It's not all about the numbers!

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In this age of rapid technological advancement, data-driven practices have taken centre stage in the realm of finance and across business. It's not just about number-crunching anymore. It's about leveraging the potential of data for informed decision-making, employing cutting-edge technologies to revolutionise conventional processes, and maintaining flexibility to adapt to the ever-changing business landscape. From the executive suite to data analysis, we're about to delve into how these transformative forces are redefining the core of business practices. Whether you're a leader looking to ensure your strategies are data-centric or simply intrigued by the latest developments, get ready for an enlightening journey. Join Chris Argent (a reformed CFO) and Mike “I am not an accountant” Rose (a transformation translator) as we discuss the future of data-driven business! Follow Us https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherargent/ https://generationcfo.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeerose/ https://www.mikerose.co.uk/ Or email podcast@generationcfo.com #gencfo #generationcfo #podcast #inaatn Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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October 13, 202622 min

So What...? Should We Spill the Tea?

We're told great leaders should be authentic, vulnerable and transparent. But how transparent is too transparent? In this episode of So What...? , Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen explore whether more openness really does create better leaders, stronger teams and greater trust. From bosses admitting they don't have all the answers to competitors sharing information and governments opening up their data, the conversation explores what happens when we stop guarding information quite so closely. But there has to be a line... right? Because transparency doesn't mean sharing everything with everyone. So where do you draw the boundary between healthy openness and plain old oversharing? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

October 6, 202626 min

Scaling Without Selling Your Soul... with Tony Morreale

What does it actually take to get a business ready to sell? In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers , Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by award-winning finance leader Tony Morreale to unpack the reality behind PetLab Co's journey towards a majority sale. And spoiler: it wasn't all champagne and signing papers. Tony talks due diligence, late nights, working on Christmas Eve and the years of preparation required before the business even went to market. But this is also a conversation about people. From scaling businesses with limited cash to nurturing junior talent into future CFOs, Tony explains why growing a business means growing the people inside it too. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

September 29, 202622 min

So What...? Dude, Where's My Signal?

What happens when the Wi-Fi disappears? No Teams. No cloud. No maps. No card payments. And, most importantly for Joel, potentially no Duolingo streak. In this episode of So What...? , Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen explore just how dependent we've become on permanent connectivity and whether the infrastructure underneath our increasingly digital lives is actually keeping up. From patchy UK mobile coverage and businesses unable to take payments to internet blackouts and the expectation that we're always reachable, the team ask whether connectivity has quietly become critical infrastructure. And if it has, should leaders also be asking a different question? Could your people still function without it? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

September 22, 202635 min

I Feel the Need... The Need to Lead... with Michael Mills

In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers , Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Michael Mills, Global Director of Finance and Shared Services at Aramex , to talk ambition, adaptability and what it takes to keep growing as a leader. From his Top Gun -inspired RAF ambitions to leaving JLR for a new industry, culture and life in the Middle East, Michael shares why he deliberately puts himself in uncomfortable situations, how feedback changed his leadership style, and why celebrating the wins can be just as important as chasing the next 1%. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

September 15, 202623 min

So What...? Who's the Boss, You or the Bot?

AI can write the email. Analyse the documents. Brainstorm the strategy. But would you actually put it in charge? In this episode of So What...? , Chris, Mike and Joel take on the rise of the bot boss and ask what happens when AI stops being something we talk to and starts becoming something we delegate to. From agentic AI going spectacularly off-piste to the danger of leaders blindly accepting convincing AI-generated answers, the team debate how far they're willing to hand over control. Is keeping a human in the loop enough? Or does AI become significantly less useful the moment we put it on a tight leash? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

September 8, 202637 min

Leading Isn't Managing... with Veronika Von Heise-Rotenburg

What separates a manager from a leader? In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers , Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Dr Veronika von Heise-Rotenburg , CFO and Managing Director at Everphone, to explore why leadership is a skill that must be learned, not simply inherited through promotion. The conversation covers everything from mentoring and developing future leaders to the evolution of the CFO role, the impact of AI on finance and why tomorrow's finance leaders will spend less time administering the business and more time enabling it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

September 1, 202623 min

So What...? Is Everyone a Podcaster Now?

Everyone seems to have a podcast these days. But why? In this episode of So What...? , Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen turn the microphones on themselves to explore why podcasting has exploded, what keeps them coming back after almost 150 episodes, and whether the world really needs another show. The conversation goes beyond content creation, exploring trust, learning, community and why podcasts have become the modern equivalent of pub conversations. They also debate whether we've reached peak podcast, or whether the best conversations are still to come. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 25, 202637 min

From the Mailroom to Global CFO... with Ben Castle

From sorting mail and changing light bulbs to becoming Global CFO of Interbrand, Ben Castle's career definitely didn't follow the traditional finance playbook . In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers , Chris Argent and Mike Rose talk to Ben about curiosity, continuous learning and why some of the best finance careers aren't planned at all. They explore how the finance function is changing, why Ben hired a data analyst with no finance background into his team, the skills tomorrow's finance leaders will need, and why empathy might be one of the most underrated qualities in a CFO. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 18, 202619 min

So What...? Oops, We Hired Consultants Again!

Every organisation reaches the same crossroads. A major transformation is on the horizon, deadlines are slipping, and someone inevitably says: "Let's bring in the consultants." But are consultancies really solving business problems, or have they become the default answer to every challenge? In this episode of So What...? , Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen explore the consultancy model, from junior project teams and off-the-shelf methodologies to commercial incentives, repeat business and the growing reliance on external expertise. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 11, 202634 min

Leadership Isn't Always Plain Sailing... with Koula Achillea

What if your biggest competitor could actually make you a better leader? In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers , Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Koula Achillea , Finance Director at Marella Cruises (TUI), to explore the leadership lessons that emerge from crisis, collaboration and community. From navigating the hospitality industry during COVID to building trusted networks with industry "frenemies", Koula shares why humour, trust and authentic relationships are some of the most underrated leadership tools. The conversation also explores the evolving role of finance leaders and why influence now matters just as much as technical expertise. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.