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OIG Roundtable (Formerly Retro Fraud)

OIG Roundtable (Formerly Retro Fraud)

Hosted by Eric Rubenstein

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Episodes

10

Latest episode

Oct 2026

Language

EN-US

About the show

Former HHS-OIG Senior Special Agent Eric Rubenstein discusses historical fraud cases that either he or others investigated and how the "circus does not change, only the clowns do." In these podcasts, Eric and his guest discuss how the facts of the case have significance to today’s fraud schemes.

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October 21, 202625 min

Episode 194: When CMS Directives for Reviews Affect Commercial Plans

Eric and Wade discuss how CMS’ recent additions to the RAC audit protocols to include an additional 20 topics can have an implication on how plans run data, determine spikes and seek to resolve data inconsistences.

October 14, 202632 min

Episode 193: The disparity between federal and state prosecutions

Eric, Wade and Matt discuss the huge disparity that can exist in healthcare fraud prosecutions that happen in state and federal courts. We discuss the importance of strong leadership to reward work, that is not necessarily tied to results. We also discuss the increases in healthcare costs and how members and payors need to work together to reduce the FWA in claims.

October 7, 202628 min

Episode 192: Qui Tams Matter and Polices Still Need Reviewing

Eric and Matt discuss a recent policy disseminated by the DOJ that discusses the sub-regulatory role of policies in the government space (LCD/NCD). While these polices do not have the force of law or regulation, they are still seminal points to be relied upon from an investigative perspective.

September 30, 202621 min

Episode 191: Participation loopholes in Medicare Advantage

MA plans are not required to reject claims from non-participating providers, while traditional Medicare requires providers to be enrolled in order to submit claims. This creates a huge FWA opportunity as there is no real way to vet the provider and the claims since there is no contractual relationship between the provider and payor (unless some state law or regulation establishes such a relationship via the submission of the claim itself).

September 24, 202625 min

Episode 190: Identity Theft and healthcare Fraud: Top of Mind

Eric and Matt discuss a recent case where an individual engaged in identity theft and sought healthcare benefits under the stolen identity. This case is notable as the dollar amount was fairly low in comparison to other healthcare fraud matters, but demonstrates the aggressive approach the US Attorney’s Office is taken to curb FWA.

September 16, 202623 min

Episode 189: The Pig and the Python. How does an economic discussion for baby boomers relate to SIU operations

Eric and Matt discuss the Pig and the Python and how the influx of baby boomers will have an effect on SIU operations and staffing needs.

September 3, 202628 min

Episode 188: How a Kentucky Indictment Should be a Roadmap for Stop and Verify

Eric and Wade discuss a recent indictment of a medical biller who engaged in a 6-year system Medicaid fraud scheme which included false billing for behavioral health providers, billing for deceased patients, incarcerated patients and patients that were under hospital care.

August 26, 202625 min

Episode 187: Incident To and the Ability to Think Logically

Eric, Matt and Wade discuss the often overlooked need to capture the right documents in an Incident To investigation. Catch phrases in requests for documents such as “including, but not limited to” can create confusion for providers. Get what you need the first time with some of our advice.

August 19, 202622 min

Episode 186: The Stickiness of OIG Exclusions

Eric and Matt discuss a recent $46m global resolution involving the cornucopia of kickbacks: lavish gifts, cash and prizes. The pharmaceutical manufacturer resolved the matter and was not excluded. Like winning the Showcase Showdown, and getting a 4 day, 3 night stat at the NY Algonquin Hotel, sometimes fraud does pay.

August 13, 202626 min

Episode 185: The UPICS are Coming, the UPICS are Coming

Eric, Wade and Matt discuss recent work being done by UPICS as it relates to plans and audits being conducted by the UPICS of plans. This is bit of a shift from what we know the UPICS to do, but is not uncommon.

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