Passive Income Pilots

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Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life. Whether you're a seasoned pilot or just starting out, we'll equip you with the expertise and confidence you need to upgrade your money and achieve true financial independence.

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June 16, 202657 min

#157 - Who Gets Paid First? How Real Estate Deals Are Actually Structured

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson break down one of the most important but often misunderstood parts of real estate investing: the capital stack. They explain how senior debt, mezzanine debt, preferred equity, and common equity shape risk, returns, and who gets paid first. For pilots and high-income professionals evaluating passive income opportunities, this episode offers a practical framework for understanding leverage, deal structure, DSCR, private credit, and why projected returns do not tell the whole story.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(1:10) Ways investors get paid(3:08) Capital stack basics(4:11) Debt drives real estate risk(7:32) All-cash versus leveraged deals(10:31) Common equity explained(18:50) Preferred equity position(21:10) Checking debt ahead(27:39) Rescue capital versus healthy deals(35:36) Operator view on structure(42:05) DSCR and cash flow cushion(57:18) OutroRelated Episode: #2 - Invest Passively in DST and Opportunity Zones with Brandon BruckmanIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

May 20, 202633 min

#156 - From Active Deals to Passive Income with Chris Prefontaine

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back Chris Prefontaine for a practical conversation on active investing, creative deal structures, and using real estate to build capital for future passive income. Built for pilots and high-income professionals, this episode looks at what it takes to move beyond simply writing checks into deals and start understanding how opportunities are created. Chris brings a seasoned perspective on today’s market, traditional bank limits, and the skills investors need before getting more hands-on. If you have ever wondered whether active real estate could help fuel your long-term wealth strategy, this episode is worth your attention.Chris Prefontaine is the Chairman and Founder of Smart Real Estate Coach®, a best-selling author, and host of the Smart Real Estate Coach® Podcast. With nearly 35 years in the industry, Chris has helped investors better understand creative real estate strategies through changing market cycles. His work gives listeners a practical look at how experience, education, and smart deal structure can shape a more resilient investing path.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(0:44) Active income to passive wealth(4:36) Chris’ real estate background(9:23) The three-payday strategy(11:51) First steps for active investors(16:44) Creative financing trends(19:04) What does creative financing mean(23:28) Personal guarantee risks(27:03) Buying short-term rentals(33:03) OutroConnect with Chris:Website: https://3paydaysbooks.com/pip LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprefontaine/ Related Episode: #97 - Creative Deal Structuring: Smart Real Estate Strategies with Chris PrefontaineIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

May 13, 202627 min

#155 - The New Reality of Aviation Hiring with Nik Fialka

What happens when the aviation job market shifts faster than pilots are prepared for?Live from TPNX in Dallas, Tait Duryea sits down with Nik Fialka for a timely look at pilot hiring, airline interviews, and career strategy in a changing aviation market. From major airline hiring trends to the pressure facing Spirit and regional pilots, this episode gives pilots and aviation families a clearer view of what is shifting, what still matters, and why preparation can make or break the next opportunity. If you know an aspiring pilot, military transition pilot, regional pilot, or airline hopeful, this is the conversation to send them before the next interview window opens.Nik Fialka is a major airline pilot, former U.S. Navy pilot, aviation mentor, and host of Ready 4 Pushback. As part of Spitfire Elite, he helps pilots prepare for high-stakes airline interviews with a focus on confidence, communication, leadership, and cultural fit. With experience across military aviation, airline operations, and pilot coaching, Nik brings a practical, no-fluff perspective to the career decisions that shape a pilot’s future. His work supports aviators from flight training to major airline interviews and beyond.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(1:48) Nick’s aviation background(3:36) Inside Spitfire Elite(5:11) Why interview prep matters(7:08) Authentic interview answers(8:49) Ready for Pushback podcast(12:13) State of aviation hiring(18:04) Major airline hiring numbers(19:37) Advice for Spirit pilots(22:59) Standing out beyond flight time(27:16) OutroConnect with Nik Fialka:Website: https://spitfireelite.com/ Email: podcast@spitfireelite.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-nik-fialka-86b16515/ If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

April 28, 202655 min

#154 - The Pilot’s Guide to SDIRA Tax Traps with Mark Kohler

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back Mark Kohler to unpack one of the most misunderstood topics in self-directed IRA investing: UBIT and UDFI. Mark explains how these taxes show up in real estate syndications, why leverage can trigger tax inside an IRA, when C corp blockers may help, and what pilots should watch for on K-1s and 990-T filings. This episode gives high-income professionals a clearer way to evaluate SDIRA deals without letting tax fear cloud the bigger investment picture.Mark Kohler is a CPA, attorney, tax strategist, and longtime advocate for small business owners and investors. With decades of experience in tax law, entity structuring, retirement planning, and asset protection, Mark is known for making complex tax strategies easier to understand and apply. He brings practical clarity to the rules that affect pilots and high-income professionals using retirement dollars to invest beyond Wall Street.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(0:48) UBIT and self-directed IRAs(4:32) Understanding UBIT, UDFI, and 990-Ts(5:36) Why UBIT exists(10:05) How C Corp blockers work(14:37) Reading K-1 warning signs(18:57) How leverage creates UDFI(23:09) Comparing SDIRA and cash investors(31:18) Trust tax rates explained(37:41) When IRAs need an EIN(41:37) Real numbers on UDFI taxes(55:30) OutroConnect with Mark:Website: https://markjkohler.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjkohler/ Related Episodes: #110 - The IRA Club Advantage: The Self-Directed IRA Strategy for Pilots with Ramez Fakhoury#36 - Decoding the Untapped Potential and Complex World of Self-Directed IRAs with Derreck Long#82 - From LLCs and HSAs to Roth IRAs: Mastering Wealth Protection with Mark KohlerIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

April 14, 202649 min

#153 - Tax Moves Every Pilot Should Know with Nathan Sosa

How much money are you leaving on the table by waiting until tax season to start planning?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with Nathan Sosa from Hall CPA to break down the latest tax updates that matter most to pilots and high-income professionals. Get ready to hear practical insights on bonus depreciation, the short-term rental strategy, oil and gas tax benefits, passive real estate losses, and why filing an extension may be smarter than rushing to file. They also clear up common confusion around K-1s and explain when it makes sense to bring in a CPA.Nathan Sosa is a tax strategist at Hall CPA with a master’s in taxation and deep expertise in helping high-income earners, including pilots, navigate complex tax planning. His advice helps investors think ahead, avoid costly mistakes, and make smarter tax decisions.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(0:43) Meet tax strategist Nathan Sosa(4:27) State of the tax world(5:00) Bonus depreciation back to 100%(8:03) Net investment income tax explained(12:01) SALT deduction surprises and limits(15:08) Bunching charitable deductions strategy(17:13) Short-term rental tax strategy(20:28) Oil and gas tax benefits(31:23) What happens when deals sell(42:59) Extensions, amendments, and late K-1s(49:16) OutroConnect with Nathan Sosa:Website: https://www.therealestatecpa.com/become-client/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathansosacpa/ Related Episodes: #14 - Depreciation Demystified: Cost Segregation and Tax Savings in Real Estate with Toby Mathis#92 - Opportunity Zones for Passive Income: Unlock Tax Savings and Growth with Nathan Sosa#118 - The Big Beautiful Tax Bill with Nathan SosaIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

April 7, 202648 min

#152 - Free Estate Planning and a Hidden Tax Strategy with Jenny Spradling

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Jenny Spradling, co-founder of FreeWill, to explore how estate planning can be simpler, faster, and even free. Jenny explains why millions of Americans still lack basic estate documents and how that creates major complications for families. The conversation breaks down probate, wills vs. trusts, and why both are often needed. They also uncover powerful strategies around charitable giving, including how donating appreciated assets like stock or crypto can dramatically increase tax efficiency while maximizing impact. This episode offers practical insights for pilots and high-income professionals thinking about legacy, taxes, and protecting their wealth.Jenny Spradling is the co-founder and co-CEO of FreeWill, a platform that provides free estate planning tools to individuals across all 50 U.S. states. A serial entrepreneur focused on financial access, Jenny previously founded Paribus, a consumer fintech startup. Through FreeWill, she has helped over 1.4 million people create estate plans and facilitated nearly $14 billion in charitable bequests. Her work focuses on making estate planning simple, accessible, and integrated with modern giving strategies.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(3:22) Jenny Spradling’s entrepreneurial background(6:56) Why people include charity in estate plans(11:34) Understanding probate and why it matters(13:30) State differences in estate planning laws(16:44) What happens when you die intestate(20:22) Why trusts still need a will(24:24) When to use online estate planning vs attorneys(31:10) How to start thinking about charitable giving(44:15) Major tax advantages of donating stock(47:55) OutroConnect with Jenny:Website: https://www.freewill.com/ Email: Jenny@freewill.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenxia/ Related Episodes: #114 - Trusts, Taxes & Transfers: What Every Investor Should Know with Amanda Wynalda#127 - LLCs, Trusts, and K-1s: Smarter Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh#137 - Revocable Vs. Irrevocable Trusts: What Pilots Must Know with Adam KintighIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

April 2, 202648 min

#151 - Debt, AI, and the Next Market Cycle with Guy Adami

What happens when record debt, rising interest rates, and AI disruption collide in the global economy?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back market veteran Guy Adami to unpack the forces shaping today’s financial markets. From bond yields and inflation to the Buffett Indicator and AI’s impact on jobs, Guy offers a behind-the-scenes look at what professional investors are watching right now. The conversation explores why the market feels strong even while many stocks are down sharply, how passive investing has reshaped valuations, and why global debt and currency devaluation may become defining issues for the next decade.For pilots and high-income professionals building wealth, the episode highlights the importance of understanding what you own, staying tactical in uncertain markets, and focusing on long-term asset ownership in an inflationary world. Guy Adami is a veteran market strategist, hedge fund manager, and the longest-tenured host on CNBC’s Fast Money. With decades of experience analyzing global markets, macroeconomics, and equities, Guy is known for breaking down complex financial trends into practical insights investors can use.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(03:12) Why market volatility is returning(04:32) Global bond yields driving market stress(06:07) The narrow market leadership problem(07:39) Buffett Indicator warning signals(10:38) How investors should approach markets(13:36) AI disruption and labor market risks(21:33) AI hype cycles and tech bubbles(31:04) Treasury auctions and global debt pressure(39:20) Tactical investing in uncertain markets(47:02) OutroConnect with Guy Adami:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-adami-304618a/ Website: https://www.riskreversal.com/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@RiskReversalMedia If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

March 27, 202640 min

#150 - From Listener to Investor with John Wahrmund

Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with First Officer at Southwest Airlines pilot John Wahrmund to unpack how one listener turned podcast advice into real results. John shares how episode 10 pushed him to buy a short-term rental in Galveston, unlock major tax savings, and rethink how his family builds wealth. This episode highlights intentional investing, knowing your market, using the right team, and why tax strategy can be a powerful tool for high-income professionals who want more freedom, options, and time.John Wahrmund is a Southwest Airlines pilot and retired Air Force officer who spent 20 years flying military aircraft before starting his airline career. In this episode, he shares how he used lessons from Passive Income Pilots to buy a short-term rental in Galveston, reduce his tax liability, and build a more intentional long-term wealth strategy for his family. His story brings a practical, real-world example of what happens when a listener takes action.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(0:56) John’s aviation background(2:08) Why he brought tax returns(6:25) An episode that sparked action(8:43) Why Galveston made sense(12:21) How the tax strategy works(15:09) Financing the first property(18:03) Tax savings over cash flow(21:51) Start with your real goal(30:24) Tech stack for remote hosting(36:06) Why the real win is time(40:02) OutroConnect with John Wahrmund:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-wahrmund-56151810 Email: johnwahrmund@gmail.com Related Episodes:#10 - Reduce Your Taxes & Maximize Returns Using PROVEN Investment Strategies with Toby Mathis#23 - Counting the Cost: The Risks and Rewards of 401(k) Loans for Pilots#41 - Short-Term Rental Strategies To Maximize Your Passive Income with Dan Templin:#68 - Cruising to Success: Optimizing Your Short-Term Rentals with Airbnb Insider Daniel Rusteen#110 - The IRA Club Advantage: The Self-Directed IRA Strategy for Pilots with Ramez Fakhoury#137 - Revocable Vs. Irrevocable Trusts: What Pilots Must Know with Adam KintighIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

March 11, 202634 min

#149 - Side Hustles Every Pilot Should Consider

Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson explore one of the most common questions among airline pilots: Should you start a side hustle? Drawing from Ryan’s early experience building income streams during layovers, the hosts share practical ideas pilots can pursue both inside and outside aviation. From consulting and drone photography to aircraft brokerage and real estate investing, they explain how extra income can become the fuel for long-term wealth building. They also discuss tax strategy, airline contract knowledge, and why passion matters when choosing a side hustle. If you’ve ever wondered how to turn extra time into opportunity, this episode offers plenty of ideas.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(1:03) Ryan’s first airline side hustle story(3:00) Turning layover time into opportunity(5:23) Why extra income matters for investing(6:30) Discipline and tax planning for side income(7:26) Using airline contracts to create free time(10:10) Aviation side hustle ideas explained(17:34) Helping pilots prepare for airline interviews(22:50) Non-aviation side hustles and real estate(30:53) Airline training and instructor opportunities(33:43) OutroRelated Episode:#95 - Franchise Investing 101: Insights and Opportunities with Cliff NonnenmacherIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

March 5, 202645 min

#148 - Traditional Vs. Roth IRAs: What Pilots Need to Know

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson break down one of the most important retirement decisions pilots face: Traditional vs. Roth IRAs. They explain how taxes impact withdrawals, why required minimum distributions matter, and how poor planning could leave your kids with a massive tax bill. The conversation also explores advanced strategies like Roth conversions, self-directed IRAs, and “Roth chunking” during low-income years. If you want to build wealth through real estate while protecting your retirement from unnecessary taxes, this episode offers practical frameworks to help pilots think long-term about their portfolio, income streams, and legacy planning.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(3:01) Traditional vs Roth fundamentals(7:30) Required minimum distributions explained(11:13) Nest egg vs golden goose investing(14:55) Using self-directed IRAs for real estate(21:37) Inherited IRA tax pitfalls(26:08) Roth chunking for new airline hires(30:58) Strategic Roth conversions during low-income years(35:11) Passive income to fund retirement(38:35) Advanced Roth conversion appraisal strategy(45:38) OutroRelated Episode:#110 - The IRA Club Advantage: The Self-Directed IRA Strategy for Pilots with Ramez Fakhoury: https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/110-the-ira-club-advantage-the-self-directed-ira-strategy-for-pilots-with-ramez-fakhouryIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.