It's not all about the numbers!

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In this age of rapid technological advancement, data-driven practices have taken centre stage in the realm of finance and across business. It's not just about number-crunching anymore. It's about leveraging the potential of data for informed decision-making, employing cutting-edge technologies to revolutionise conventional processes, and maintaining flexibility to adapt to the ever-changing business landscape. From the executive suite to data analysis, we're about to delve into how these transformative forces are redefining the core of business practices. Whether you're a leader looking to ensure your strategies are data-centric or simply intrigued by the latest developments, get ready for an enlightening journey. Join Chris Argent (a reformed CFO) and Mike “I am not an accountant” Rose (a transformation translator) as we discuss the future of data-driven business! Follow Us https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherargent/ https://generationcfo.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeerose/ https://www.mikerose.co.uk/ Or email podcast@generationcfo.com #gencfo #generationcfo #podcast #inaatn Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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August 11, 202634 min

Leadership Isn't Always Plain Sailing... with Koula Achillea

What if your biggest competitor could actually make you a better leader?In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Koula Achillea, Finance Director at Marella Cruises (TUI), to explore the leadership lessons that emerge from crisis, collaboration and community.From navigating the hospitality industry during COVID to building trusted networks with industry "frenemies", Koula shares why humour, trust and authentic relationships are some of the most underrated leadership tools. The conversation also explores the evolving role of finance leaders and why influence now matters just as much as technical expertise. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

August 4, 202622 min

So What... Is Coaching Becoming Corporate Therapy?

Executive coaching has become a multi-billion-pound industry. But is it solving leadership challenges, or simply filling the gap left by poor management?In this episode of So What...?, Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen unpack the difference between coaching and mentoring, question why coaching has become such a dominant part of corporate life, and explore whether organisations have lost the ability to develop people from within.From sports coaching to executive coaching, they debate when coaching genuinely adds value, when mentoring is the better option, and why businesses may be treating symptoms instead of solving leadership problems. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 28, 202648 min

Leading Through Risk with LaToya Lacey

What does real leadership look like?In this episode of It's Not All About the Numbers, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by LaToya Lacey, VP Enterprise Risk Management & Insurance at The Estée Lauder Companies.From growing up as the youngest of six siblings to leading enterprise risk for one of the world's biggest brands, Latoya shares the experiences that shaped her leadership philosophy.The conversation explores empowerment, diversity, enterprise risk, psychological safety and why the best leaders don't control people, they give them confidence to succeed. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 21, 202616 min

So What...? Who's the Smartest Person in the Room?

When should you bring in an external expert, and when are you just paying for a logo?In this episode of So What...?, Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen debate the role of consultants, contractors and independent advisors in modern business. They explore why experience matters, where big consultancies fall short, and why trusted independent experts can often deliver more value than larger firms. Along the way, they discuss relationships, culture and what organisations should really be paying for when they bring in outside support. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 14, 202636 min

Why ESG Isn't Dead with Navin Rauniar

In this episode of It's Not All About The Numbers, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by sustainability expert and board advisor Navin Rauniar to unpack one of the biggest challenges facing business today. They explore the cost of the green transition, regulation, ESG, climate resilience and why sustainability must make commercial sense if organisations are going to embrace it. The conversation also examines leadership, independent thinking and the role finance leaders play in balancing profit, purpose and long-term growth. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

July 7, 202617 min

So What...? Are Industry Awards Worth It?

In this episode of So What...?, Chris Argent, Mike Rose and Joel Johansen debate the true value of industry awards. From recognition and motivation to recruitment, team culture and leadership, they explore why celebrating success can have a much bigger impact than simply collecting trophies. They also discuss the application process, what makes a meaningful awards programme, and why recognition matters more than ever in today's workplace.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 30, 202631 min

Behind the GENCFO Awards with Kira Cluer

What makes an awards ceremony truly memorable? In this special episode, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by GENCFO Senior Events Manager Kira Cluer to go behind the scenes of the GENCFO Awards. Together, they explore what it takes to create an event that champions finance's changemakers, why community matters more than trophies, and how live experiences can bring people together in ways that virtual connections never could. They also discuss leadership, career growth, learning from failure and the importance of slowing down in an increasingly fast-paced world.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 23, 202621 min

So What...? Has LinkedIn Become Just Another Social Network? With Joel Johansson

Is LinkedIn still a professional networking platform, or has it become just another social media channel?In this episode of So What...?, Chris Argent, Mike Rose, and Joel Johansson explore how LinkedIn has evolved from an online CV repository into one of the most influential platforms in business. They discuss personal branding, networking, recruitment, algorithms, content creation, and whether LinkedIn's growing focus on engagement is changing the way professionals build careers.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 16, 202633 min

Why AI Still Needs Human Judgment with Galina Barengo

AI can build apps, write content, and automate workflows in seconds. But can it replace human judgment?In this episode, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by Galina Barengo, Co-Founder of Ledgerdary, to cut through the AI hype. From vibe coding and automation to leadership, burnout, and startup life, they explore where AI adds real value, where it falls short, and why human judgment remains irreplaceable. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

June 9, 202636 min

So What...? AI Won't Fix a Broken Process

Everyone is talking about AI, but are organisations focusing on the wrong problem? In this episode of So What?, Chris Argent and Mike Rose explore why adaptability may be a far more important capability than technology itself. From broken processes and failed transformation programmes to change management, curiosity and leadership, they unpack why simply layering AI onto existing ways of working rarely delivers the results organisations expect.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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