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This podcast brings refreshing insights of the VS Code Python team, with authentic perspectives on the Python ecosystem and how VS Code fits in it, as seen from a software engineer view and a product manager lens.

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December 6, 2024Episode 630 min

S2 Episode 6 - Denny Perez on her journey into the Python community

🎙️ Welcome to the final episode of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast for 2024! ✨ In this special episode, we had the pleasure of speaking with Denny Perez, a Software QA Analyst and PSF Board Member. Denny shares her remarkable journey from the world of accounting to the realm of IT, and eventually into the Python community. Her story is one of transformation and inspiration, as she has become a trusted mentor for many aspiring contributors to a more diverse and inclusive Python ecosystem. We also discussed our favorite Python-related news from the past year, reflecting on the highlights and milestones that have shaped the community in 2024 -- make sure to tune in! 🎧 Links and Resources: Denny Perez @ GitHub: https://github.com/DennyPerez18 The Python Software Foundation (PSF): https://www.python.org/psf-landing/ Results from 2024 PSF elections: https://discuss.python.org/t/psf-board-election-proposed-bylaws-changes-results-announcement/58465 PyCon US: https://us.pycon.org/2025/ PyCon Charlas: https://us.pycon.org/2025/speaking/charlas/ PyCon Charlas contact e-mail: pyconcharlas@gmail.com Pyladies Con 2024: https://conference.pyladies.com/ Octoverse: Python is the top language in GitHub: https://github.blog/news-insights/octoverse/octoverse-2024/ The Python Sofware Foundation receives the Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub: https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2023/11/psf-wonderfully-welcoming-award-github.html Savannah Ostrowski is officially a Python Core Developer: https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-to-promote-savannah-ostrowski/70302 Someone like you by Adele: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQl3WQQoQ0 Corazón Multicolor by Luis Fonsi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c6T5kyR86g Another sad love song by Toni Braxton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yQ0Fll_9pM Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare

September 6, 2024Episode 530 min

S2 Episode 5 - Vinicius Stock on Ruby & Python: Beyond the Code

If we ask you what the similarities between Ruby and Python are, it's likely that the answer will be they're both dynamically typed interpreted languages. But did you know there's a lot more than just that? 👀 In the 5th episode of season 2 of the Sad Python Girls Club podcast, Vinicius Stock, Staff Developer at Shopify, joins us to explore the similarities between Ruby and Python, extending beyond technical aspects to their vibrant communities ✨ Tune in to learn more about how Ruby support in VS Code works, and how it relates to our team’s efforts to support diverse scenarios for Python 🐍💎 Links and Resources: Vinicius Stock @ GitHub VS Code Ruby extension VS Code Ruby LSP extension Ruby Sorbet (type checker) VS Code extension VS Code Ruby documentation Ruby LSP repo VS Code Ruby design and roadmap doc VS Code Python's new setting, "python.locator" which can be set to "native" or "js" Estranged by Guns N' Roses Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare

August 2, 2024Episode 448 min

S2 Episode 4 - Charlie Marsh on Astral tools

We are over the moon 🌜 to announce a new episode of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast! 🎉 This time, our co-hosts Dawn Wages and Luciana Abud are joined by Karthik Nadig, Senior Software Engineer at Microsoft. And, as a special guest, we have Charlie Marsh, Founder of Astral and the mind behind the popular Python tools Ruff and uv. 🐍✨ In this exciting episode, we dove into the backstory and motivation behind Charlie's creation of Ruff and how that paved the way for Astral. We explore the inner workings of his team and how they manage their awesome tools, and we get an exclusive sneak peek into their future plans. 🚀 It's a super fun episode featuring tech insights and open source learnings, so make sure you don't miss it! Links and Resources Charlie Marsh @ GitHub SPGC's S1 Episode 3 - Karthik Nadig Astral announcement Astral.sh Ruff: An extremely fast Python linter, written in Rust uv: An extremely fast Python package installer and resolver, written in Rust Rye: a Hassle-Free Python Experience "Rye grows with uv" blog post VS Code Ruff extension Ruff language server announcement GitHub Copilot Holocene by Bon Iver Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare

May 3, 2024Episode 338 min

S2 Episode 3 - Courtney Webster on being a PM for Python in VS Code

This is the 3rd episode of season 2 of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast, and we couldn't be more excited about it! 🥳 We had an awesome chat with Courtney Webster, Product Manager II at Microsoft working on the Python development support in Visual Studio Code and Visual Studio 🐍. She’s also the esteemed author behind our monthly release blog posts for the Python extension in VS Code 📰. Dive in with us as we learn about Courtney’s contributions to the Python community, her work to streamline the "getting started" experience for Python in VS Code, her efforts in package management support and educational initiatives, as well her approach to experimentation 🧪 and data-driven development 📈. Links and Resources Courtney Webster @ GitHub Python extension for VS Code blog posts & release notes Python in Visual Studio Microsoft's Privacy Statement How to disable telemetry in VS Code & extensions Microsoft's Experimentation Platform VS Code experimentation client How to opt in, opt out or disable Python extension experiments A look into workflow tools - package management in the Python extension for VS Code, by Courtney Webster @ discuss.python.org PEP 722 - Dependency specification for single-file scripts [rejected] PEP 723 - Inline Script Metadata [accepted] PEP 722 and PEP 723 User Study Discussion by Courtney Webster @ discuss.python.org Python extension's Create Environment command Quick Start Guide for Python in VS Code Microsoft Learn Python Trainings @ Microsoft Learn PyCon US 2024 DjancoCon US DjangoCon Europe 2024 EuroPython 2024 SciPy 2024 CFP: EuroScipy 2024 (Poland), open until May 26th, 2024 CFP: PyCon India 2024, open until May 31st, 2024 CFP: PyCon France 2024, open until July 21st, 2024 CFP: PyCon APAC 2024 (Indonesia), open until August 1st, 2024 What a Time by Julia Michaels ft. Niall Horan Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare

February 16, 2024Episode 229 min

S2 Episode 2 - Eleanor Boyd on Python Testing in VS Code

Welcome to episode 2 of the second season of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast! This time we had the pleasure to chat with Eleanor Boyd, Software Engineer at Microsoft, about her work on improving testing support for Python in VS Code 🧪🐍 Join us for an episode full of geeky tech talk 🤓 as we peel back the curtain on a major refactoring mission that is enabling the development of new testing features to come (😉😉 Django folks). Links and resources: Eleanor Boyd @ GitHub pytest Pytest plugins unittest Python Packaging repository Feature request @ vscode-python to support Django unittests (from November 2017) Coverage.py VS Code's Test Coverage API proposal Python testing in VS Code documentation Episode 214 of the Python Test podcast, featuring Eleanor Boyd and Courtney Webster talking about their work on rolling out the changes on testing support for Python in VS Code. Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare

January 12, 2024Episode 125 min

S2 Episode 1 - New Year, New Season! 🎉

We're ✨ thrilled ✨ to back with another episode of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast! "New Year, New Season" is a celebratory episode marking the beginning of Season 2 of our podcast, this time hosted by Luciana Abud and Dawn Wages. In this episode, we look back at some of the amazing things that happened in 2023 in the Python community 🐍 as well in our teams here at Microsoft (featuring a yearly review on the Python updates for VS Code!). So grab your favorite ice cream 🍦, put on your headphones 🎧 and join us for an episode full of highlights and hopes for an even better 2024 🚀 Links & resources: S1 Episode 12 of the Sad Python Girls Club podcast with Dawn Wages Python 3.12 updates PEP 602 - annual release cycle for Python The Python Pulse, happening every second Friday of every month, at 11am PST VS Code Channel on YouTube Meet the Python for VS Code team at the Python Pulse Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub to the PSF Python People podcast Brett Cannon at the Python People podcast Mariatta Wijaya at the Python People podcast Hidden Figures of Python podcast by the Podcats team Test discovery and execution rewrite update in VS Code Automatic conversion of f-strings with Pylance Code navigation on strings that contain module names with Pylance Move symbol refactoring with Pylance Show Type Hierarchy with Pylance Migrating Python tools to VS Code extensions Data Wrangler extension for VS Code Aka.ms/Python: the new Python at Microsoft website Python in Excel GitHub Copilot extension for VS Code Azure OpenAI Service PyCascades 2024 PyCon US 2024 DjangoCon US 2024 The Christmas Song by Nat King Cole Home by Stephanie Mills Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare

June 23, 2023Episode 1938 min

S1 Episode 19 - Jay Miller

Get ready to be captivated by one of the most inspiring episodes of the Sad Python Girls Club podcast, featuring the incredible Jay Miller! Join us as we delve into Jay's Python journey, starting with attempts to "pythonize" their way out of a job to their unwavering dedication to the vibrant Python community 🐍. Tune in for an episode full of Python, productivity and music talk 🎶 and discover the incredible work Jay and other passionate folks have been doing to enhance representation of Black and People of Color in our beloved Python Community, featuring some invaluable advice on how we can all become better allies and foster an inclusive and welcoming space to all 🤗🌈 Links and resources: Jay Miller @ GitHub Python Community News Conduit podcast Jay Miller's YouTube shorts Jay Milller's previous conference talks San Diego Python Group Melanie Arbor and Jay Miller's Keynote @ DjangoCon US 2022 Pyladies PyCon Africa AfroPython Thinking bout you by Frank Ocean Face Down by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus Intro Song: PastelProducer: Blue.PMusic provided by LogSquare

May 5, 2023Episode 1820 min

S1 Episode 18 - 1 Year Anniversary 🥳

Can you believe it's already the first podcastversary of the Sad Python Girls Club? Neither can we! 🎂 Thank you again for listening to the podcast (and reading this description), let's get ready for another year of ice cream suggestions and emo songs! 🎶 In this episode we discuss whether AI tools can be considered mainstream or not, the Copilot X conversational feature in VS Code, and what's on the horizon for Copilot. 🔮 We also talk about the roadmap for the Python extension, and how the modular extension strategy fits into VS Code's vision of a snappy experience. Links and resources: GitHub Copilot X, the umbrella of Copilot technical previews that includes ChatGPT support in VS Code Replit Ghostwriter Amazon CodeWhisperer Google Bard Google Graveyard - Killed by Google Zed VS Code pets extension Python extension's current & previous iteration plans Python tools extension template Nobody's Home by Avril Lavigne Pity Party by Melanie Martinez Intro Song: PastelProducer: Blue.PMusic provided by LogSquare

April 7, 2023Episode 1729 min

S1 Episode 17 - Sarah Kaiser

Welcome to the 17th episode of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast! Our special guest this time around is Dr. Sarah Kaiser, Senior Developer Advocate at Microsoft. Sarah is an experimental physicist 👩‍🔬 with a PhD in Quantum Computing, and in this episode she talks a bit of her professional journey from academia 🎓 to software engineering 💻 and now to advocacy 👩‍💻, with Python being there every step of the way. This is a super fun and inspiring episode, where we dive into Sarah's passion for helping others working on scientific Python applications find and use the right tools to create amazing things. We also get a sneak peek into some of the amazing stories from her career, featuring some laser-shooting 💥 and a lot of Python 🐍. This episode was recorded on March 24th, 2023. Links and resources: Sarah Kaiser's website Sarah @ Mastodon Sarah @ GitHub Sarah @ LinkedIn Pyladies Quantum mechanics Mathematica Quantum key distribution devices: How to make them and how to break them, by Dr. Sarah Kaiser PyCascades 2023 Sarah's talk at PyCascades, "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Development Environment" Dev containers Duecredit Python package NumFOCUS SciPy community Unitary fund Soojin Choi's episode VS Code extensions: Live Share Data Wrangler Jupyter notebooks VS Code Profiles Anaconda Python extension's Create environment command GitHub Jupyter Notebook Rich Diff feedback discussion GitHub Codespaces To Zanarkand, part of Final Fantasy X Soundtrack Intro Song: PastelProducer: Blue.PMusic provided by LogSquare

March 10, 202327 min

S1 Episode 16 - Isidor Nikolic

Welcome to the 16th episode of the Sad Python Girls Club Podcast! 🐍 We're thrilled to have Isidor Nikolic, aka the VS Code historian, as our special guest this time around! Isidor not only holds the position of Senior Program Manager at the VS Code team, but he's also been working on the editor since day one! 🤯 In this episode, Isidor shares his experience working as a Software Engineer on the VS Code debugger 🪲, his journey to becoming a PM, his contributions to making VS Code more accessible, and all about how VS Code is managed and developed. Tune in and join us as we delve deeper into the story behind everyone's favorite code editor! 👩‍💻 Links and resources Isidor Nikolic @ GitHub Monaco editor Vscode.dev  Github.dev Find the current iteration plan for VS Code, pinned at the top of the repo Latest VS Code update and release notes Erich Gamma's Keynote on developing VS Code in the open  Debugging in VS Code The Debug Adapter Protocol The Language Server Protocol LSIF Accessibility in VS Code You can't always get what you want by the Rolling Stones Intro Song: Pastel Producer: Blue.P Music provided by LogSquare