People and Strategy

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People and Strategy is a podcast from the SHRM Executive Network delivering in-depth conversations with HR executives and people leaders to advance the field of human resources by providing engagement and thought leadership to senior executives. Learn more about the SHRM Executive Network at https://www.shrm.org/executive.

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October 16, 202642 min

AI in HR: Embracing AI Without Losing the Human Touch in Hospitality

What if one of the most people-first industries in the worldis also one of the best places to see how AI should, and shouldn’t, be used in HR? In this episode of People + Strategy, Mo Fathelbab sits down with two leaders running HR at top hotel companies to explore how they integrate AI without losing the personal touch guests expect. Hear examples of AI in action from Aka Ali-Kerr, director of HR for Andaz West Hollywood and Unscripted Durham and Gregory Curtis, corporate director of HR and strategy at Avion Hospitality — a portfolio which includes The Windsor Court hotel in New Orleans, voted among the top 500 hotels in the world by Travel + Leisure in 2026. Recorded live at SHRM’s Executive NetworkVisionaries Summit 2026, this conversation gives HR professionals insight into AI-driven compensation tools to aid in recruiting and dashboards to house client data. For more AI use cases, visit SHRM's AI Field Manual Toolkit: https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/tools/toolkits/ai-field-manual-use-cases-at-work Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr --- Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r

October 13, 20267 min

Top Takeaways from Visionaries 2026: Live from Indianapolis

In this special episode, we’re recapping highlights from the SHRM Executive Network’s 2026 Visionaries Summit in Indianapolis. Hear directly from industry leaders, chief people officers, and senior HR leaders about their biggest takeaways from the event, what’s top of mind for them right now, and the ideas they’re bringing back to their organizations.  Couldn’t make it to Visionaries this year? Tune in for insights from the leaders who were there, and learn more about the SHRM Executive Network.  For more information about the Visionaries Summit, visit: https://www.shrm.org/executive-network/networking-events/visionaries-summit     Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

October 2, 202628 min

Beyond the Resume: Rethinking How Leaders Assess Talent

What if the best candidate isn’t the one with the strongest resume, but the one who can actually demonstrate the skills the job requires?  In this episode of People + Strategy, Mo Fathelbab sits down with Namrata Kamdar, co-founder and COO, and Abhishek Shah, founder and CEO of Testlify, to explore how organizations can rethink hiring around skills, evidence, and job-relevant assessments. Kamdar and Shah discuss how AI-powered assessments and structured evaluation can help organizations reduce hiring friction, improve the candidate experience, and make more consistent hiring decisions. They also explore how assessment data can extend beyond recruitment to identify skill gaps and inform employee development.  The conversation examines what leaders should consider before introducing AI into the hiring process, from defining what success looks like in a role to maintaining human oversight. Kamdar and Shah also look ahead at how AI could transform assessments from static tests into realistic simulations of the work candidates will actually perform.  Related Article: How a Fire Department’s HR Leader Used AI to Rebuild Recruiting  Related Resource: AI Field Manual for Employers  Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

September 21, 202645 min

Leading With Creativity and Intuition in the Age of AI

In this episode of People + Strategy, we sit down with Natalie Nixon, CEO and founder of Figure 8 Thinking, and author of The Creativity Leap, to explore how leaders can harness creativity and intuition to drive business results. She emphasizes that amplifying human capabilities is critical in navigating an era of AI. Nixon also shares practical techniques, including question storming and doodle sprints, to help leaders make creativity an everyday leadership practice.    Drawing on her experience advising executive leadership teams, Nixon reveals a common yet costly mistake: organizations chase innovation before developing the creative capabilities needed to sustain it. She breaks down the business ROI of creativity, how leaders can use intuition alongside data to make strategic decisions, and how curiosity can reshape workplace culture.    Related Article: 3 Mindset Shifts HR Leaders Need to Solve the Trust Deficit   Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

September 3, 202637 min

Is The Future of Work Fractional?

How do top organizations solve their toughest leadership challenges when full-time resources are scarce? Some companies are relying on fractional c-suite leaders, seasoned executives who have opted to lend their expertise to companies on a contract basis rather than work full-time for one company.   In a special recording with a live audience for SHRM’s podcast, People + Strategy, fractional HR leaders share their insights on how they approach HR from a fractional perspective and their view on what longevity looks like for the HR profession.   Attendees will learn how fractional HR leaders are shaping the future of work and hear real-world stories of navigating change.] Related Articles:   https://www.shrm.org/executive-network/insights/3-attributes-of-successful-fractional-c-suite-execs   https://www.shrm.org/executive-network/insights/fractional-hr-perspective-what-does-strategic-hr-look-like    Related Podcast: https://www.shrm.org/executive-network/insights/podcasts/rise-of-fractional-c-suite-leaders   Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

August 21, 202638 min

The Path from HR to the Boardroom

What does it take for HR leaders to earn a seat in the boardroom? For executives looking to make the move, understanding how to stand out as a board-ready candidate is critical in an increasingly competitive landscape.     In this episode of People + Strategy, we sit down with Debra Boggs, CEO of D&S Executive Career Management, to explore the path from HR to the boardroom. Boggs shares how HR leaders can define their unique value, build a network that opens doors, increase executive visibility, and position themselves for corporate board opportunities. She also offers guidance for HR leaders navigating board relationships and presenting with confidence to the board.  Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

August 7, 202649 min

The ROI of AI: How HR Leaders Are Using AI as a Value-Add

What does it take for organizations to turn AI investments into measurable business results? As companies navigate rapid technological change, HR leaders are increasingly using AI to drive efficiency, improve decision-making, and create more strategic impact across the enterprise. These findings can be used to provide HR’s value-add across the c-suite — from conversations with the CFO to the CEO.  In a special recording with a live audience for SHRM’s podcast, People + Strategy, HR leaders from global organizations share how they are approaching AI adoption, measuring ROI, and balancing innovation with human-centered leadership.   AI Field Manual for Employers: 138 Use Cases for AI at Work: https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/tools/toolkits/ai-field-manual-use-cases-at-work    AI Use Case on Job Description Drafting and Refinement Job Descriptions:  https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/news/how-fire-departments-hr-leader-used-ai-to-rebuild-recruiting  Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

July 24, 202639 min

Benefits Under Pressure: How HR Leaders Are Rethinking Total Rewards in 2026

In this episode of People + Strategy, we sit down with Kathryn Mayer, content specialist at SHRM, to discuss how employee benefits are evolving in 2026. Drawing on her extensive experience reporting on total rewards, Mayer explores how rising healthcare costs, economic uncertainty, and shifting workforce priorities are prompting organizations to rethink their benefits strategies.  She discusses the shift from a talent-attraction mindset to a cost-management mindset, how employers are balancing employee needs with financial realities, and the strategies organizations are using to manage rising healthcare expenses while maintaining trust and engagement. Mayer also explores emerging trends, including the role of AI in benefits administration, the future of financial wellness, and why some benefits remain resilient despite mounting budget pressures.   Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

July 10, 202646 min

Defining Leadership: An Intergenerational Panel of HR Leaders

HR leaders are reexamining what effective leadership truly means in a rapidly transforming world — particularly as generational differences reshape expectations for how leadership is defined, practiced, and communicated in today’s workplace. This is going to become more important than ever, given the fact that the U.S. labor force demographics are shifting. The fastest-growing segment of the U.S. labor force is expected be workers age 75 and older. Supporting this talent pool and the five generations of the workforce will continue to be a challenge.  In a special recording with a live audience for SHRM’s podcast, People + Strategy, an intergenerational panel of HR leaders explores how leadership styles have evolved over time, the role of technology in shaping workplace expectations, and how different generations approach communication, purpose, and organizational change.  Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr   ---  Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r 

June 12, 202634 min

Before You Quit: What 20 Years at Kellogg Taught This Executive

In this episode of People + Strategy, we sit down with Kris Bahner, senior advisor for Mars Snacking and former chief global corporate affairs officer at Kellanova, to explore the state of employee retention in 2026. Drawing on a 35-year career with two decades with Kellogg and Kellanova, Bahner shares why staying can be a powerful career strategy in an era defined by job hopping. She explains how long-term investments in relationships, trust, and institutional knowledge can accelerate growth and leadership impact. Bahner also reflects on leading through major transformations, including Kellogg’s spinoff in 2023 and the Mars acquisition of Kellanova in 2025. She offers insights on retaining talent and helping employees thrive through change. Resources from this Week's Episode - Toolkit: Managing Organizational Change https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/tools/toolkits/managing-organizational-change Toolkit: Improving Employee Retention and Reducing Turnover https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/tools/toolkits/managing-employee-retention Subscribe to People + Strategy podcast to get the latest episodes, expert insights, and additional resources delivered straight to your inbox: https://shrm.co/nq47pr --- Explore SHRM’s all-new flagships. Content curated by experts. Created for you weekly. Each content journey features engaging podcasts, video, articles, and groundbreaking newsletters tailored to meet your unique needs in your organization and career. Learn More: https://shrm.co/coy63r