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Off the Ledger

Off the Ledger

Hosted by MICPA

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Episodes

58

Latest episode

Jun 2026

Language

EN

About the show

Michigan CPAs get real as we take it ‘off the ledger’ and cover everything from stories, personal financial tips, leadership development to honestly- who knows? We’re just getting started! Tune in as the MICPA interviews a variety of CPA guests ‘Off the Ledger’.

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June 2, 202634 min

AI Results for Skeptics

On this episode of Off the Ledger, Joe is joined by Greg Frazier, CPA, owner of Greg Frazier, CPA, PLLC, to discuss how AI should be viewed much like previous waves of technology. While professional skepticism remains essential, adaptation ultimately creates new opportunities rather than eliminating the accounting profession.

April 27, 202616 min

Membership Does Have Its Benefits

On this episode of Off the Ledger, Joe sits down with Adam Schubatis, CPA, audit senior manager at KPMG, to highlight the wide range of Michigan Association of CPAs membership benefits, spanning advocacy, collaboration and education, while emphasizing resources members may not realize are already available.

February 25, 202621 min

The Case for AI In Auditing

In this episode, Joe talks with Megan Angle, CPA, of Porte Brown LLC in Illinois, about the practical applications of using AI as an auditing tool, not a replacement for professional judgment, and encourages firms to start experimenting now to improve efficiency, documentation and client conversations.

January 27, 202619 min

Your Mental Health Audit

In this episode, Joe talks with Cindy Bjorkquist, director of activation and events at Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, about the connection between mental health and overall well-being, particularly for high-stress professionals such as CPAs. Bjorkquist shares practical, research-backed tools to help listeners calm their minds, build resilience, and respond thoughtfully under pressure.

December 18, 202518 min

Bobcast 2025

As 2025 winds down, Joe talks with Bob Doyle, president and CEO of MICPA, reflecting on the organization’s past, present and what’s ahead. They look back on a year focused on empowering members through advocacy, collaboration and education, discuss progress on an additional CPA licensure pathway, and look ahead to an inspiring 2026, including signature events and a milestone 125th anniversary celebration.

November 24, 202517 min

LARA and Order

In this episode, Joe talks with Michigan’s director of the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, Marlon Brown, DPA, about his path into public service and the wide scope of LARA’s work. They cover everything from Michigan’s economic landscape to ongoing efforts to streamline regulation, including an additional pathway for CPA licensure.

October 28, 202514 min

The Human Side of Leadership

In this episode of Off the Ledger, Joe talks with Lisa Dy, CPA, MBA, and Mindset Coach at Boundless Potential Coaching, about how trust, vulnerability, and emotional intelligence help leaders connect more authentically with their teams. Lisa shares insights from her journey from CPA to coach, emphasizing the power of self-awareness, embracing imperfection, and investing in personal growth to build a stronger, more human-centered workplace.

September 23, 202519 min

How Accounting Ethics Account for AI

In this episode, Joe talks with Dori Danko, CPA, MBA, accounting instructor and accounting internship coordinator at Grand Valley State University’s Seidman College of Business, about how accounting ethics intersect with artificial intelligence (AI). They discuss real-world classroom experiences, AI’s potential to detect and commit fraud, regulatory issues such as “AI washing” and best practices for accountants to use AI responsibly as both a tool and a skill set.

August 26, 202513 min

A SALTy Retrospective

In this episode of Off the Ledger, Joe speaks with Jordan Goodman of Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP in Chicago about the evolving state and local tax laws, including changes to federal protections, market-based sourcing challenges and the impact on small businesses.

July 30, 202518 min

Beyond the Ledger: Building a Stronger Team through Effective Communication

This month Joe speaks with George Copeland, CEO of GMC Consulting, about how the DISC behavioral assessment can improve team communication by helping individuals understand and adapt to different personality styles. George shares personal insights on how applying DISC has strengthened his leadership, reduced conflict, and fostered more supportive and effective workplace dynamics.

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