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Aug 2026

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Welcome to the Just Covered podcast series, where financial planners, mortgage advisers, and protection advisers come together for insightful discussions on the latest topics in the financial services industry. Join us for short and engaging conversations designed specifically for professionals like you. We'll be exploring current trends and pressing issues that impact your work and provide valuable insights to keep you up-to-date in the ever-evolving landscape. So, grab a cuppa, sit back, and tune in for industry knowledge and inspiration. Let's dive into the world of financial services together!

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August 19, 202611 min

Hazel Johnston | Parenthood, protection and a year of change

In this episode of Just Covered, Wayne catches up with Hazel Johnston, returning to the podcast after a year of maternity leave. Hazel reflects on how becoming a parent has reshaped her perspective on advice, sharpened her focus, and deepened her commitment to championing women, and new parents of all genders, in the industry. In this episode, Hazel covers: Why coming back to a high-pressure role after having a baby made her more focused and efficient, not less. Why championing female advisers, and giving new parents more grace, matters to the industry as a whole. How her team is upskilling on protection to give advisers one trusted source of expertise across pensions, annuities and protection. With honesty and energy, it's clear Hazel is bringing fresh perspective back to the advice conversation and gearing up for a big year of change ahead. Listen now! L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

August 5, 202630 min

Ed Durell | Building the best – not the biggest – referral-based protection business

In this episode of Just Covered, Wayne and Clodagh catch up with Edward Durell, Managing Director of Cover Direct. Cover Direct specialises in advised personal and business protection as well as group risk and private medical insurance, as a predominantly referral-based model. He shares his career journey, from chartered accountancy and digital marketing, to founding Cover Direct. Their referral service is built for busy advisers, for those who aren’t protection experts, those who don’t have a large panel, or who have complex cases to handle. “We’re not trying to be the biggest, but trying to be the best,” he says. In this episode, Ed covers: Why Cover Direct works on a booked call-basis with clients, and why he believes an effective, familiar referral journey can make or break a sale. Protection as a fundamental part of financial resilience. How Ed’s hero moment happened early on in Cover Direct’s history. With Ed’s strategies and business ethos, it’s clear he’s building a business based on transparency and respect. L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

July 8, 202637 min

Jo Pocklington | A transactional adviser, or a caring adviser? Why protection belief is the strongest tool in the kit

Jo Pocklington, Director of Strategic Growth at Alexander Hall, talks to Wayne and Clodagh about the importance helping advisers embed protection into their mortgage conversations. After transforming the front-end customer journey for mortgages protection at Alexander Hall, Jo shares how building a compelling process can help get the protection conversation started early and help convince customers of its value. This episode also covers: Showcasing adviser belief and the power of ‘why’ through real-life case studies. How active listening and customer journey analysis can reveal why customers object and ensure advisers continuously improve. The need for better customer education on protection as early as the school years. This episode will underscore the crucial role advisers have in replaying the value and need of protection to customers, and the most effective ways to do it. Listen now! L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

June 10, 202640 min

Ash Borland | Cracking advice: Broker business coach on ripping up the rulebook

What if the way you’ve always advised isn’t the best way to achieve great outcomes for your customers? Ash Borland is a mortgage broker business coach disrupting the traditional financial advice model. A former mortgage broker, Ash turned to teaching brokers to attract and retain clients using a process that’s based on behavioural economics, neuromarketing and social selling. The result? His clients see six-figure turnovers and better outcomes for their customers. In this episode, Ash talks to Wayne and Clodagh about how he went from working as a broker in a well-stocked pool to becoming an independent coach figuring out how to generate business leads. He shares some of the processes he teaches to financial advisers, including his pre-frame, frame and reframe approach. Also in this episode: The financial resilience check Ash believes every adviser should do. The ‘showing, not selling’ mindset of protection conversations, and how to do it. Ash’s career challenges, regrets and hero moment. Listen now to be inspired by Ash’s enthusiasm and proven successes that could inspire a new approach to financial advice. Listen now L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

May 27, 20261 hr 0 min

The art of advice: Elizabeth Bird and Andrew Teeman on high-net worth planning and later life lending

Wayne and Clodagh are joined by Elizabeth Bird of Chronos Wealth and Andrew Teeman of Mortgage Advice Bureau, to talk all things high-net worth financial planning and later life lending. Elizabeth and Andrew have a shared history – both work in finance, and both have been through divorce. Their careers have brought them together both personally and professionally, and the pair work together to add value to their clients’ financial planning. Both say their understanding of divorce allows them to have great empathy of many of their clients’ situations, impacting how they give their advice and run their businesses. “It’s an art,” says Elizabeth. In this episode, Elizabeth and Andrew highlight the common difficulties facing high-net worth clients, the upcoming changes to inheritance tax, and the need for careful, early planning. They also talk about the shifting realities of retirement: “It’s never been harder to get older and retire,” says Andrew. Elizabeth and Andrew also talk about: How good financial planning can bring a client’s financial future to life, showing them the ‘why’ of advice. The need for early financial education for children – and girls in particular – and the positive impact that can have on financial priorities and how we manage our money as adults. The power of telling clients you need to refer. “The best person isn’t always me,” says Elizabeth. Elizabeth and Andrew prove that good advice is about understanding both people and money. Listen now L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

May 20, 20267 min

Clodagh Morris | A New Chapter for Just Covered

Big news! The Just Covered Podcast is adding a new voice you won’t want to miss. Say hello to Clodagh Morris, National Sales Director - here to deliver expert insights, real‑world stories, and conversations that make a difference. Stay tuned for your next must‑listen episode. L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

May 13, 202637 min

Nathan Wootton | Breaking down the walls on giving clarity to customers, and confidence to advisers

Nathan Wootton’s passion for a watertight customer journey fizzes in this episode of Just Covered. As Operations Director of Waddle, Nathan spends most of his time educating his advisers on how to educate their customers. And it’s not about the product – that doesn’t come for a long, long time, he says. Instead, making sure advisers can be the architects of effective conversations, without anxiety around the difficult parts, is key to building rapport, eliminating customer confusion, and gaining long-term customer trust for every part of their life journey. In this conversation, Nathan gives a glimpse into how award-winning Waddle does business – from having its own claims department, to its four-hour protection conversation with customers. Everything here is about making sure the customer knows exactly what they’re getting with their policy and beyond. Nathan also shares: The factors contributing to the protection gap and how advisers can help to close it. The importance of customer storytelling, and the rite of passage of an adviser’s first claim. The daily habit that keeps Nathan grounded and striving for constant improvement. This conversation is sure to fire you up and inspire how you think about customer connection. L&G Apply - Adviser Registration L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

April 8, 202645 min

Emma Vaughan | Protection from every angle: Never compromising on the safety net

Emma Vaughan, Managing Director of Omni Protect, brings warmth and candour to this episode of Just Covered. She talks to Wayne and Georgia about her journey through financial services, and the pivotal moment very early in her career that’s kept her steadfastly committed to protection – particularly income protection. Emma explains her role running the protection division Omni Protect, where she helps advisers with every kind of protection need. She talks about why education is still essential where many advisers still avoid the protection conversation. Plus she shares her insights on adviser mindsets and skillsets, protection opportunities and building client trust. Wayne, Georgia and Emma also discuss: The importance of sales quality and Emma’s top tips on how to ensure firms keep on top of it. Examples of how AI can drive efficiencies for advisers, and the ways in which Omni is trialling its use – without losing the human touch. The post-budget protection opportunities for advisers including tailored support for more effective protection sales. This conversation is a great reminder of how protection should underpin everything an adviser does. And Emma’s personal stories shared during this episode underscore her drive for its wider adoption. Ignite Demo - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General L&G Apply - Adviser Registration L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

March 12, 202655 min

Victoria Jefferies & Jo Coan: Celebrating International Women's Day, why authenticity and allyship are key to closing the gender gap

In this special International Women's Day episode of Just Covered, hosts Wayne and Georgia sit down with two inspirational senior leaders from L&G – Victoria Jefferies, Market Development Director, and Jo Coan, Strategic Partnerships Director. Vikki and Jo share their career journeys into financial services, from Vikki's early days in insurance sales, to Jo's "wild card" job application that led her to implementing over £1 billion in assets within her first year. They open up about the challenges they've faced as women in the workplace, including pregnancy discrimination, the pressure to return from maternity leave early and being the only woman in the room. The conversation tackles the harsh reality of financial services' 27% pay gap and explores why vulnerability has become their superpower, rather than a weakness. The discussion also explores the crucial role mentorship and male allyship can play in amplifying women’s roles in the workplace. Vikki and Jo share practical advice for young women entering the industry, and their optimistic vision for a more diverse, authentic future in financial services. This episode also covers: The importance of how diversity in financial services can bring new experiences, relatability and authenticity to the “people business”. Why "saying yes and worrying later" and "running your own race" are essential mindsets for career growth. Actionable ways men can support women in the workplace, from backing up their ideas in meetings to calling out poor behaviour and unconscious bias. CPD Academy - https://www.legalandgeneral.com/adviser/protection/knowledge-hub/cpd-academy/ L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General

January 22, 202635 min

Georgia Perkins: Our new co-host on market growth, adviser skills and the power of the life story

In this episode of Just Covered, we meet Georgia Perkins, Marketing Development Manager here at L&G and our new co-host! Last year Georgia took the gong for Woman of the Year – Intermediary Support at the 2025 COVER Women in Protection and Health Awards, so we’re in great company. She talks to Wayne about getting started in her financial services career in protection before moving into underwriting and finally, sales. With her formal education being in Literature, she talks about how this passion for storytelling underpins her work with financial advisers. Wayne and Georgia’s inaugural chat explores Georgia’s role in growing the market and looking for innovative ways to help advisers get the best outcomes for their clients. They discuss the two key themes for the Marketing Development Team in 2026 – legacy and income – and how her team is planning to upskill and equip advisers to meet upcoming market changes through these lenses. This episode also covers: The importance of building trust and relationships to encourage clients to share their life story. The work L&G is doing to give advisers the confidence to walk clients through a holistic financial plan across disciplines. The actionable content advisers can look forward to this year in the brand new on-demand Adviser Academy. Adviser Academy | Stream earlier episodes on your platform of choice | Just Covered L&G Apply - Adviser Registration Ignite - Ignite | Mortgage Technology | Legal & General