The Ledger Podcast

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Aug 2026

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Ledger is the gold standard of security in the crypto space. Our signers are essential for anyone wanting to take control of their digital value. At the heart of this ecosystem, Ledger connects you with everything in the digital assets space, providing access to services and freedom from compromise on security, ownership or user experience. On 'The Ledger Podcast', we have conversations with some of the most interesting thought leaders in crypto, cybersecurity and culture to discuss the journey so far and what the future might hold. Follow and subscribe for insights and discussions you won't find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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August 25, 202619 min

How AI Agents Get Paid on Solana Without Touching Private Keys

Agents can now complete tasks, write code and get paid on Solana. The part that shouldn't change: humans retaining final control over the assets. Ian Rogers, Chief Human Agency Officer at Ledger, sits down with Pavel, co-founder of AgenC — a marketplace where agents claim jobs and submit results. The design starts from one assumption: the host machine is compromised. Agents build and drive transaction flows, but never touch private keys. The Ledger device acts as a supervised signer, not a blind one, connected through Ledger's Device Management Kit. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 25, 20261 hr 4 min

How to Fix the Security Flaw Built Into Every AI Agent | The Ledger Podcast ft. Shisa.ai

AI agents are capable and easily fooled at the same time. They can read your data, act on your behalf, and reach the outside world. Because LLMs don't fundamentally separate data from instructions, anything they read can be treated as a command. In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, Leonard Lin, CTO of Shisa.ai, in conversation with Ledger Chief Human Agency Officer Ian Rogers, talks about building AI agents you can trust. Leonard's framework, Shisa D, inverts the usual control plane so the AI proposes and the system decides. Secrets are removed from the model, tool calls are reviewed by a separate layer, and the highest-risk actions route to a Ledger signer, where you see the real intent in plain text and approve it with a physical tap. Plus a live demo of Shisa D routing an action to a Ledger signer for hardware approval. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 19, 202636 min

Inside DeFi Vaults: Staying in Control of Your Assets

What is a DeFi vault, and how do you use one without handing over control of your money? In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, Ledger’s EVP of Consumer Services JF Rochet sits down with Adrian, co-founder of Steakhouse Financial, a leading on-chain asset manager specializing in institutional-grade DeFi vaults, to break it down from the basics up. The takeaway: do your own research, take it seriously, and when you're ready, sign with a Ledger signer. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 9, 20261 hr 1 min

Quantum Is Not Here Yet. The Trust Problem Is.

Quantum computing is coming for the cryptography that secures payments, messaging, websites, banks and blockchains. But how worried should you actually be, and what should anyone be doing about it? In this new episode of The Ledger Podcast, Ledger CTO Charles Guillemet sits down with Ledger Head of Brand Development Mo El-Sayed to unpack what's really happening — without the doom. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

February 13, 202638 min

AI Agent With a Wallet. What Could Go Wrong?

In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, the team dives into the rise of the “agentic world” — a future where AI agents act on your behalf to move funds, sign transactions, and manage digital identity. But as agents become more autonomous, one critical question emerges: how do you trust them with your secrets, identity, and wealth? Fresh from the Circle USDC hackathon, Ledger engineers share how they built a secure bridge between AI automation and hardware-backed security using Moltbook — a platform designed specifically for agent interactions. Their solution enables AI agents to create transaction “intents” that require human approval on a Ledger device, keeping private keys protected inside the secure element. The episode also unpacks a real-world lesson in AI risk: when the OpenClaw agent over-optimized for hackathon votes, it spiraled into a cascade of failed jobs after hitting rate limits — proving exactly why “human in the loop” guardrails are essential for agentic commerce. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

January 9, 202639 min

From SWIFT to Stablecoins: The New Operating System for the World’s Economy

In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, Jean-François Rochet (EVP of Consumer Services) sat down with Shah Ramezani, CEO and Founder of Noah, to explore how stablecoins are connecting the traditional finance world with crypto and why payments are the key to real adoption. Shah explains why stablecoins quietly proved their value during the market downturn, how people were already using them to move money, and what’s been missing to make on-chain and fiat payments work seamlessly together. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

December 19, 202533 min

Building Trust in Crypto: Ilia Vulkov on Security, Regulation & Payments Rails

In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, Sebastian Badault (EVP, Ledger Enterprise) sits down with Ilya Vulkov, Co-Founder & CEO of Youhodler, to unpack a question every serious builder faces: how do you earn trust in digital assets? Ilya explains that crypto isn’t a “revolution," it’s an evolution, and what that means in practice: borrowing proven financial controls, governance, and risk frameworks, then bringing them on-chain with better speed and usability. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

December 12, 202528 min

Why Blind Signing Is Killing DeFi

In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, Jeff Rochet EVP of Consumer Services at Ledger sits down with DaoSasha, Head of BD at 1inch to talk about one of the most critical pain points in crypto: blind signing. They explain why signing transactions you don’t fully understand is a massive blocker to DeFi mass adoption, and how clear signing on Ledger devices with direct 1inch integration helps fix that.You’ll hear how 1inch evolved from a DEX aggregator to a full DeFi infrastructure brand, why they rebranded around the slogan “Move Forward As One”, and how their collaboration with Ledger lets users swap on 1inch while verifying every transaction on a trusted Ledger screen.They also look ahead to the future of DeFi: Clear signing as the new standard for secure transactions Tokenization of real-world assets (RWAs) What institutions need: compliance, transparency & UX Wallets as identity, reputation and ownership hubs Learn more about the 1inch integration: https://support.ledger.com/article/6490128879389-zd Explore Ledger https://www.ledger.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

December 5, 202554 min

Crypto's Privacy Problem: Why you don't have privacy!

What happens to crypto when everything on-chain becomes encrypted by default? In this episode of the Ledger Podcast, host Kyle O’Brien (COS @ Zama) sits down with Rand Hindi (Founder & CEO @ Zama) and Charles Guillemet (CTO @ Ledger) to dive deep into privacy, fully homomorphic encryption (FHE), hardware security, and why institutional adoption is making onchain confidentiality a must-have, not a nice-to-have. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

November 21, 202535 min

Securing Value: An Enterprise Perspective on the Ownership Economy

In this episode of The Ledger Podcast, we dive deep into the emerging frontier of the ownership economy, where consumers become stakeholders, loyalty becomes liquid, and brands are rebuilt from the bottom up. Our EVP of Ledger Enterprise, Sebastian Badault sat down with Ovie Faruq ,co-founder and CEO of REKT Brands, live from Ledger Op3n at 106 in Paris. From crypto-native companies to the shifting power dynamics of brand building, Ovie unpacks why traditional loyalty is broken, how brand coins reshape the value exchange, and why the next generation of global brands will be built with their communities, not above them. They discuss: Why crypto-native builders create differently How brand coins reward early supporters Why legacy giants like Pepsi & P&G can’t simply “copy” crypto-native brands The emotional and financial value of community-owned brands What happens when consumers become co-creators Enjoy the episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.