Permission Sales

Hosted by Charles Specht

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Hosted by Charles Specht, the Permission Sales Podcast is the top podcast for entrepreneurs, consultants, and salespeople in all industries who need to gain the “permission” of their prospects in order to win — including insurance agents, brokers, and producers who want to quote less and win more signed Broker of Record Letters. Charles was an insurance producer with a $1,000,000+ Book of Business before launching an independent consulting company (Constructive Risk) to construction companies and other business owners. He also coaches and trains insurance agents (Permission Network) on what buyers are looking for, how to brand themselves, market, differentiate, prospect, set more new business appointments, and win loyal clients. He is a fractional Chief Sales Officer for numerous businesses across the USA and Canada. Charles understands what your prospects both want and need and this podcast will give you the tools of how to implement his 5-Part “Permission Sales Framework” and package your 12-Month Timeline of Services in such a way that your prospects will fire their incumbent salesperson and hire you instead … during the very first appointment!

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June 2, 202621 min

Permission Prospecting That Sets Appointments

It's not about you. Literally, prospecting is not about you. Prospecting is about your prospect, not you. So ..... STOP TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR AGENCY AND YOUR PEOPLE AND YOUR HISTORY AND ... Do you understand? Your prospects don't care about you. They don't care about you --- yet! They will later, just not now. While prospecting, you're a stranger and people don't want to meet with strangers to learn about the stranger's agency or about other strangers who work at a stranger's agency. Get it? You see, you need to focus on your prospect. It's about them. It's about the Prospect. It's about their problems and their struggles and their worries and their costs and what keeps them up at night. Prospecting is about winning your prospect's undivided attention (a.k.a. their "Permission"). In this episode, host Charles Specht explains how to prospect using "Permission Prospecting" so that your prospect agrees to meet with you and then will give you everything you want and need so that you can get what you want. It's all about permission! Visit our website at: www.permissionsales.com Follow Charles Specht on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesspecht Key Topics: Prospecting is not about you, it's about solving your prospect's problems The permission-based approach to prospecting and why it changes everything Matching your outreach method to how your prospect actually wants to be reached Why one-trick-pony prospecting leaves commissions on the table Building at least three prospecting channels to maximize appointment-setting success The danger of agents who talk about themselves instead of buyer solutions How to identify your prospect's pain, amplify it, and position your solution Why most agency leaders train producers on coverage, not how to sell or get permission The five-part Permission Sales Framework and where to access it Charles's fractional CSO and one-on-one coaching services for producers and agencies Reach out to Charles Specht Visit: Permission Network Produced by PodSquad.fm

May 28, 202629 min

It's All About Permission | Ep 001

Welcome to the 1st episode of the newly rebranded podcast: PERMISSION SALES In this episode, host Charles Specht talks all about "permission" and how you can obtain that permission from your prospects. Without permission the best you can hope for is 2nd Place. Permission is about giving the prospect what they want so that they'll give you what you want. You want exclusive access, to become the incumbent agent, and for the prospect to choose you. And nothing says you have my permission like a signed Broker of Record Letter. Without permission it's extremely difficult to win in sales. That's why it's so important to define permission, know what it is, and know how to get it. Be sure to subscribe now to the Permission Sales Podcast. Key Topics: The rebrand from Millionaire Insurance Producer Podcast to the Permission Sales Podcast Seth Godin's "Tribes" and the philosophy of finding your people Defining permission: giving prospects what they want to get what you need A signed Broker of Record Letter as the clearest expression of permission Quoting without permission and why agents lose even when priced lower The Find Your 50 framework for targeting the right client count Working commission math backward to reach a $500K or million-dollar book Three to three-and-a-half years as the timeline to a full book Permission at every level, prospects, carriers, and underwriters all require it Thinking like your prospect, not a producer, to start gathering commission Reach out to Charles Specht Visit us at: Permission Network Permission Sales Podcast on LinkedIn Permission University Courses & Curriculum Permission Producer School Chief Sales Officer Produced by PodSquad.fm

May 21, 202625 min

Podcast Rebrand - The "Permission Sales" Pivot

In this episode of the Millionaire Insurance Producer podcast, host In this last episode of the Millionaire Insurance Producer Podcast, host ⁠Charles Specht⁠ tries to hit you squarely between the eyes. In other words, he wants to get you thinking. Do you need to pivot? Do you need to start something -- finally! -- that you've been thinking about for a while but just haven't gotten around to getting it going? Why are you doing what you're doing? Why haven't you picked your Micro-Niche yet? Why haven't you started prospecting yet ....like you know you should? Why have you reverted back to doing things you know you shouldn't? And why aren't you getting the sales results you want? Well, that's what Charles is going to talk to you about in this episode. Oh yeah, and this is the last episode of the Millionaire Insurance Producer Podcast. (a moment of silence, please) But stay here with us because we're doing a simple rebrand/refresh here on this podcast channel and the new name of the show will be: PERMISSION SALES We can't wait! Key Topics: Just because you've been doing it doesn't mean you should keep doing it The Millionaire Insurance Producer Podcast is rebranding to the Permission Sales Podcast Permission: getting your prospect to give you exclusive marketplace access so you can win Pivot or step forward - stop skating the fence of indecision Reverting to old habits after coaching is the rut that kills results Nobody in your office wants to buy from you - get out and face your prospects Door knocking, walk-in visits, and text messaging are the most overlooked prospecting weapons Going back to failed tactics like a dog to its own vomit - recognize the pattern and stop The five-part Permission Sales Framework and the book Charles is writing around it What the Permission Sales podcast will cover for insurance agents and agency leaders going forward Reach out to ⁠Charles Specht⁠ Visit: ⁠Permission Network⁠ Produced by ⁠PodSquad.fm⁠

May 7, 202628 min

In Order to Win Someone Else Has to Lose

In order for you to win a new client the incumbent agent has to lose. The incumbent agent needs to get fired in order for you to get hired. But how do you get the insured to realize their agent is a "bum" without you saying it? In this episode, host ⁠Charles Specht⁠ will teach you how to uncover problems with the incumbent agent and get the insured to admit to you that their agent is a "bum" and sign your Broker of Record Letter during the first appointment. Does it sound too good to be true? Well, it's not. You just need to learn the art of Superior Service, Reward Offered, Incumbent Expectation, Prospect's Lips. Check out our website to see our sales training offerings:⁠ https://permissiongroup.com/permission-university/⁠ Are you an agency owner looking for someone to help your sales team set more appointments and win more profitable accounts? Then consider hiring Charles Specht as you agency's fractional Chief Sales Officer on retainer:⁠ https://permissiongroup.com/chief-sales-officer/⁠ Key Topics: Winning means someone else loses - your real job is getting prospects to fire their current agent and hire you The "insurance agent bum" - producers coasting on renewals while delivering zero real value to insureds Why badmouthing the competition backfires and makes the insured defend the bad decision they already made Showing your superior service and its reward first, then asking if the incumbent agent does the same Workers' comp submission tactic: including an injury and illness prevention program to unlock 3-7% rate reductions most agents never pursue The one-agent-one-quote trap that trained insurance buyers to bring in multiple agents instead of granting exclusivity Renegotiating with underwriters after a carrier is selected - averaging 11% savings on standard and up to 17% on surplus lines Open-ended questions designed to make insureds conclude on their own that their agent is a bum Micro-niching as the foundation for uncovering the gaps that make the BOR request inevitable Charles's California commission network: 12 agencies selected to receive construction referrals directly from his consulting client base Reach out to: ⁠Charles Specht⁠ Visit: ⁠Permission Network⁠ Produced by ⁠PodSquad.fm⁠

April 30, 202626 min

Appointment Setting (and Getting Awarded the BOR)

Two things... In this episode of the Millionaire Insurance Producer Podcast, host ⁠Charles Specht⁠ briefly shares how to set more new business appointments, what to say in order to set those appointments, how to convert those prospects into loyal clients, and ....... he talks about a new, select group of small- to medium-sized insurance agencies who will be brought in to take over the insurance policies (via BOR) of his consulting clients. Key Topics: Insurance producers actually work two careers, and appointment setting is the first one you must master A 25-35% hit ratio means wasting three-quarters of your career on accounts you'll never close The "price plus something" prospecting script that sets more appointments than pitching better service ever will Frontloading prospecting from 8 to 10 AM before email, apps, or client calls Walk-in visits outperform cold calls for setting appointments Stop quoting for non-clients - the 4 to 24 hours per account is a total waste without earned trust Why a closing rate below 60% signals you're coming across as a generalist, not a specialist Micro-niched producers should be converting 85-90% of prospects into signed clients Charles announces a select referral program introducing his consulting clients to handpicked agencies Agency owners and principals only - the requirements to qualify for Charles's California referral group Reach out to ⁠Charles Specht⁠ Visit: ⁠Permission Network⁠ Produced by ⁠PodSquad.fm⁠

April 2, 202626 min

The Secret Sauce to Building a Huge Book of Business

The secret sauce to building a huge Book of Business does exist. It really does. The issue is just that you don't know the recipe yet. You don't know how to set more appointments, win more signed Broker of Record Letters, and build a base of loyal clients who choose you and renew with you, year after year. But that can change right now! In this episode, host ⁠Charles Specht⁠ will pull back the curtain and give you the FOUR INGREDIENTS of the "secret sauce" for building a huge Book of Business. What are the four ingredients you ask? Pain, Problem, Solution, and Reward What do those mean? Well, that's why you need to listen to this episode! If you're interested in hiring Charles for sales training, visit:⁠ https://permissiongroup.com/sales-coaching/⁠ If you're an agency leader interested in hiring Charles as a fractional Chief Sales Officer, visit:⁠ https://permissiongroup.com/chief-sales-officer/⁠ If you're interested in participating in the next cohort of Permission Producer School, visit:⁠ https://permissiongroup.com/permission-producer-school/⁠ Happy prospecting! Key Topics: Stop talking about yourself and your agency during prospecting - prospects don't care about you yet Pain is the only reason prospects ever go looking for a new insurance agent Price is the pain point, not the actual problem - learning to tell the difference is critical Pinning the pain on the incumbent agent and making them the root cause of the prospect's frustration The pain-problem-solution-reward framework as the secret sauce to building a huge book of business Features and benefits pitches fall flat because prospects who feel no pain see no reason to switch Prospecting on pain to set appointments, then shifting focus to the problem at the first meeting How producers can apply the pain-problem-solution-reward formula to diagnose their own sales struggles The cost of winging it without a process and why it keeps producers stuck with the same results Hiring a sales coach or fractional chief sales officer as the solution to breaking through commission plateaus Reach out to ⁠Charles Specht⁠ Visit: ⁠Permission Network⁠ Produced by ⁠PodSquad.fm⁠

March 19, 202625 min

Your Fizzle Rate Is Making You Poor (Here's How to Fix It)

You're losing – literally – tens of thousands of dollars in new business commission each year because your Fizzle Rate is way too high. What's a Fizzle Rate? A Fizzle Rate represents the number of prospects who agree to meet with you and have you quote, but they just don't get you the information you need to put together a submission to go to the marketplace to gather quotes. The prospect simply "fizzles out" and you lose. My estimates for the Fizzle Rate is somewhere between 10% - 40% of all the prospects you meet with. Seriously, the Fizzle Rate is costing you – and your agency – tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars each year in new business revenue. In this podcast episode, host Charles Specht teaches you two things you need to start doing in order to reduce the Fizzle Rate and win more new clients. Also, if your agency is looking for a way to increase new business sales, consider hiring Charles as your agency's fractional Chief Sales Officer. Go here to learn more: https://permissiongroup.com/chief-sales-officer/ And, did you know you can watch the video of these podcast episodes as well? Visit our YouTube page as well at: https://www.youtube.com/c/permissionsales Key Topics: The fizzle out ratio and why 10-40% of prospects never deliver the data you need Becoming high maintenance with a 25-item request list kills your submission rate Cutting your Fizzle Rate by 50% adds tens of thousands in revenue without changing anything else Collecting prospect data in three waves to keep momentum alive Stop asking prospects to pull their own loss runs - it tips off the incumbent and tanks your close ratio Handle supplemental applications by phone yourself - insureds will answer them incorrectly Prospects fizzle because they forget the goal - your tagline must remind them of the reward Reinforcing your one-liner in follow-up emails re-anchors prospects and drives them to act Tracking fizzle ratio, close ratio, and submissions won is non-negotiable for serious producers The revenue math: agents writing $100K in new business could be leaving $25K on the table every year Reach out to Charles Specht Visit: Permission Network Produced by PodSquad.fm

March 12, 202626 min

Should You Lead with "Price" or "Service" When Prospecting?

Do you find it difficult to set new business appointments? Most agents struggle with this as well. Usually it has a lot to do with what you're saying (or not saying) to your prospects. Is your script focused on "Price" or is it focused on "Service" or even something else? Because it matters. In this episode, host Charles Specht will explain which script variation tends to work better for which types of prospects. Frankly, the answer may surprise you. And, if you can make the necessary adjustments it should result in more set appointments with your prospects! For more information on the insurance sales training services or even the Fractional Chief Sales Officer offerings by Charles Specht, visit: www.permissiongroup.com. Key Topics: Price and service are two sides of the same coin - prospect with both, not one or the other Insurance buyers understand price instinctively but not coverage nuances - speak to their level Nearly every pricing problem traces back to a missing or inadequate service from the wrong agent Most agents skip renegotiating with underwriters, leaving prospects paying 5 to 15% more than necessary Attaching price pain to a specific missing service is what earns the prospect's agreement to meet A sample renegotiation strategy script that ties premium savings to a unique underwriter approach Scripting and messaging must target problems the prospect already feels - not gaps only you can see Avoid leading with EPLI or cyber liability - prospects don't feel the pain of those coverage gaps Price plus service prospecting sets more first appointments and ultimately wins more signed broker of record letters Reach out to Charles Specht Visit: Permission Network Produced by PodSquad.fm

February 12, 202619 min

Don't Play "Pat-A-Cake" with Your Commission Check

Too many insurance producers are playing Pat-A-Cake with their insurance careers. They're not taking seriously the need to focus, to get prepared, to see what works and pivot as needed, etc. They're just wingin' it, throwing mud against the wall to see what sticks. But you don't want to play Pat-A-Cake with your commission check. In this episode, host Charles Specht explains what both producers and agency leaders need to do to get serious about winning in order to build a $1,000,000 or more Book of Business. ---------- PS --->>> The next cohort of the "PERMISSION PRODUCER SCHOOL" will be starting on February 16, 2026. Find out more information by visiting: www.PermissionProducerSchool.com You won't want to miss out on this one! Key Topics: Playing Pat-A-Cake with prospecting, scripting, and career shows up in your commission check Winging it without researching carriers, appetites, and competitors is patty cake business Why prospects say no: you failed to articulate your value compared to your fee Recording yourself prospecting reveals where you lose attention and energy in your script Agency owners can't afford to let producers wing it when hiring costs too much Creating cold call scripts, one-liners, and differentiation statements eliminates amateur behavior What no really means: you haven't helped them understand the value of moving forward yet Tracking social media and email analytics helps dominate your space instead of guessing Permission Producer School teaches how to dominate with broker of record letters and full marketplace exclusivity Reach out to Charles Specht Visit: Permission Producer School Permission Network Produced by PodSquad.fm

February 2, 202630 min

Convincing Your Prospects to Only Get Quotes from You

In this episode of the Millionaire Insurance Producer Podcast, host ⁠Charles Specht⁠ discusses the challenges insurance agents face in prospecting and securing exclusive access to markets. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the insurance buyer's perspective, the necessity of Micro-Niching to stand out, and the common issue of agents presenting only one quote in their proposals. Charles advocates for positioning yourself as a "multiple quote option producer" to build trust and ultimately win clients' business through exclusivity. TAKEAWAYS: Prospecting can be frustrating when clients seek multiple quotes. Insurance buyers often don't understand the process or the agents. Micro-Niching helps agents stand out and build trust. Agents should present multiple options to clients. A strong marketing summary is crucial for success. Positioning is key to winning clients' trust. Clients prefer agents who show them multiple options. Understanding the client's perspective is essential. Agents need to change the perception of their role in the market. The Permission Producer School offers valuable training for agents. Moreover, the next cohort of the "PERMISSION PRODUCER SCHOOL" will be starting on February 16, 2026. Find out more information by visiting:⁠ www.PermissionProducerSchool.com⁠ You won't want to miss out on this one! Produced by ⁠PodSquad.fm⁠