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Are you ready to take your landscaping business to the next level? Tune in to Roots of Success, the premier landscaper's podcast that brings you the latest tips and strategies from the industry's most successful coaches. Hosted by the subject matter experts at McFarlin Stanford, each episode features candid conversations with industry professionals, landscape business owners and others who have overcome obstacles and achieved extraordinary success. Whether you're struggling with people, profits, or just day-to-day challenges, the hosts from McFarlin Stanford and our guests have real-world experience and practical advice to help you build a thriving and profitable landscape business.

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June 11, 2026Episode 7837 min

Fail Forward and Show Up Consistently: The Culture Playbook from a Second-Generation Owner

What separates the companies people want to work for from the ones they can't wait to leave? In this episode of Roots of Success, host Chris Psencik sits down with Ryan Malone of Malone's Landscape in Seattle, Washington — a second-generation owner, ACE Chairman member and endurance athlete — to talk about one of the most important assets in a growing company: culture. From monthly culture rallies and the Beast Mode award to a bilingual onboarding program and a weekly team newsletter, Ryan shares the real, repeatable traditions that have helped Malone's become a destination workplace. If your team feels stagnant or your retention is slipping, this episode is your playbook. THE BIG IDEA:  Intentional Culture Is Your Biggest Competitive Advantage KEY MOMENTS: [01:30] Ryan's Background: From Collegiate Baseball to Second-Generation Owner [04:00] Why Culture Gets Left Behind — and Why It Shouldn't [07:00] Culture Rallies: Getting Construction and Maintenance on the Same Team [10:00] What Ryan Has Stolen (and Improved) From ACE Peer Group Members [12:00] Building Trust Through Consistency: The Culture Committee [14:00] How the Culture Committee Is Structured, Who's On It, and How It Runs [16:00] Becoming a Destination Workplace — and What That Actually Means [21:00] Bilingual Onboarding: How Myra Bridged the Gap for Field Teams [23:00] The Weekly Team Newsletter — What's In It and Why It Works [27:00] Selling Value at a Premium: How Culture Justifies Top-of-Market Pricing [29:00] Leadership Action Steps: Three Things to Start Right Now [33:00] From Operator to Owner: Ryan's Biggest Lesson [34:00] Final Advice: Join a Peer Group and Fail Forward QUESTIONS WE ANSWER How do you build a strong company culture in a landscaping business? What are some real traditions that create team engagement and retention? How do you fix the construction vs. maintenance divide at company events? What should a culture committee look like, and who should be on it? What are the most common onboarding mistakes — and how do you fix them? How do 30-60-90 day check-ins improve new hire retention? How do you communicate core values consistently across a growing team? What should a weekly team newsletter include? How does a strong culture help you justify premium pricing with clients? What's the best advice for a second-generation owner stepping into a family business? How do you avoid letting culture initiatives go stagnant over time? What does "fail forward" actually mean in practice for a business owner?

May 28, 2026Episode 7749 min

What You Say vs. What They Hear: Mastering Communication in Your Landscaping Business

Most business owners think they're great communicators until things fall apart. In this roundtable episode of Roots of Success, host Chris Psencik is joined by McFarlin Stanford coaches Kevin Keim and Tracy Wallingford to tackle one of the most common and costly problems in growing landscaping companies: communication breakdowns. From choosing the right tools and building meeting cadences, to mastering one-on-ones and leveraging CliftonStrengths, this episode is packed with practical strategies to help you lead more intentionally, retain your best people, and serve your clients better. THE BIG IDEA:  What You Say Isn't Always What They Hear KEY MOMENTS: [02:00] The #1 Communication Problem in Growing Companies [05:00] Why Choosing the Right Communication Channel Matters [08:00] Technology, Remote Work & Communication Evolution [12:00] What Communication Systems Actually Work for Field Teams [15:00] The Sales-to-Production Handoff and How to Nail It [16:00] One-on-Ones: Strategy, Structure & Why They're Non-Negotiable [20:00] Reactive vs. Proactive: Tactical vs. Strategic Conversations [24:00] How the Customer Experience Suffers When Communication Breaks Down [28:00] The Telephone Game with Clients — and How to Fix It [30:00] How Do You Know If You Have a Communication Problem? [33:00] Global Employee Engagement Is at a 5-Year Low — What That Means for You [36:00] Introduction to CliftonStrengths & the Philosophy Behind It [40:00] Case Study: Coastal Greenery's Strengths Journey QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What is the #1 communication mistake business owners make? How do I choose the right communication channel for my team? What tools and systems should growing landscaping companies use for internal communication? How should I run a one-on-one with my employees—and why does it matter? What's the difference between a tactical hallway conversation and a strategic one-on-one? How does poor communication hurt the customer experience? How do I know if my company has a communication problem? What is CliftonStrengths and how does it apply to leadership and communication? What does a real-world strengths implementation look like for a landscaping company? How do I empower my team to bring solutions instead of just problems?

May 14, 2026Episode 7633 min

Transparency, Liquidity, and Bankers – How to Take Control of your Business' Value

How does financial clarity impact your business value? In this episode of the Roots of Success, join host Jennifer Murray as she talks about financial health check-ups, banking relationships and team transparency with Jonathan Peterson of Summit Landscape in Hondo, TX. Hear from Jonathan how he improved decision-making, lender relationships, and has grown a more resilient company prepared for future opportunities. From managing liquidity to positioning your business for growth, the two share real-world tactics to prevent costly blind spots. THE BIG IDEA:  Financial Clarity Drives Strategic Growth KEY MOMENTS: [01:44] Jonathan's Company Overview [03:58] Importance of Financial Health Assessments [06:21] Navigating Cash Flow Challenges [09:07] Building Strong Lender Relationships [15:34] Importance of Financial Clarity [20:01] Understanding Company Value [26:58] Team Engagement in Financial Clarity QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What is the importance of understanding your company's financial health? How can financial health assessments reveal hidden cash flow issues? What strategies can improve lender relationships for business growth? How does knowing your company's value impact strategic decision-making? What role does team engagement play in financial stability? How can businesses navigate cash flow challenges effectively? Why is liquidity crucial for maintaining strong banking relationships? What are the benefits of regular financial health checkups? How can understanding financial metrics lead to better business outcomes? What are the key steps to align a team around financial clarity?

April 30, 2026Episode 7544 min

Out of Necessity: Landscapers' Hacks for AI and DIY Development

Get ready for a high-impact conversation on the intersection of landscaping, technology, and innovation! In this episode of Roots of Success, Kevin Keim sits down with ACE Peer Group standouts Sterling West of Newport Avenue Landscaping and Sam Zale of Zale's Lawn and Landscape. Discover how these forward-thinking business owners are using AI, not just as a buzzword, but as a hands-on tool to streamline operations, overhaul tech stacks, and dramatically improve customer experience. From custom-built workflows to real-time insights that flag potential pitfalls, you'll hear concrete examples of how and why these trailblazers dove headfirst into AI. Tune in if you're looking to make technology work for you! THE BIG IDEA:  AI unlocks operator efficiency KEY MOMENTS: [03:46] Starting with customer experience automation [07:04] Building Zale Central program [12:05] Automating scheduling and payments [14:02] Implementing project management insights [17:12] Building with Lovable and AI integration [20:41] Streamlining processes with SOPs [24:26] Building a tech stack with Manus [27:00] Using AI to optimize processes [32:45] Using AI to improve operations [34:59] Using AI to boost efficiency [38:04] Discussing project quality assurance QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What inspired the guests to initially explore the use of AI tools in their landscaping businesses? How did implementing AI impact the customer experience for the companies featured? What specific operational challenges led to the creation of custom software solutions within these organizations? In what ways did the adoption of AI reduce or consolidate the number of platforms and tools previously used by these companies? Can you describe some of the key processes or workflows that have been automated using AI in the businesses discussed? What financial implications, such as cost savings, resulted from shifting to more AI-driven systems? How did employees respond to new AI-enabled tools and what changes did it bring to their daily responsibilities? What practical advice was given for companies interested in starting small with AI implementation? How does leveraging AI agents support quality assurance and error reduction for landscaping companies? What are some predictions about how AI might further transform client interactions and project management in the landscaping industry?

April 16, 2026Episode 7434 min

Control the Flow of Your Business: AI Streamlining Water Management – Part 2

Join Chris Psencik and Mark Pyrah for Part 2 of an insightful discussion on how leveraging tech, automation, and AI is driving double-digit growth, improving customer experience, and keeping landscape businesses ahead of the curve. They discuss why remote access and automation are game changers, the revenue impact of rigorous inspections, and how to create scalable systems without bloating your headcount. Tune in for proven tactics and visionary predictions on where the industry is headed next. THE BIG IDEA:  Irrigation is more than maintenance KEY MOMENTS: [04:45] Focusing on increasing inspections [09:34] Using software and automations [12:23] Standardizing dashboards for team roles [17:02] Scaling growth with AI tools [20:48] Measuring impact and customer experience [23:31] Sales strategy and close rates [27:47] Technicians and AI in water management [29:01] Using technology to improve profitability [33:54] Closing and how to connect QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What percentage of controller connectivity is considered the goal for optimal irrigation operations, and why is this connectivity so crucial? How can remote access controllers improve efficiency and work-life balance for a landscape maintenance team? Why is a 95% inspection rate deemed non-negotiable for irrigation audits, and how does it impact business revenue? How does increasing inspection frequency affect the monthly revenue generated per irrigation technician? In what ways do automation and software integrations streamline standard operating procedures in irrigation management? What are some examples of automations that can reduce administrative time for irrigation techs and asset managers? How is dashboard customization used to drive daily behaviors and focus among different team positions? What strategies are mentioned for improving the customer experience through technology and standardized procedures? How does emphasizing "scaling capability, not headcount" affect overall profitability and team effectiveness in the business? What process is recommended for organizations looking to adopt more automation and improve workflow efficiency in their irrigation or maintenance divisions?

April 2, 2026Episode 7331 min

Control the Flow of Your Business: Reframing Irrigation as Strategic Water Management – Part 1

What if your organization's biggest untapped profit center was hiding in plain sight? In this episode, Chris Psencik sits down with Mark Pyrah, President Elect of the Oregon Landscape Contractors Association, to uncover how Peak Landscape moved from viewing irrigation as a "necessary evil" to harnessing it as a strategic, revenue-driving arm of the business. Mark shares how a mindset shift, targeted training, cutting-edge tools, and streamlined workflows helped overcome internal resistance and create scalable systems. Packed with actionable advice on KPIs, SOPs, and integrating AI for real-time support, this episode is your blueprint for transforming irrigation management into an engine of growth. THE BIG IDEA:  Irrigation is more than maintenance KEY MOMENTS: [04:32] How the business got started [08:19] Rebuilding irrigation into water management [12:23] Collaborative workflow redesign [13:46] Building workflows before SOPs [18:51] Troubleshooting a faulty controller [19:57] Challenges in recruiting expertise [24:06] Tracking performance with KPIs [28:51] Making irrigation a profit driver [31:24] Faster repairs for profitability QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What mindset shift turned irrigation from a necessary evil into a profitable center within an organization? How does managing millions of gallons of water daily impact other elements like fertilizer usage and plant health? What steps are critical for successful implementation of new technology in an irrigation division? Why is workflow mapping prioritized ahead of building SOPs in the transformation process? Which key performance indicator can drastically reduce delays and boost customer retention and profitability? How can involving team members in the development of SOPs and workflow increase buy-in and adoption? What challenges arise when transitioning experienced technicians from traditional inspection methods to new processes? How has the application of AI and automation streamlined troubleshooting and knowledge sharing among irrigation techs? What is the significance of maintaining a high percentage of customers with pre-approved repair amounts? Why is it important to have role-specific metrics for technicians, managers, and business leaders within an irrigation-focused organization?

March 19, 2026Episode 7242 min

What Happens When You Stop "Gutting it Out" and Start Using Your Numbers to Make Decisions

Ready to move beyond gut feelings and bank account balances? In this episode, Noe Loarca gets real about the challenges of managing a landscape business without adequate financial data and how participation in ACE peer groups turned things around for him. Hosted by Ian Hanemann, the conversation explores the critical numbers every landscaper should track, the benefits of open-book management, and the significance of benchmarking performance. Discover how accurate financial data enables better decision-making, drives efficiency, and empowers both owners and employees. Perfect for anyone seeking practical, peer-tested success strategies in the landscaping world. THE BIG IDEA: Ownership unlocks success KEY MOMENTS: 04:51 "Learning from Peer Insights" 07:07 "Transparency Boosts Team Efficiency" 10:48 "Focus on Direct Labor Efficiency" 13:06 Team Engagement Through Ownership 18:04 "Maximizing Profit Through Clarity" 22:13 Sharing Profit for Employee Growth 26:12 Empowerment Through Shared Ownership 27:43 Empowering Teams with Financial Clarity 30:38 "Setting Clear Goals for Success" 35:27 "Focusing on Cash Flow" 37:58 "Growth Challenges and Cash Flow" QUESTIONS WE ANSWER How can open bookkeeping impact employee engagement and efficiency in a landscape business? Why is benchmarking with peer businesses considered valuable for identifying blind spots in operations? What are some strategies for maintaining healthy cash flow during seasonal fluctuations in landscaping? How does access to detailed financial data influence decision-making within different divisions of a business? In what ways can sharing financial reports with team members foster accountability and ownership? What are the challenges businesses face when transitioning from gut-feeling management to data-driven financial clarity? How can breaking down overhead and direct labor costs help improve profitability? What role does forecasting and budgeting play in planning for growth, such as hiring or equipment purchases? Why might a service or division, like snow removal or lawn care, be less profitable than expected, and how can data shed light on this? What are the risks associated with rapid growth in service businesses and how can strong financial planning mitigate them?

March 5, 2026Episode 7142 min

Risky Business: Essential Insurance Strategies Every Business Needs to Know

On this episode of Roots of Success, Chris Psencik digs into the changing landscape of insurance for green industry businesses with special guests Chase Campbell and Cal Fallaize from Sage Insurance and Risk Advisors. The group unpacks how auto insurance has become a massive pain point, often making up 70% of insurance premiums. Additionally hear why old settlements are a thing of the past, and how business owners can safeguard their assets amid rising legal risks. Featuring real-world stories, actionable tips, and the inside scoop on managing insurance modification ratings, this episode sheds light on navigating insurance trends, protecting your business, and driving profitability in 2026 and beyond. If you're wrestling with your P&L and unsure about your coverage, don't miss this episode! THE BIG IDEA:  Insurance is a line item that must be actively managed. KEY MOMENTS: [03:49] Solving Insurance Challenges in Landscaping [06:44] Insurance Costs Scale with Growth [10:48] Litigation Costs Skyrocketing [14:40] "Key Metrics for Project Success" [19:03] Mod Analysis for Performance Insight [20:57] "Portfolio Adjustments for Success" [24:10] Subcontractor Insurance Considerations [29:10] Proactive Landscape Business Renewal Tips [32:59] "GPS, Cameras, and Loyalty" [34:49] "Insurance is Like a Parachute" [37:11] "Managing Costs Through Right Questions" QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What factors are contributing to the rapidly increasing costs of auto insurance for landscape companies? How can businesses ensure their insurance coverage grows appropriately with their revenue and operational changes? What are the potential risks of maintaining a stale relationship with your agency or insurance provider? Why is it important to implement a return-to-work program for injured employees within the landscape industry? How can mod ratings affect a company's ability to secure commercial contracts, and what steps can be taken to improve them? What are the main challenges and precautions when working with subcontractors in landscaping projects? Which insurance metrics and safety practices should landscape business owners regularly monitor to safeguard their fleet and assets? Why are legacy rates so important in the current insurance market, and what strategies help protect them? How does shopping out insurance every year or every other year impact your company's relationship with carriers and possible rates? What are some overlooked policy exclusions or errors that can have major financial impacts, and how can they be detected?

February 19, 2026Episode 7046 min

ACE Coaches Roundtable: Mow Money, Less Problems by Mastering your Finances

Financials don't have to be intimidating and in this episode of Roots of Success, you'll learn why! Join hosts Jason New, Chris Psencik, and Jim Cali as talk with fellow ACE facilitator Jennifer Murray, a former banker and finance professor, and Ian Hanemann, ACE Peer Group financial analyst, to break down the essentials of financial checkups, valuations, and benchmarking for landscaping professionals. Discover the real stories behind business transformations, tips for leveraging KPIs, why "live" numbers matter, and how team involvement turns financial goals from solo stress into company-wide wins. Whether you're planning for growth, exploring acquisitions, or just want the confidence to make smarter business decisions, this episode is the episode for you. THE BIG IDEA:  Let numbers drive decisions KEY MOMENTS: [00:00] "Financial Insights for Business Growth" [05:14] "Ian: The Voice of Confidence" [08:08] "Learning Business Beyond Landscaping" [10:22] Peer Group KPI Analysis Process [14:00] Business Financial Health Checkup [18:36] Critical Business Planning Insights [20:43] "Shifting Trends in Business Acquisitions" [24:58] "ACE Program: Master Your Financials" [27:23] "Mastering Business Financial Language" [29:41] "Tracking Cash Flow Strategically" [35:01] "Valuing Businesses via EBITDA" [38:06] "Working Smart, Not Hard" [41:27] Importance of Live Financials [43:30] "Client's Breakthrough with Finances" QUESTIONS WE ANSWER What are some of the key financial metrics that companies should focus on to drive their business forward? How does understanding trailing 12-month numbers help landscaping businesses mitigate the effects of seasonality? Why is benchmarking considered a valuable tool for business owners in the green industry? Can you describe the process and impact of conducting a financial health checkup for a business? What is the significance of having a proactive plan regarding cash flow when taking on new contracts or expanding capacity? In what ways do team members beyond the finance department contribute to improving a company's key performance indicators? How can companies benefit from knowing the difference between direct, indirect, and overhead expenses? What are some real-world examples of how businesses have used financial benchmarking or evaluations to inform acquisition decisions? Why might maintenance revenue streams be valued higher than installation services during a business valuation? What practical steps can a business owner take to ensure their financial reporting is both timely and actionable for operational decisions?

February 5, 2026Episode 6936 min

Strengthening Roots: Introducing our new CEO – Scott Wallingford

Step behind the scenes with McFarlin Stanford as Jim Cali, Jason New, and newly-appointed CEO Scott Wallingford share the story of a pivotal leadership transition. Discover how long-standing friendships, trust, and a forward-thinking approach are driving growth and innovation at McFarlin Stanford. Hear firsthand how Scott's expertise will help the team scale, serve clients better, and lead the green industry into an exciting new chapter. Whether you're passionate about leadership, business evolution, or the roots of true partnership, you won't want to miss this episode. THE BIG IDEA:  Leadership evolves, but vision unites McFarlin Stanford KEY MOMENTS: [03:21] "Scott's Clever Business Strategies" [09:26] "Driving Growth with Expert Support" [10:56] Improving Operational Efficiency [13:17] Planning for Long-Term Success [17:27] "Effective Leadership Launch Strategy" [22:15] Transforming Business with Expert Support [26:24] Expanding Expertise for Client Needs [27:01] Scaling Success with Expert Insights [33:37] "Excitement for Green Industry Growth" [34:06] Innovating Green Industry Consulting QUESTIONS WE ANSWER How does a company benefit from hiring a leader with an outsider's perspective in a specialized industry? What challenges arise when a business grows rapidly and needs to maintain high-quality service for its clients? How important is it for team members to have direct communication with leadership during periods of organizational change? Why might operational discipline be crucial for scaling a business effectively? In what ways can a company's culture impact its ability to adapt to growth and change? What role does client feedback play in shaping new services or areas of expertise within a business? How can a business ensure that new initiatives are successfully implemented rather than just planned? Why might it be valuable for a company to focus on building strong internal communication tools and processes? How does having a diverse team with expertise in various functions help when tackling industry-specific challenges? What are the benefits of regularly assessing and adjusting the company's long-term goals and plans?