIPAA Compliance Toolkit Workshop If a HIPAA issue happened tomorrow, would your practice know what to do? Join Dr. Natasha Guess for The HIPAA Compliance Toolkit Workshop on Friday, September 18 at 11:00 a.m. Eastern . This is a virtual workshop designed to help you apply the toolkit to your practice, work through your questions, and turn scattered policies into a system you can actually use. Go to CourseCreationStudio.com for workshop information and registration. Resources Winning Communications Learn more about Krista Smith-Larson’s communication and play therapy games at: WinningCommunicationsMN.com Scaling Therapist Services Looking for businesses that can help you work through a therapy practice bottleneck? ScalingTherapistServices.com Course Creation Studio CourseCreationStudio.com

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