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Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & Work

Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & Work

Hosted by Gea Gort & Bill Job

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82

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Jul 2026

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Grow in your partnership with God in your daily life at work and in business. In this Business as Mission (BAM) podcast series you will discover keys together with Gea Gort and her co-host Bill Job. Their aim is to strengthen your partnership with God, to become professionally excellent and to be spiritual fruitful in your daily life at work. Bill speaks from 30 years experience as BAM-practitioner in China and shares how God transformed his ideas; the journey became much lighter. Gea and Bill also invite others to join the conversation. Get inspired through these candid talks about life and faith; about challenges and blessings. This bi-weekly podcast is connected to the online learning platform BAM Moves.com where you can find short and to-the-point course material rooted in real life. ]]>

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August 12, 202628 min

Creation Care: An Essential Part of God's Mission

What if caring for creation is not optional—but central to God's mission?In this episode of Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & Work, Gea Gort and Bill Job welcome Mark Polet—biologist, Business as Mission (BAM) leader, and passionate advocate for Creation Care.Mark shares his remarkable journey from environmental scientist to global BAM practitioner, explaining how caring for the earth became an essential part of his calling. Together they explore why creation care is not a distraction from the Gospel but an expression of it.They discuss how the BAM movement has rediscovered the environmental "bottom line," how businesses can contribute to ecological and spiritual flourishing, and why restoring land, communities, and relationships reflects God's Kingdom.Filled with practical stories from Central Asia, Africa, and beyond, this conversation offers hope that business can become a powerful force for restoration.In this episode you'll discover:Why Creation Care belongs at the heart of Business as MissionHow stewardship reflects the character of GodThe turning point that changed the BAM movementPractical examples of businesses restoring people and the landWhy flourishing creation points people to the CreatorHow every believer can participate in God's restoration of the worldWhether you're an entrepreneur, business leader, or simply passionate about God's Kingdom, this conversation will broaden your vision of mission and stewardship.👉 Learn more about Mark's work at regen.global Subscribe for more conversations on faith, business, leadership and Kingdom living.#BusinessAsMission #CreationCare #KingdomKeys #FaithAtWork #ChristianBusiness #KingdomBusiness #Stewardship #EnvironmentalStewardship #Creation #Leadership #FaithAndWork #BAMGlobal #ChristianLeadership #Mission #Regeneration #BillJob #MarkPolet

July 29, 202628 min

How to Work With God Without Becoming Overwhelmed

How can busy entrepreneurs and leaders make space for people, their responsibilities—and God—without becoming overwhelmed?In this episode, Gea Gort continues her conversation with entrepreneur Bill Job about working with God rather than carrying every responsibility alone. Bill shares how he seeks God’s guidance not only about what to do, but also how to do it.Drawing from the example of Jesus, they explore what it means to do what should be done—without trying to do everything that could be done. They discuss intuition, daily decisions, other people’s expectations, joy in ordinary tasks, and the importance of investing in our relationship with God through worship.Bill also speaks honestly about setbacks, spiritual battles and seasons when a business does not seem to flourish. He closes with an encouraging update about a vertical farming project in China that appeared to have failed—but is now unexpectedly gaining new momentum.A practical and honest conversation for entrepreneurs and professionals who want to experience greater freedom, joy and dependence on God in their everyday work.Would you like to integrate your faith more deeply with your business? Gea and Bill also facilitate the ten-week online training Kingdom Mindsets for Business—a hands-on journey for businesspeople from around the world >> www.bammoves.comSubscribe to Kingdom Keys for Business, Life & Work for a new episode every two weeks.

July 15, 202628 min

God's Business Metric Isn't Profit—It's People | Bill Job

What if the most important business metric isn't profit—but people?After returning to China recently, Bill Job experienced a profound shift in how he sees leadership. Instead of focusing primarily on financial performance, God reminded him that He is interested first and foremost in people.In this deeply practical conversation, Bill shares how God led him back into active leadership of his manufacturing company, where he began learning the names and stories of more than 70 employees. Rather than measuring success only by financial results, Bill explores what it means to steward a business that belongs to God and to create eternal value in the workplace.This episode is full of practical insights for business leaders, entrepreneurs, managers, and anyone who wants to integrate faith into everyday work.In this episode you'll discover:Why Bill returned to lead his company in ChinaWhat it means when God is the true Owner of your businessWhy people—not profit—are God's primary metricThe surprising power of learning employees' namesHow God's presence changes workplace leadershipCreating eternal value through ordinary businessPractical ways to "see" people as God sees themIf this conversation encouraged you, please like the video, subscribe to the channel, and share it with someone who wants to integrate faith and work.👉 Learn more about the 10-week training Kingdom Mindsets for Business: https://bammoves.comChapters00:00 Introduction01:15 Why Bill's joy meter was a 10 after returning to China03:20 Returning to lead the company again06:00 What if God owns the business?10:15 God's business metric: people before profit15:30 "I want to be among the people"18:45 Learning the names of 70 employees22:30 The power of making people feel seen27:00 Practical examples from the factory floor33:00 Leading with God's presence instead of pressure38:00 Does this require great management?42:30 Creating eternal value through business46:00 Final encouragement for business leaders#BusinessAsMission #FaithAndWork #KingdomBusiness #ChristianLeadership #KingdomEntrepreneur #Leadership #BusinessLeadership #WorkplaceMinistry #Entrepreneurship #BillJob #KingdomMindsets #BusinessForGod #ChristianBusiness #PurposeDrivenBusiness #BAMMoves

July 1, 202631 min

Business as Worship: A Blueprint for City Transformation

What if business could become an act of worship—and a catalyst for transforming an entire city?In this inspiring conversation, Paul Unsworth shares the bigger vision that emerged from Kahaila, the coffee shop and social enterprise movement he started in the heart of East London. Drawing from the rich history of London’s ancient guilds and "Worshipful Companies," Paul explores how business leaders, churches, and communities can work together to address social challenges, create opportunities, and seek the flourishing of their cities.Together with Bill Job and Gea Gort, Paul reflects on God's heart for cities, the role of business in social transformation, and why worship is far more than something we do on Sundays. What if your company, organization, or daily work became an expression of worship to God?This conversation will challenge and inspire entrepreneurs, church leaders, and anyone who longs to see faith make a tangible impact in society.The next cohort Kingdom Mindsets for Business starts Wednesday September 23rd. You are invited to join this 10-week online program, which includes six biweekly sessions with Bill and Gea. Due to the smaller group setting, space is limited. Timeline00:00 Introduction and recap of Kahaila's story01:28 Church for the unchurched: coffee shops, bakeries, and social impact02:46 From a local project to a vision for transforming London03:41 Isaiah 61 and God's heart for cities06:04 Discovering God's call to a specific place07:15 London's challenges after COVID: isolation, stress, and mental health08:39 Business as a response to social injustice10:03 The surprising Christian roots of London's Worshipful Companies12:06 Business as worship and social transformation14:01 The vision for modern "Worshipping Companies"15:03 Returning to ancient blueprints for city transformation17:01 Worship in the workplace: Bill Job's experience19:09 How churches can release entrepreneurs into their calling22:05 What does a Kingdom business look like?23:36 The power of collaboration for city-wide impact24:58 Can 10% of business owners transform a city?28:04 Giving God your "yes" like Joshua and Caleb29:14 Paul's prayer for business leaders and entrepreneursIf this conversation encouraged you, please like, subscribe, and share it with someone who is passionate about faith, business, and transforming communities.

June 17, 202632 min

What If Church Looked More Like a Coffee Shop?

What happens when a church starts looking more like a coffee shop than a Sunday service?In this episode of Kingdom Keys for Business, Life and Work, Gea Gort and Bill Job talk with Paul Unsworth, founder of Kahaila, a thriving café and community in East London that has become a powerful example of Business as Mission in action.As a Baptist pastor, Paul became convinced that many people would never walk into a church building—but they would walk into a coffee shop. That conviction led him to create a space where people could belong before they believed, where faith could be discovered through relationships, hospitality, and practical love.What started as a café on Brick Lane grew into initiatives helping women leave sex work, supporting survivors of human trafficking, creating employment opportunities, and launching new businesses that continue to transform lives.Paul also shares honestly about the challenges: growing too fast, navigating organizational tensions, surviving COVID, and learning to trust God's voice through seasons of pruning and uncertainty.This conversation is a powerful encouragement for anyone sensing God's invitation to step out in faith, even when they feel unqualified. Paul: "My main gift isn't entrepreneurship. My main gift is faith." The next cohort Kingdom Mindsets for Business starts Wednesday September 23rd. You are invited to join this 10-week online program, which includes six biweekly sessions with Bill and Gea. Due to the smaller group setting, space is limited. In this episode:Why Paul skipped church to explore London's streetsCreating belonging before beliefStarting a café as a form of churchHow business became a platform for missionSupporting women leaving sex work and survivors of traffickingLessons from rapid growth and painful pruningHearing God's voice in difficult seasonsWhy faith matters more than expertiseHow God provides what we need when we step out in obedience#BusinessAsMission #BAM #KingdomBusiness #FaithAtWork #Kahaila #PaulUnsworth #BillJob #GeaGort #KingdomKeys

June 3, 202630 min

What If You Heard God Wrong? | Bill Job

What happens when you think you heard God clearly… but life turns out completely different?In this honest and deeply personal conversation, host Gea Gort sits down again with Bill Job to talk about disappointment, closed doors, wrong assumptions, and learning to trust God beyond outcomes. Together they explore what it means to live with God instead of merely doing things for Him.Bill shares stories of missing direction, unexpected detours, surrender, desires, identity, and the surprising freedom that comes from relationship over performance. From airplanes and mission life to unanswered expectations and spiritual growth, this episode is full of vulnerable reflections and practical wisdom for anyone trying to discern God’s voice in everyday life.Timeline00:00 – Introduction00:20 – What if you thought God spoke… but things turned out differently?01:16 – Bill shares how often he “misses it” and learning to recover quickly02:47 – Fear of making wrong decisions and learning to trust God04:46 – Surrender, obedience, and the adventure of following Jesus06:26 – “Slave” language, identity, and God’s character07:47 – Does following God mean losing yourself?09:01 – Airplanes, desires, and how God gives gifts12:33 – Sacrifice, suffering, and religious thinking14:03 – Dying to self versus living resurrected life18:17 – Still learning after decades of walking with God19:24 – The oil drilling story: when the real “oil” was people21:04 – Closed doors, disappointment, and healing deeper issues24:05 – Ministry success versus relationship with God26:28 – From performance and goals to deeper intimacy28:01 – Spiritual warfare and opposition29:21 – Final reflections and looking ahead to future conversationsThis conversation doesn’t offer simple formulas or “five steps to success” — but it does invite you into a more relational, honest, and freeing walk with God.#KingdomKeys #BillJob #HearingGod #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndWork #BusinessAsMission #DiscerningGodsVoice #ChristianLife #SpiritualGrowth #GeaGort

May 20, 202628 min

What if the Church is suffering from “Spiritual ALS”?

In this thought-provoking episode, Bill Job explores a powerful metaphor: just as ALS disconnects the brain from the body, many believers live disconnected from the Head — Jesus Himself.Bill shares why hearing God’s voice is not reserved for a spiritual elite, but is meant to be a normal part of everyday life. From practical stories about daily decisions to deeper reflections on identity, shame, joy, and intimacy with God, this conversation challenges religious mindsets and invites listeners into a more relational walk with Jesus.Together, Bill and Gea discuss:What “Spiritual ALS” means for the ChurchWhy many believers struggle to hear God’s voiceThe difference between conviction and condemnationHow church culture and shame can block intimacy with GodLearning to recognize God’s “accent”Living with joy in ordinary daily lifeWhy following Jesus should feel more relational than religiousThis episode is both deeply practical and spiritually refreshing — especially for anyone longing to experience a closer, more natural relationship with God.📌 In the next episode, Bill will discuss what happens when we think we heard God… but things turn out differently than expected.👉 Subscribe for more conversations on hearing God, Kingdom living, business, life, and faith.#HearingGod #KingdomLiving #ChristianPodcast #BillJob #FaithAndWork #IntimacyWithGod #SpiritualGrowth #KingdomKeys

May 6, 202626 min

More Than Food: Why Kids Need Play to Thrive

What if play isn’t a luxury—but a key to a child’s future?In this episode, Bill Job and I sit down with Ferdi van den Bergh to explore a different side of his journey—far beyond business in the Netherlands. This time, we dive into his heart for children in Uganda and the story behind Tjeko, a growing social enterprise creating spaces where kids can simply be kids.Ferdi shares how a simple moment—watching children peeking through a fence at others playing—sparked a vision:What if every child had access to joy, creativity, and play?From that moment, Tjeko was born. What started as a personal desire to create something for his own daughter has grown into a mission reaching thousands of children—combining business and ministry in a sustainable way.This conversation is about more than playgrounds. It’s about:Seeing the gold in people. Building something that is both social and profitableChoosing joy—even in difficult seasonsAnd discovering how God can use your natural talents for a bigger purpose💡 Key takeaway: You don’t have to separate business and mission. Sometimes, the most powerful impact starts with simply noticing what’s missing—and responding.🔔 Subscribe for more conversations on faith, business, and impact.

April 22, 202631 min

The Gold in Your Team | Ferdi van den Bergh

What if the real “gold” in your business isn’t your strategy… but your people?In this episode, we sit down with Ferdi van den Bergh to explore a powerful shift in leadership: from managing performance to discovering hidden value in the people around you.Ferdi shares insights from his upcoming book 'Goud in Handen' (Gold in Hands) and his work with businesses across the Netherlands. Together, with Bill Job, Gea Gort, we unpack what it really means to “see” people—not just for what they do, but for who they are and what they carry.This conversation goes beyond theory. It’s about real businesses, real pressure, and the tension between profit and people—and how both actually belong together.🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode: Why your employees are the real “gold” in your organizationHow to recognize hidden potential in your teamThe role of vision in unlocking people’s valueWhy timing and patience matter in leadershipThe balance between business results and caring for peopleA simple but powerful practice to start seeing people differently💡 One takeaway to remember: Take two minutes and ask yourself: “When did someone truly see me—and what did that unlock?” Now go and do that for someone else.📘 Ferdi’s book 'Goud in Handen' (Gold in Hands) launches during a symposium Gold Within, June 23rd in the Netherlands, for info see https://goud-in-handen.nl/  If this episode resonates, don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share it with someone who leads others—at work, at home, or anywhere in between.

April 8, 202635 min

How to Hear God in Business | With Jonathan Brake & Bill Job

What happens when business stops being just about profit and starts becoming a place of discipleship, pastoral care, and listening to God?In this second conversation with Jonathan Brake, we go deeper into what it means to build a disciple-making business. Jonathan shares from his work coaching business owners in the United States, helping leaders create healthy cultures that start with their own formation before function.Together, we explore how hearing God’s voice can shape leadership, coaching, company culture, and the way we value people in the workplace. This conversation is full of practical wisdom for business owners, leaders, and anyone who wants to follow Jesus more closely in everyday work.We talk about:why healthy businesses start with healthy leadershow Jonathan coaches business owners by first listening to their storythe role of listening prayer in leadership and strategyhow God speaks in the middle of business decisionswhy employees are not just resources, but people with eternal valuewhat it means to pastor and disciple people in the workplacehow abiding in God changes the way we leadThis episode is an encouragement for anyone who wants to move from living for God to living with Him — also in business.#JonathanBrake #DiscipleMakingBusiness #FaithAndWork #ChristianLeadership #KingdomBusiness #HearingGod #BusinessAsMission #WorkplaceMinistry #LeadershipCoaching #BAM

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